Posted: 4/9/2006 11:49:00 AM EDT
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Does anyone work with a partner and conceal without the buddy knowing it? Right now I am a sheep with no CCW, but I am considering it. I am a surveyor and I work with the same guy all day long. He is a hunter and not anti-gun, but seems to think that handguns have no good purpose. hinking Any thoughts? |
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concealed The word alone has your answer. Tell the ones that need to know. Does he need to know? No! Just because you work with him all day long means nothing. You owe no explanation to him. Nor do I see an ethical issue or obligation to do so. In fact I think it is best not to, therefore he can't mention it to others making you look like some kind of nut case. His opinion(s) should have no reflection on you and your needs. Your spouse needs to know for no other reason than if they feel it you don’t want them to freak out. Common Sense should prevail here. The fewer people who know you are Legally armed the safer you will be. |
Absolutely. I've even worked on a surveying crew and I agree, there's no way he won't eventually know. Now, do you need to explain it? I don't see why. Unless there's a company policy that he might report you as violating or something, it doesn't seem like it's any of his business. |
I will have to agree here but I still would not the the cat out of the bag until the day he sees it and asks. |
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This might be a good application for a small BUG. I can't imagine anyone spotting a 442 in your pocket or something equally small on your ankle. Depends a lot on what kind of clothes you wear and what your build is like. If you suddenly change clothing styles or act weird you will call attention to yourself. If you analyze your situation carefully and make changes very slowly I think you could carry without being noticed, but you will have to keep your mouth shut and be careful. Where I work guns are a total no-no. But I have no doubt I could carry without anyone detecting despite being up close and personal with the same folks throughout the day. |
| Almost everyone that I work with knows I have a carry permit. I don’t carry at work because I am not allowed to in the building I work in. We had a big discussion about it one day and I had to set them straight about how it works which basically led to them finding out that I have a permit. I would almost prefer they didn't know but I think it was kind of helpful because some of them were interested in getting there’s. I mean you can't promote concealed carry to people if you don’t at least imply that you have one. |
The thing is you can use many reasons to promote having a permit without disclosing that you carry a gun every day. I simply tell people I am a gun rights advocate I have a permit because I can have one. I further state that you yourself should also get one because you will be the first to complain if the right to carry ever gets revoked. If for some reason the law changes and no longer permits civilians from carrying a concealed firearm at least I will be grandfathered in you will just be plane out of luck. Today you don’t care about the issue because you are able to get one so it is no big deal. Tomorrow may be different. I might feel the need to carry a gun at times so in my case I have the right to do so. Most of the time this is not the case. End of discussion for me. I have made my point and did not give out specifics of when or even if I carry. Just showed the proof of why you should have a permit. Another good reason not to let anyone know you carry. I have found that your close friends can get real cocky/brave in a given situation knowing full well that you can and will protect them. Where they might have backed down or even left the situation normally. The permit and weapon is there for you and your discretion only. I for one do not feel the need for anyone to know I have a gun on my person from friend to foe. It is truly know ones business. |
I grew up working as a rodman for my dad (a surveyor); if you get half as sweaty and nasty as we did he'll figure it out real quick. Depending on where we were working, my dad usually carried a Ruger Blackhawk 45 for dogs (two and four legged), hogs etc and I usually had a Ruger .22 for snakes. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless you think he'll freak and try to get you in trouble. I would recomend a stainless gun though. 
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| I don't think he would try to get me in trouble ,but I'm afraid that he would talk to other people in the company and it could turn ugly over nothing. But I guess that's always a risk for carrying at work. Currently there is no policy against it although the building management posted a "no guns" sign that disappeared two weeks after it was posted. |
My friends and family know that if something goes down, I will be a 'wallflower.' and won't back them up UNTIL it gets uber-nasty. Why? As CCW holders we have a moral and legal obligation to AVOID any actions or words that will escalate the situation. In court it would look nasty to have to admit that you or I spoke the words that [sarcasm] made the BG even madder and more out of control [/sarcasm] and caused him to die. |
The problem with your situation IMO only for myself not you is control. I know I have that same moral and somewhat legal obligation as you to walk away and avoid if at all possible. I can completely control my actions, but I have no control over a friend and there actions. Being a wallflower won’t stop your friends from doing what they will do. If they get into that much trouble then guess what! So will you. Also note I did not say anything about close family members wife and children. My Mom, Dad, brothers, sisters need not know either. These are my personal rules for me. Everyone is different and what they do is just fine by me with this issue. |