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7/16/2009 6:52:13 PM EDT
So I was at my local gun shop today and I was talking to them about their ccw class and things like that.  Their class is 5 weeks long, once a week for I think 3 hours each day.  They were saying how if you ever had to use the pistol for self defense and end up killing someone, that it matters who you took a CCW class from.  They said some of those classes that are just one day or two day classes aren't worth it and can end up being bad for you if you did have to use your pistol for self-defense while carrying.

So I was wondering, how true is this?  Would it be worth taking the CCW class over a few weeks?  I plan on taking a few pistol classes and then taking a CCW and I wasn't sure if the one day classes vs. the 5 week course would matter or not.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
7/16/2009 7:06:11 PM EDT
[#1]
A good shoot is a good shoot and a bad shoot is a bad shoot.  It won't matter who you took the course from. Are they going to testify on your behalf?  The more training and education you have regarding UOF issues the better off you will be.  They are just hyping their classes IMO.
7/16/2009 7:10:33 PM EDT
[#2]
5 weeks??????????????? whaaaaaaat ? -

1 saturday - $135.00 out the door - is normal

IM me if you want a referance to a reputable instructor. -
7/16/2009 7:23:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
A good shoot is a good shoot and a bad shoot is a bad shoot.  It won't matter who you took the course from. Are they going to testify on your behalf?  The more training and education you have regarding UOF issues the better off you will be.  They are just hyping their classes IMO.



This, my class was 10 hours and then 2 hours of Range time and got my certificate 15 minutes afterward for a grand total of $35

7/16/2009 8:35:02 PM EDT
[#4]
back in delaware rumors of instructors being called to the stand in trials.
myth busters would say plausible
7/16/2009 9:09:23 PM EDT
[#5]
no no no
1 day and around $100
your ass is in your hands if you have to shoot some one, just remember that, in court, one story is better than two
7/17/2009 9:26:09 AM EDT
[#6]
2.5 hour class for 75$ is what my class consisted of.  I'm a criminal justice student so I didn't exactly learn anything new, but I can safely say that the instructor taught more then enough gun safety and made sure his students knew enough about the law to know good shoot from bad shoot. He went over all the necessarily laws and stuff quite well IMO. I don't understand how people can make a class last so long.


It was a small class though, only 4 of us in there. 2 hours consisted of the lecture portion, 30 minutes of range time. (And 100 rounds of different shooting drills).



A 5 week class means that's an extra 5 weeks till you get your permit.



By the way IMO you don't need any former classes/training before going to a CCW class. It's really basic stuff.  Just know how to handle your own handgun and shoot it fairly accurately.

Get the required class out the way so you can apply for the permit, then seek better training. (Just my opinion.) I have a friend who got his permit and had never even fired his pistol before... He probably had less then 500 rounds through ANY handgun before he took the CCW class, and he did just fine.
7/17/2009 11:04:08 AM EDT
[#7]
I took a one day class. Honestly, i felt bad for everyone else that took that class. I have had other training and I have always been confident with my handgun, but for a lot of the people in the class, it was thier first time firing their guns and didn't think they needed any other training.

This class was so poorly instructed that I actually called the NRA and let them know how unsafe the range time was and how ridiculously basic the information was.

In it's defense, it was a NRA class, and they stick to only the basics......while the instructor nervously plays with the trigger of every gun he picks up in the classroom. I seriously wish I took pictures of the range activity. It was enough to make anyone I told do the "oh shiiiit" face complete with hand over the mouth.

The best....the guy with his brand new beretta, looking down the barrel.....after a hang fire. I left the range after that.

I do think people need  a little more than one day of training in order to carry a concealed weapon, and I'm sorry, but NRA pistol training is a joke.

I'm not trying to start a flame war, I am a member and supporter of the NRA, this class was just horrible.
7/19/2009 7:49:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
So I was at my local gun shop today and I was talking to them about their ccw class and things like that.  Their class is 5 weeks long, once a week for I think 3 hours each day.  They were saying how if you ever had to use the pistol for self defense and end up killing someone, that it matters who you took a CCW class from.  They said some of those classes that are just one day or two day classes aren't worth it and can end up being bad for you if you did have to use your pistol for self-defense while carrying.

So I was wondering, how true is this?  Would it be worth taking the CCW class over a few weeks?  I plan on taking a few pistol classes and then taking a CCW and I wasn't sure if the one day classes vs. the 5 week course would matter or not.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks!


The "gun shop" you talked to is full of shit. They are promoting their own class by downgrading other instructors. I doubt that they're very busy, who would want to take 5 weeks to cover the EXACT SAME material that is done in the one day class.


7/19/2009 8:34:34 AM EDT
[#9]
5 weeks for 15 hours of instruction. That's asinine.
7/19/2009 1:48:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
5 weeks for 15 hours of instruction. That's asinine.

No kidding.
7/19/2009 2:32:31 PM EDT
[#11]
OP, you forgot rule Number #1.

Take everything said by a gun shop employee with a grain of salt.
7/19/2009 2:58:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
5 weeks for 15 hours of instruction. That's asinine.


That about sums it up. I can't imagine the amount of information you would retain would be good, either.

My class was two days - one day for nine hours in the class, and then about an hour and a half at the range the next day. The only reason we had to split the days up was due to scheduling conflicts.
I was very pleased with the class...but yeah there were some that had never fired a gun before...
7/19/2009 3:36:46 PM EDT
[#13]
It doesn't matter who you took your class from.  Take whatever class you need to so you can legitimately get your permit.  Then, seek out some professional instruction (not from your local gunshop) that will actually help you in a lethal force situation not some yahoo from the gunshop telling you a bunch of nonsense.