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7/18/2010 4:08:18 PM EDT
hi guys.  recently got a century arms golani.  I know the stories about their quality and buying one is a crap shoot.  I like the weapon a lot and just ordered more mags from cdnn.  I have several questions I hope someone on the forum can help me with.  First does anyone have a recommendation for steel case ammo to use.  I tried wolf black box and after a few rounds a case gets stuck in the chamber and I have to fielld strip the weapon and knock it out with a cleaning rod.  It definitely does not like wolf.  I function tested it with some winchester white box 55 gr fmj and it ran like a champ.  The only problem is it dents up the brass cases so badly in front of the shoulder that they are not reloadable.  I currenly shoot an AR also, and while I only reload pistol ammo right now I always police and keep my brass for a rainy day.  Is there a solution to this brass denting problem.  Thanks in advance for any thoughts and help with these two questions.
7/18/2010 5:24:29 PM EDT
[#1]
The ejected shells strike the up-turned charging handle. Only way to remedy that is to bend the charging handle down.

I have a Golani and enjoy it immensely.
7/19/2010 1:11:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Mine does not like Wolf ammo either, but it eats up the new Hornady training ammo that is steel cased.
7/20/2010 5:45:15 AM EDT
[#3]
The wolf should not be a problem.
Sounds like you have a small/tight chamber.
Do the fired hulls have speckles/spots on them?
Try polishing the chamber with some good bore cleaner.
A fired case should go in and out easy once it's clean.
If the chamber has parkerizing in it you'll probally need to run a finish reamer inside to clear it out.
The empties actually hit the edge of the top cover and bounce away.
A valmet port buffer and AK top cover would fix the brass problem but you'll lose the rear sight.
A rail section from Brownells and a detachable sight for an AR-15 would sort that out.
Shoot the brass in the AR15 until the last reload and the run them in the Galoni.
7/20/2010 3:04:28 PM EDT
[#4]
I have an Action Arms Galil with the same brass denting situation.
The cases strike the top cover at the rear of the ejection port causing the dents
so I don't think it can avoided.  I have, however, reloaded the dented casings
and after sizing they went through the gun fine.


Joe O
7/21/2010 7:58:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Galils and Valmets tend to enthusiatically eject the brass they cycle. Expect it do be damaged.

I lke symplicity of the original system more than I would lke the virtues of an adjustible gas block.

DB
7/25/2010 2:57:35 AM EDT
[#6]
I reload and my "last time" brass is reserved for the Galil. I go three times for the ARs then into the Galil bucket it goes.
7/27/2010 6:00:12 PM EDT
[#7]
If ur Galil is not denting cases and spitting them about 10-15 feet to the right and forward, it's not right.  
7/28/2010 2:20:37 PM EDT
[#8]
There is a way to make a FAL eject cleanly by lightly modifying the extractor.  A while ago I asked in this forum if anyone had tried that on their Galil/Golani, but nobody had.  I'd try it if I had an extra extractor.  Guess I'll have to get one and try it.  If it works, it would be worth posting here.
7/28/2010 2:55:13 PM EDT
[#9]
The modification like the fal would require that the ejector be filed to shape, NOT the extractor. As it is part of the receiver, I would contemplate this change only on a stamped rifle where I could replace the rail which included the ejector.

I have used weather stripping on the dust cover around the opening. If the rubber stripping is thin enough to work, it will only reduce the damage. It does not look bad, if it is noticed at all.

I have a valmet hunter in .308. It has an on/off gas valve in the block. The valve opening is the same internal diameter as the gas block, so it should not actually be reducing the gas flow, but, this rifle is much gentler on brass. It does not put the kink in it or eject it into the next station to the right at the range.
7/30/2010 10:21:57 AM EDT
[#10]
Ooops!  Yes you are correct.  I just re-found the weblink.  I was thinking of the 1911.  I can't find a Galil ejector anyway.
Oh well.  Good thing for Wolf.
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