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Posted: 8/8/2012 5:43:32 PM EDT
| is there a source for a new one, since i dont think it will hold up more than a couple thousand rounds |
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Are you saying the pistol will not hold up after a few thousand rounds or are you speaking of the buffer 
im talking about the plastic block that puts the piston in the gas tube. i only imagine it will get tore up after it gets slammed in to a couple thousand times from the bolt carrier |
| The buffers sold on the web by Buffer Tech & Blackjack feel rubberized, while the buffer that comes in the mini Draco feels like a hard plastic. However, I'm sure they would work if necessary. In my opinion, the buffer Tech is far superior to the Blackjack. They last much longer. GARY N4KVE |
| If your bolt is hitting the plastic block, then you need a new recoil spring. I've filmed mine a few times at 1000 fps, the bolt comes now where near the plastic block, just like a bolt should never touch the rear trunnion on any AK, of any sort. If it is, it is time for a new recoil spring. |
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If your bolt is hitting the plastic block, then you need a new recoil spring. I've filmed mine a few times at 1000 fps, the bolt comes now where near the plastic block, just like a bolt should never touch the rear trunnion on any AK, of any sort. If it is, it is time for a new recoil spring. so technically you can remove the buff and not have any problems on yours? |
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If your bolt is hitting the plastic block, then you need a new recoil spring. I've filmed mine a few times at 1000 fps, the bolt comes now where near the plastic block, just like a bolt should never touch the rear trunnion on any AK, of any sort. If it is, it is time for a new recoil spring. so technically you can remove the buff and not have any problems on yours? Years ago when people were building ak pistol had problems of the bolts carriers (BC) coming back to far and not going back into the front trinion. Sometimes with pistols the front of the bolt carrier gets cut down pretty short. Makes me wonder how they would work with out the buffer, some of the earlier pistols (homemade) once in a while it would jam if the buffer was out. Bolt would come back to far and then get hung up. The OP concern about the buffer not holding up too a few thousands rds, mine has much more than that through it and still looks good. dk8019 has video show the BC not hitting the buffer it should hold up a long time. Any chance of posting thoose videos? |
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The mini Draco buffer is considerably thicker than the Blackjack or Buffer Tech style buffers.
Also, I don't think it is really designed to absorb impact. I think it's main purpose is simply to prevent someone from manually pulling the bolt carrier/piston assembly back far enough for the piston to come out of the tube. As a few people have pointed out, the buffer should not be taking any impacts during normal firing unless your recoil spring has become weak. |
| The mini Draco has a gas piston so short, should you remove the factory buffer, the piston will come back too far, & pop out of the gas tube. So the carrier has to hit the buffer to keep it from going back any further. Also, since the mini Draco is a relatively new gun, and made from new parts, how could the recoil spring be worn out? Not like it was assembled from a 30 year old parts kit. GARY N4KVE |
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The mini Draco has a gas piston so short, should you remove the factory buffer, the piston will come back too far, & pop out of the gas tube. So the carrier has to hit the buffer to keep it from going back any further. Also, since the mini Draco is a relatively new gun, and made from new parts, how could the recoil spring be worn out? Not like it was assembled from a 30 year old parts kit. GARY N4KVE As near as I can tell from looking at mine, this is incorrect. It looks like maybe the bolt has contacted the buffer once or twice, and not particularly hard. It could even have been from me playing with it. Ok, just for grins, I went out back and shot a couple rounds without the buffer. The bolt did not come off the track, the gun did not fly apart, and there were no calls to 911. I think the buffer is there as a safeguard, should you have some hot rounds or the spring become weak. It's clearly not meant to take a regular beating, and in my case anyway, it's not taking any kind of beating. YMMV, etc. Az |
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Good to know. Thanks. GARY N4KVE
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The mini Draco has a gas piston so short, should you remove the factory buffer, the piston will come back too far, & pop out of the gas tube. So the carrier has to hit the buffer to keep it from going back any further. Also, since the mini Draco is a relatively new gun, and made from new parts, how could the recoil spring be worn out? Not like it was assembled from a 30 year old parts kit. GARY N4KVE As near as I can tell from looking at mine, this is incorrect. It looks like maybe the bolt has contacted the buffer once or twice, and not particularly hard. It could even have been from me playing with it. Ok, just for grins, I went out back and shot a couple rounds without the buffer. The bolt did not come off the track, the gun did not fly apart, and there were no calls to 911. I think the buffer is there as a safeguard, should you have some hot rounds or the spring become weak. It's clearly not meant to take a regular beating, and in my case anyway, it's not taking any kind of beating. YMMV, etc. Az |
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Well guys, I thought it would be a good idea to refilm my Mini-Draco now that is an SBR, and is around 600 rounds from new now. I've exclusively fired 154 grain loads in this guy. Here's the results:
Mini Draco Short story, the bolt carrier barely kisses the plastic buffer now. After playing with it, I believe one of the earlier posters got it right when he said the gas piston length is the reason we have the plastic block. The block ensures the gas piston can be withdrawn beyond the rear sight base, which you can easily do with the buffer removed. Short term it may not hurt much, but as much as the carrier moves around, I would image the gas piston would be chipped away around the edges as it impacts the sight base on reinsertation. High speed video is a great tool for finding things like this out. Enjoy! |
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