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12/4/2011 3:31:54 PM EDT
I was out trying to refine my zero with my Galil 7.62mm ARM at a new range.  I ended up bottoming out my front sight to get it on paper and then switching to the 500m rear sight and was able to zero at 100yd with a half turn off of the bottom.  My preference would be to have my 300m sight an inch or two high at 100yd and, when I get an opportunity, attempt to refine a 200m zero on the 300m sight.  I'm sure that I've had it zero'd better before and am generally perplexed at the massive shift in vertical POI; the sight is obviously low in the front sight globe.  

I don't think that ammo is the primary issue since almost everything that I've used is 147/150gr FMJ and 168gr HPBT printed pretty much the same.  

My new theory is that, the range that I have been zeroing at has a wooden portal that I have been able to push my bipod into for a steady hold and recovery; great for stability.  Could it be that pressure on the bipod is shifting the POI?  It feels like there might be a little flex at the trunnion when I put some good pressure on the bipod.  Anyone have a similar experience with an ARM?

Feedback would be great before I blow another 40rds playing with it off of a rest instead of the bipod, and bipod with no forward pressure, to test my theory.  

I suppose this is a cry for help and potentially a warning for others.  I will post again after my next range trip.

Chops
12/9/2011 1:54:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Range time complete.  I was at the same range in very similar conditions as my earlier zeroing session; ammo was the same Win Q3130.  I was able to produce a 12" vertical and 6" horizontal variance in POI just by putting pressure from the rear against the bipod on a solid front stop.  Initially I had been pushing hard forward into the bipod, but I assumed a good rested bench hold, bipod folded, and a good amount of pull straight back on the forearm which brought the point of impact back up 12" and to the right 6".  I rezeroed using the rest by switching back to the 300m rear sight and bringing the front sight back up 1 1/4 turns.

Interesting experiment for me anyway.  Now I know that excessive forward pressure on the bipod will bring my POI lower.

Chops
12/12/2011 12:18:59 PM EDT
[#2]
interesting. I had often held the thought that something like this could occur, but not to such an extent. Filed away for the future. THX!
12/14/2011 6:15:45 AM EDT
[#3]
I personally don't use a Bi-pod I shoot with a bean pillow or  a vise if I want to make sure its not me doing the moving....My shooting buddy shoots with a Bipod on his Ak and also on his AR and his shots are all over the paper....If you can learn to balance the pressure your putting on the barrel  its a lesson learned.
1/27/2012 6:37:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Interesting. Maybe the length of the barrel and it's relatively thin contour is causing the barrel to flex?  I'll have to try that next time I shoot my ARM.
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