Posted: 2/7/2012 5:17:32 PM EDT
| Just picked up a Gen 4 G22 for duty use. After several days of training, I am not fond of the mag release. I'd like to get a hold of the FBI mag release. Does anybody have a line on finding a couple? |
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Not available eh? http://www.glockmeister.com/Mag-Catch-Factory-Extended-Gen-4-For-9mm-40SW-357SIG/productinfo/G8794/ IF you're looking for a generation 3 catch then the Vickers is where its at. Exactly, Glockmeister is the only retailer I know of who sells the Gen4 factory extended, it's the same magazine catch used in the Gen4 G21. Here it is turned into a clickable link: http://www.glockmeister.com/Mag-Catch-Factory-Extended-Gen-4-For-9mm-40SW-357SIG/productinfo/G8794/ The Gen3 FBI magazine catch is essentially a copy of the Vickers magazine catch. |
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Quoted: it IS the FBI catch. The FBI catch is a medium GEN3 catch sold only to the FBI. Jul 16, 2010 9:27 am PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE NOTICE CAREFULLY AS IT CONSTITUTES THE ONLY NOTICE THAT WILL BE ISSUED. This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items prepared in accordance with the format in Subpart 12.6, as supplemented with additional information in this request. This announcement constitutes the only solicitation. This procurement is being conducted under Federal Acquisition Regulation Parts 12 and 13. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is issuing this acquisition as a Request for Quote (RFQ) under solicitation number RFQ 0200727. The NAICS Code for this requirement is 332994-Small Arms Manufacturing: The size standard for this requirement is 1000 employees. This requirement is a 100% small business set-aside. This requirement is for brand name only. The resultant contract will be a firm-fixed price contract. The requirement is for the following: Quantity Description 2,963 each Glock Model 23 pistol, with smooth trigger, extended slide stop, medium magazine catch, tritium sights, 6 magazines Shipping Condition: Shipping must be free on board (FOB) destination CONUS. Quotes shall include all shipping costs to Quantico, VA. Equipment Condition: New Equipment ONLY; No remanufactured or "gray market" items. All items must be covered by the manufacturer's warranty. Offer Period: Bid must be good for 30 calendar days after close of this posting. Delivery must be made within 70 days or less after receipt of order (ARO). Responses shall be submitted via electronic submission to Amy Lacy at [email protected]. The due date for responses to this RFQ is on or before July 23, 2010, 10:00 am (Eastern Time). Responses must be marked as follows: "RFQ 0200727." All correspondence regarding this requirement must be submitted to Amy Lacy via email only. Quotes shall include a point of contact, contractor DUN's number and TIN number. This RFQ incorporates the provisions and clauses that are in effect through Federal Acquisition Regulation Circular 2005-44. The provision at FAR Clause 52.212-1, Instructions to Offerors (Nov 2007) and addendum are incorporated into this solicitation. Addendum to 52.212-1, Modify: (b) Submission of offer(s) is to read as follows: "Submit offers electronically to [email protected]. Provision 52.212-2, Evaluation - Commercial Items is incorporated by reference. This requirement will be awarded to the low price technically acceptable (LPTA) offeror. Brand Name Justification: Glock weapons are the standard issued service pistol for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Provision 52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications-Commercial Items is incorporated. Contractors may submit their online Representations and Certifications Application (ORCA) at the following government portal: http://orca.bpn.gov. Clauses 52.212-4 Contract Terms and Conditions-Commercial Items, and 52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required to Implement Statues or Executive Orders, Commercial Items, apply to this solicitation. The following additional clauses under FAR 52.212-5 are applicable: 5) 52.219-6, Notice of Total Small Business Set-Aside; 16) 52.222-3, Convict Labor; 17) 52.222-19, Child Labor; 18) 52.222-21, Prohibition of Segregated Facilities; 19) 52.222-26, Equal Opportunity; 20) 52.222-35, Equal Opportunity for Special Disabled Veterans; 21) 52.222-36, Affirmative Action for Workers with Disabilities; 22) 52.222-37, Employment Reports on Special Disabled Veterans; 23) 52.222-39, 29) 52.225-13, Restrictions on Certain Foreign Purchases; 34) Payment by Electronic Funds Transfer - Central Contractor Registration. The awardee shall be registered in the Central Contractor Registration Database. All quotes will be considered. Modification #1 See Questions/Answers below: (Q) In reference to the medium magazine catch, is this the magazine catch that the Bureau developed with Glock? (A) It is mid-way in length between a standard magazine catch and an extended magazine catch. (Q) Is there a specific format in which you would like to see this proposal? (A) The quote should contain the company name/address and POC information, DUNS #, Tax ID Number, description and/or stock numbers and pricing. If you wish to submit an SF 1449 that is accepted as well. (Q) In reference to your current solicitation for 2,963 Glock model 23 handguns, do you have the specific item number for the exact Glock handgun that you woule like to purchase? (A) The item number will be Pistol, Model: G23-.40 caliber. FBI Engineering Research Facility, FBI Academy Quantico, Virginia 22135 FBI Academy Quantico, Virginia 22135 United States |
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Glockstore has extended gen 4 mag releases. Not sure if it would be what your looking for.
Here |
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Yes...it is. It is the same one that Todd Green is using, same PN. The PICTURE on their website is different. How do i know? Well, i ordered that same item and yes, it IS the FBI catch. Are you talking about for Gen4 or Gen3? In your post above, the link is for a Gen4 catch, which is also what is pictured. Are you suggesting that if I order the Gen4 mag catch that you posted a link to above, I will be sent a Gen3 FBI mag catch? FBI does not use Gen4, so if we're talking about Gen4 mag catches here, that point is moot. Are you suggesting that you have purchased an FBI mag catch Gen3 that you own yourself? Post pics of it, man! |
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There is some massive confusion here.
The original poster asked for a generation 4 extended mag catch for a .40 caliber weapon. I linked to one. The part that i linked to was originally created at the request of the FBI as per Todd Green and several other sources. It IS an extended catch, it IS for the generation 4 guns and NOT the generation 3 pistols. The article that you linked to is for a generation 3 catch i believe. There is no specification in that article unless i skimmed over it. Clarify if there is. Also, please, lets not waste time debating semantics. On the generation 4 pistol, the release that i linked to IS extended over the factory catch. I dont care if it is medium, large, extra large or if its got perfectly round tits attached to it. In my eyes, it is a nice piece of gear, it is extended and it works. :) Does that clear up the confusion? http://pistol-training.com/archives/5924 |
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So the FBI is using gen 4's now? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile As I posted above, they recently ordered nearly 3,000 GEN3 23's. This thread is confusing the shit out of me.
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So the FBI is using gen 4's now? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The FBI is not using Gen4s. Quoted:
There is some massive confusion here. The original poster asked for a generation 4 extended mag catch for a .40 caliber weapon. I linked to one. The part that i linked to was originally created at the request of the FBI as per Todd Green and several other sources. It IS an extended catch, it IS for the generation 4 guns and NOT the generation 3 pistols. The article that you linked to is for a generation 3 catch i believe. There is no specification in that article unless i skimmed over it. Clarify if there is. Also, please, lets not waste time debating semantics. On the generation 4 pistol, the release that i linked to IS extended over the factory catch. I dont care if it is medium, large, extra large or if its got perfectly round tits attached to it. In my eyes, it is a nice piece of gear, it is extended and it works. :) Does that clear up the confusion? http://pistol-training.com/archives/5924 The OP did want an extended catch for a Gen4 gun, but the OP also asked to buy an FBI mag release. Which is only a Gen3 thing (as far as I know up until now). I don't know who Todd Green is. How do you know, or is it Todd Green that knows, that the FBI had a Gen4 extended or medium or whatever catch made for Gen4 pistols? It seems weird to me that they would do that since they don't use the Gen4. Perhaps they're working on a design that would allow them to make the transition to Gen4 when they're ready. |
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They dont use the generation 4 eh? At all?
You know this for a fact? With, absolute, 100% certainty? Are you perhaps an Agent? There is alot of information that is not public domain, alot of stuff that goes on behind the scene. I tend to trust Mr Green as he has been involved in this industry for a VERY long time and quite frankly, the guy has ZERO reason to disseminate bad information. What would *I* stand to gain by disseminating bad information? The OP asked for an extended Gen 4 Catch, i provided him with a link to the same catch that Todd Green has labeled, in QUOTES, "FBI". Whether the FBI uses it or not, at this point is up for debate and could go on endlessly so how about we agree to disagree and simply end this with a "ok, there is his extended catch, lets call it tiddlywinks the extendo catch for generation 4 Glock pistols". I think the new name fits better... |
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They dont use the generation 4 eh? At all? You know this for a fact? With, absolute, 100% certainty? Are you perhaps an Agent? There is alot of information that is not public domain, alot of stuff that goes on behind the scene. I tend to trust Mr Green as he has been involved in this industry for a VERY long time and quite frankly, the guy has ZERO reason to disseminate bad information. What would *I* stand to gain by disseminating bad information? The OP asked for an extended Gen 4 Catch, i provided him with a link to the same catch that Todd Green has labeled, in QUOTES, "FBI". Whether the FBI uses it or not, at this point is up for debate and could go on endlessly so how about we agree to disagree and simply end this with a "ok, there is his extended catch, lets call it tiddlywinks the extendo catch for generation 4 Glock pistols". I think the new name fits better... ok, there is his extended catch, lets call it tiddlywinks the extendo catch for generation 4 Glock pistols |
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....Friend of mine is FBI? ...WHAT FBI mag catch? His is stock.... If you check out GLOCKREAPER's post above with the order specification for the almost 3,000 G23s, they request "medium mag catches." I'm not sure how long your buddy has had his weapon, but he may have had it before the "medium" catch was released/official/produced/issued/etc. |
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Maybe some posters are confused because some guys within the FBI are ordering Gen4s for themselves rather than an agency order?
A buddy of mine in NCIS got issues a 228 (or 229?––can't remember), but he carries a G27 off work and at work. Does that mean NCIS "has gen3 G27s?" No, but some agents may carry them. |
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It looks as though Mr. Green says, "It was requested by a federal agency", and simply calls it the "FBI" mag catch. "Requesting" and "Taking Delivery" are 2 different things. Do not assume anything. I was just pointing out that he never says it was for the FBI. |
