Posted: 3/8/2012 12:27:35 PM EDT
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tell me why would you pick a glock over a sig?
Lets say this gun is for carry and we will go with a p229 or a g23. The would be for carry. I am not trying to choose I am asking which and why you would choose one over the other. Or maybe you feel 40 cal is not a good choice for self defense. |
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I recently bought a 23 over a Sig.
Reasons were: Cost, size, weight, ease of use and reputation for reliability. The Sig competes when it comes to reliability, but not on the others. Wonderful firearms, I would like to own one and probably will, but the Glock had too much going for it. |
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I guess the only thing that bugs me about sig is the slide release keeps getting in the way of my thumb.
I am so used to carrying a 1911 or a glock that. I can keep my thumb on the thumb safety or close to the slide on a glock. If you do that with sigs I hit hit the slide release preventing it from locking baack on the las rd. |
| Wildpower, I had that exact same problem when I first started shooting my P226. I have recently sold my P226 for a Glock 23. There was nothing at all wrong with the Sig, it is a great gun, always shot flawlessly. I just found myself more accurate with the striker fired pistols. I sold the P226 and am sticking with my M&P and Glock. |
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Wildpower, I had that exact same problem when I first started shooting my P226. I have recently sold my P226 for a Glock 23. There was nothing at all wrong with the Sig, it is a great gun, always shot flawlessly. I just found myself more accurate with the striker fired pistols. I sold the P226 and am sticking with my M&P and Glock. How do you like the 23 ? I am really starting to like the way it shoots it's started to feel like the perfect SIZE if you know what I mean? It get better every range trip mine is a gen 4. 950 rds flawless so far. It's hard to get used to a 40 cal after growing up and living with 45 on my hip for 40 yrs though. |
| Generally, Sigs cost more, weigh more, and are larger for the same magazine capacity in the same calibers. I also don't like DA/SA or any of Sigs other triggers save for the SA 226 variants that cost as much as an Ed Brown 1911. Finally, I'm left handed, and most Sigs have terrible ergonomics for lefties. |
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Don't care for DA/SA shooting
and I don't care for the higher bore axis on SIgs. Had a 239 in 9mm and it was a nice gun but the recoil was more than it needed to be just simply because of how far they put the fire control above your hand. Design flaw if you ask me. They are nice guns but with so many other choices out there I don't have to settle with things I don't like. |
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A reason not touched apoun yet too that favors the glock for ccw is the aftermarket support is so much more vast.
EVERYONE makes and STOCKS holsters and related carry gear for glocks. If someone makes a product that's worth having they make it for the small framed glock first. |
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tell me why would you pick a glock over a sig? Lets say this gun is for carry and we will go with a p229 or a g23. The would be for carry. I am not trying to choose I am asking which and why you would choose one over the other. Or maybe you feel 40 cal is not a good choice for self defense. The glock is thinner, lighter, costs less, same trigger pull that is much nicer than a Sig DAK system, easier to work on, more aftermarket parts available, and better resale value. |
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For me clearly the Glock because
1. I hate the sig trigger compared to the consistent Glock - mushy reset on the sig also 2. The gun feels like it sits too high in the hand - makes recoil worse 3. Too heavy - very top heavy to me 4. Not easy to work on compared to the Glock. Simplicity and ease of smithing 5. Too expensive 6. Offers no advantages over the Glock |
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tell me why would you pick a glock over a sig? Lets say this gun is for carry and we will go with a p229 or a g23. The would be for carry. I am not trying to choose I am asking which and why you would choose one over the other. Or maybe you feel 40 cal is not a good choice for self defense. I have a G19 and 229 DAK in 9MM. Both are great for carry. The 229 is heavier and thicker but sure is a sweet shooting, accurate, dependable weapon. The 19 fits great in a Crossbreed holster as it is narrower. I don't fee the difference in weight since getting a quality belt from The Beltman, it makes all the difference. As for the .40, that's a personal preference. I find the 9mm completely sufficient and prefer the extra capacity. If I had to choose one it would be the 19 for it's simplicity, reliability, cost etc. |
| First round out of the holster is what did it for me. My department uses Glock 17's and I would always rag our Range Master about them. I thought my SIG's were hands down better. Then I started really practicing with the SIG 226. My first shot was always low and left. The DA trigger pull sucks. I had the newer Blackwater with the SRT. SA was frickin' awesome, but when it really could matter... the Glock wins out. Now a SIG in DAK could compete, but I don't know anyone that has one to try. |
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For me clearly the Glock because 1. I hate the sig trigger compared to the consistant Glock - mushy reset on the sig also 2. The gun feels like it sits too high in the hand - makes recoil worse 3. Too heavy - very top heavy to me 4. Not easy to work on compared to the Glock. Simplicity and ease of smithing 5. Too expensive 6. Offers no advantages over the Glock All these especialy #1 and mags for the Glock are easy to find and cheap. |
I do not like Sig handguns, and the fanboyism for them makes me ill 
I prefer the striker fired handguns because every single shot is exactly the same, instead of the DA/SA I prefer a Poly frame for the weight savings, without the poor wear and tear characteristics of a aluminum frame handgun For the money you would pay for one Sig you could by two Glock's or two M&P's, which IMHO are superior for EDC (Full Disclaimer) I used to be a Sig fan years ago and owned a German P226 which I put a LOT of rounds through. Once I picked up my first Glock (G17) I quickly realized that the Sig not only cost a hell of a lot more, but offers absolutely NOTHING over the Glock, in fact the Glock has several advantages over the Sig as listed above. I quickly sold the P226 and bought a Glock 19 that took the Sig's place as my "go to" handgun I now have a G21SF for night stand duty, and two 19's for EDC and a 17 for everything in between |
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The Glock trigger is much better. Same pull every shot. It doesn't "feel" good, but it works much better. You have to shoot it, and shoot it quickly to appreciate it. Dryfires at the gun shop counter do not reveal the utter utility of the Glock trigger. This is the "eureka moment" that a lot of Glock owners refer to.
ANYONE can work on any part of a Glock. Parts are all over the place. The aftermarket is HUGE. Race gun, bullseye gun, home defense, combat pistol? All of them can be done with your basic full-size Glock, a catalog, and a credit card. Mags are cheap and plentiful Sig is essentially humping an ancient design to death. Their old guns were groundbreaking and revolutionary back in the 70's and 80's. Their barrel lockup on their old stamped slide guns was really amazing. Today? Not so much. Today Sig "innovates" by adding rails, diamond plate, and other useless finishes to their blocky guns. They are the complete opposite of the no-nonsense hard use guns that they had established their brand upon. Cost isn't relevant. If Glocks cost as much as Sigs, or more than Sigs, I would still pick them. |
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IMO, the only Sig that can compete with the Glocks is the SP2022. They cost the same or even a bit less, have great triggers right out of the box, both SA and DA, are very accurate, and easy to train into.
Magazines are more expensive and harder to find. Working on them requires a different tool set than even the other Sigs (ie: sight tool, for example). If the Glock ergos don't work for you, then the SigPro may, though they still have the higher bore center and this is a deal breaker for many. The rest of the Sig line is very heavy by comparison. Every Glock I own or have ever shot is far softer in the recoil deptartment, even with the added weight of the Sig. No, I don't hate Sigs, I own several, but I am not as inclined to reach for one as I walk out the door as I am to grab my Glock and tuck it into my waistband. In the final analysis, Glocks still win out, but the SigPro narrows the margin a bit. |
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I had a sig, and sold it to get a glock. The sig was a W German p226, the Glock is a g19.
Here is my assessment. In SA, the sig had a better trigger by far; it was a good weight and crisp. However, to carry the sig it had to be in DA with the hammer down. I could never get the DA/SA transition down like I wanted too. The sig was heavier, and as people mentioned, had more expensive mags. I took the sig on a canoeing trip with me and it surface rusted pretty bad, which really bummed me out. The sights were better than on the glock. The glock trigger is not as nice, but is consistent. The finish on the glock is durable. For the same capacity the glock is considerably more compact. If i had the money for both, I would have kept both. I liked the sig and was sad to see it go. However, I needed an all around pistol that I could use for carry, range time, and backpacking/canoeing.. and I'm more happy with the glock in that role. |
| have owned both still have glocks sigs are gone. I feel in mechanical accuracy the sigs actually have the slight advantage but I much prefer the consistent trigger action of the glock plus cost for a glock and all support items -mags etc is much cheaper. Reliability in my experience was pretty equal. |
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I actually "like" sigs more for the feel and good looks. But I don`t own any, I have 4 Glocks. My reasons are.. They handle neglect and abuse probably better than any other. Parts are everywhere and cheap, and more importantly, very easy and fast to change/install. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Glock beats SIG in every technical category. It's not even debatable. Your statement got my curiosity up. I'm not arguing with you I would be very interested if would elaborate "Glock beats SIG in every technical category" Thanks Size Weight Bore axis Capacity Capacity to size ratio Durability Reliability Corrosion resistance Practical accuracy (in standard service models) Ease of manufacture Ease of major repair Ease of maintenance Factory and aftermarket parts support as well as availability Aftermarket accessorizes Cost Customer service Etc. Glock meets, or greatly exceeds SIG in every one of these categories. |
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Glock beats SIG in every technical category. It's not even debatable. Your statement got my curiosity up. I'm not arguing with you I would be very interested if would elaborate "Glock beats SIG in every technical category" Thanks Size Weight Bore axis Capacity Capacity to size ratio Durability Reliability Corrosion resistance Practical accuracy (in standard service models) Ease of manufacture Ease of major repair Ease of maintenance Factory and aftermarket parts support as well as availability Aftermarket accessorizes Cost Customer service Etc. Glock meets, or greatly exceeds SIG in every one of these categories. You know I find it very hard to disagree with you so I'm not even going to try. I have been carrying sigs "stainless steel sig only" for a long time 3lbs as weel as 1911's which are 3lbs. I am now practicing with a g23 gen 4 2lbs loaded and is fast and accurate. what is your opinion on a g23 for a carry weapon? |
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Several years ago I carried a P229R DAK 9mm. While it was a great pistol, it was a tad heavy/bulky for everyday carry, for me anyways. The next year I switched to a G19 RTF2 and loved it. I carried it almost every time I was out. The next year I switched again to my current carry G26 EXO and love it even more.
For me, the size and weight was the deciding factor. The G26 is the perfect carry weapon for me and my build and clothing choices. I still love my Sigs though, and would prefer to carry a P229 over my issued G22 for duty purposes. |
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You know I find it very hard to disagree with you so I'm not even going to try. I have been carrying sigs "stainless steel sig only" for a long time 3lbs as weel as 1911's which are 3lbs. I am now practicing with a g23 gen 4 2lbs loaded and is fast and accurate. what is your opinion on a g23 for a carry weapon? The G23 is a great carry gun in my opinion. For many folks, it is the right size compromise between the full size 22 and compact 27 in terms of capacity, ease of carry/concealability, and ease of shooting with the slightly larger grip. I personally like the .40 round terminal ballistic performance as well compared to the other choices out there. The reliability, durability, and performance is consistently good as with all Glocks. |
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what is your opinion on a g23 for a carry weapon? I really like SIGs and have a lot of respect for them. But I would not argue with GLOCKREAPER's post either. As a carry/defensive weapon, IMO, it gets no better than Glock. I carry a G23 every day. I used to be a big 9mm guy and would certainly have said that the G19 was the best carry gun in the world (arguably, it is  ). I'm issued .40 now, so that's what I carry, and shoot, and I've grown to like it. You might even be able to make the argument that 14 rounds of .40 could be better than 16 round of 9mm in the same package. But, that would be a caliber debate, and I'm not into that. It's just an argument that could be made.
I also have a G22 and a G27. The G22 basically sits at bedside with a light attached. I would have no reason to carry my G22 when I could carry my G23. The G27 has the benefit of being able to be ankle carried. There are times when this is the carry option I want to utilize. Otherwise, if I'm carrying on my hip, IWB or OWB, I don't see any need to carry my G27 when I could carry my G23. Get a G23. Seriously. |
| Sig is no longer a quality top tier brand. They cut corners and it shows. All they make these days is pure junk and I say this as a huge Sig fan hence my user name. Old Sigs were quality pistols.....no longer. I'd put Taurus and High Point over Sig in terms of quality and I'm not kidding. |