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Posted: 1/26/2011 11:40:12 AM EDT
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Hello all, fresh face here. I have been considering an SKS recently and though I am still not certain I am considering modifying it to accept removable magazines.
Is there any gunsmithing required or do you just remove the factory hardware on the underside making it able to accept mags? Thanks |
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A viable option is to purchase an adapter that will allow a modified Tapco 20 round magazine to work as a reliable detachable with no permanent modifications to your gun. Here is a link to some more information on the SKS Boards. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?board=65.0 |
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Reliability with the Chinese 20 shot magazines can be a problem.
In addition, you don't know what a hard to clear jam is until you've tried to load the second 10 cartridges and backed the bolt off just far enough to release the BHO with the clip still in the rifle. |
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Don't bother. Buy a "D" or "M" model instead. Or an AK, which is what you really want for R&R. In that case I've got my eye on this AK from Atlantic What do you think? |
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Don't bother. Buy a "D" or "M" model instead. Or an AK, which is what you really want for R&R. In that case I've got my eye on this AK from Atlantic What do you think? Blaine is good people, he'll answer any questions you have in his forum or on the phone. Plus, you get an Arfcom discount that will basically cover your shipping. That looks like a solid gun for the price and you're getting all the accoutrement. A surplus rod can be found at Cope's if your gun doesn't have one. That wood can be easily cleaned up or replaced down the road at some point. Just understand that the AK and the SKS are very different rifles. The AK has different ergonomics, manual of arms and is considered less accurate by design. What we shoot and call an AK is generally not the select fire factory product as issued. But it will accept 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, round mags, drums and most of the freak mags. SKS's are nice too. People desire them for their own qualities. It's more like a rifle and they are still pretty cheap but not as cheap as they once were. My "M" was $260 about 15 years ago. Surplus standards could still be had for less than $100 then. |
Hi, I have 4 Tapco 20 rounders that all shoot fine. No Jams , no FTF . No mods needed except maybe shave a little wood on inside of stock to prevent side pressure on magazine. Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. The SKS ( millions of them out there from all Commie-Block Nations ) makes a great Urban Carbine platform . Nothing against the collectors and yes a Russian that went for $99 in 1992 now goes for $400 +, but when the Yugo 59/66 first came in onesey twosey people spent over $800, then eventually the Yugo market drained into the US and they could be had for $150 or less. Speculating on guns is part of the built in cost I guess but Me I buy them to shoot. Yes I could get a AK variant, but I did not want a AK ...WVleo
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Hi, I have 4 Tapco 20 rounders that all shoot fine. No Jams , no FTF . No mods needed except maybe shave a little wood on inside of stock to prevent side pressure on magazine. Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. The SKS ( millions of them out there from all Commie-Block Nations ) makes a great Urban Carbine platform . Nothing against the collectors and yes a Russian that went for $99 in 1992 now goes for $400 +, but when the Yugo 59/66 first came in onesey twosey people spent over $800, then eventually the Yugo market drained into the US and they could be had for $150 or less. Speculating on guns is part of the built in cost I guess but Me I buy them to shoot. Yes I could get a AK variant, but I did not want a AKhttp://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m243/WVleo/Picture737.jpg...WVleo I totally disagree with your comments about it being a good carbine platform. Like ColonelHurtz said, it's more of a rifle. You can't put an adjustable stock and a box mag on a rifle and call it a "good carbine platform". Just because it has the features you'd expect doesn't mean they're executed well. Case in point lets talk about your rifle in your post cause one of my buddies did exactly what you did and I was able to play with it. First off, the gun is majorly front heavy mainly due with the long action that the SKS employs. Second of all, your mags are not truly detachable in the sense of their ease of removal and insertion. Third is gun is just plain awkward to hold and fire when you tapco it out, it just doesn't feel right. Like ColonelHurtz said, SKS is best left in it's stock form and used as a "rifle". Get good with the stripper clips and you can reload twice as fast as those awkward duckbill mags. If you shoulder an AK and then shouldered a tapco'd out SKS everything I just explained will make perfect sense. |
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Hi, I have 4 Tapco 20 rounders that all shoot fine. No Jams , no FTF . No mods needed except maybe shave a little wood on inside of stock to prevent side pressure on magazine. Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. The SKS ( millions of them out there from all Commie-Block Nations ) makes a great Urban Carbine platform . Nothing against the collectors and yes a Russian that went for $99 in 1992 now goes for $400 +, but when the Yugo 59/66 first came in onesey twosey people spent over $800, then eventually the Yugo market drained into the US and they could be had for $150 or less. Speculating on guns is part of the built in cost I guess but Me I buy them to shoot. Yes I could get a AK variant, but I did not want a AKhttp://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m243/WVleo/Picture737.jpg...WVleo I totally disagree with your comments about it being a good carbine platform. Like ColonelHurtz said, it's more of a rifle. You can't put an adjustable stock and a box mag on a rifle and call it a "good carbine platform". Just because it has the features you'd expect doesn't mean they're executed well. Case in point lets talk about your rifle in your post cause one of my buddies did exactly what you did and I was able to play with it. First off, the gun is majorly front heavy mainly due with the long action that the SKS employs. Second of all, your mags are not truly detachable in the sense of their ease of removal and insertion. Third is gun is just plain awkward to hold and fire when you tapco it out, it just doesn't feel right. Like ColonelHurtz said, SKS is best left in it's stock form and used as a "rifle". Get good with the stripper clips and you can reload twice as fast as those awkward duckbill mags. If you shoulder an AK and then shouldered a tapco'd out SKS everything I just explained will make perfect sense. Agreed.... A Sino-Soviet belongs in its proper configuration, not a half-assed attempt at "improving" such a historical piece. If you want an "urban carbine"(whatever the hell that is..)then buy an AK or AR, maybe even a Mini-14. You want quick-detachable mags and the ability to reload w/ strip clips, then why not a VZ-58? |
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Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. Congratulations. You've managed to spend a bunch of money and in the process reduced the value of your rifle. 
On the bright side assuming he keeps the wood with the gun, when he sells it cause he is having issues with it or just doesn't like it anymore, whoever buys it will have a bunch of crap to sell to recoup costs on top of the lower base value of the gun like you have mentioned. Again, this is assuming he doesn't go full herp derp and get rid of the wood that goes with the gun. I bought a WASR from a buddy a few years ago for $300 and ended up selling all the tapco crap for around $75 and my buddy on the board "halflife" re-finished the wood. Doesn't get much better then that. |
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A viable option is to purchase an adapter that will allow a modified Tapco 20 round magazine to work as a reliable detachable with no permanent modifications to your gun. Here is a link to some more information on the SKS Boards. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?board=65.0 If you have the adapter and mag and nothing else. is it compliant? |
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IIRC (and I may not) an SKS has 14 countable parts. Removing the imported magazine body and magazine spring leaves 12 imported countable parts. A maximum of 10 imported countable parts are permitted
IF my memory is correct, the rifle with the TAPCO magazine alone would not be compliant. |
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Yes, you would need two other parts. A stock and handguard are the most common remedy. If you wanted to go another route, you would have to choose two from the following list. 1. Receiver 2. Barrel 3. Bolt 4. Bolt carrier 5. Gas piston 6. Trigger housing 7. Trigger 8. Hammer 9. Sear 10. Disconnector (see below) 11. Stock 12. Handguard 13. Magazine body 14. Follower |
| LOL LOL LOL ! The great SKS collecters have spoken LOL LOL ! You have no idea about the heft of this carbine and when it came to Me it already was wearing a folding stock. Magazine pop in and out with bolt closed as I have shaved the wings off the bottom of the bolt. Has about 600 rounds threw it since I built it with no FTF issues. I did do a 4-8 PM champher of the chamber to make it more reliable. But I don't collect guns I shoot them. LOL LOL LOL.......WVleo |
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LOL LOL LOL ! The great SKS collecters have spoken LOL LOL ! You have no idea about the heft of this carbine and when it came to Me it already was wearing a folding stock. Magazine pop in and out with bolt closed as I have shaved the wings off the bottom of the bolt. Has about 600 rounds threw it since I built it with no FTF issues. I did do a 4-8 PM champher of the chamber to make it more reliable. But I don't collect guns I shoot them. LOL LOL LOL.......WVleo I shoot my firearms as well. The difference between us is that when I want a carbine with a detachable box magazine I buy or build an AK, I don't butcher a perfectly good 10 shot fixed magazine rifle. The AK will always be superior to the SKS in the carbine role - because it was designed to fill that role. |
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LOL LOL LOL ! The great SKS collecters have spoken LOL LOL ! You have no idea about the heft of this carbine and when it came to Me it already was wearing a folding stock. Magazine pop in and out with bolt closed as I have shaved the wings off the bottom of the bolt. Has about 600 rounds threw it since I built it with no FTF issues. I did do a 4-8 PM champher of the chamber to make it more reliable. But I don't collect guns I shoot them. LOL LOL LOL.......WVleo I shoot my firearms as well. The difference between us is that when I want a carbine with a detachable box magazine I buy or build an AK, I don't butcher a perfectly good 10 shot fixed magazine rifle. The AK will always be superior to the SKS in the carbine role - because it was designed to fill that role. Thats Your opinion, not mine ! So I have what I want in a Urban Carbine, with detachable 20 round magazines. Also added a extended magazine release to add to this platform. I did not butcher ( Your opinion LOL ) anything, I improved the weapon for My use . The real difference between Us is I offer views based on ?'s asked and You give Your opinion. Well opinion are like A$$holes as everybody has 1 and no one thinks there's stinks... LOL OWELL I'm no collector but it's a carbine, not a rifle LOL LOL.......WVleo 
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Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. Congratulations. You've managed to spend a bunch of money and in the process reduced the value of your rifle.
Let's see SKS I traded for ammo that cost Me $80, Tapco stock and parts another $120 from ebay, 4 mags at $17 apiece, Red dot from Marsh was $69 .................I know the economy sucks, but $337 for a reliable gun to fit My needs doesn't seem excessive. I'm probally off by ten bucks or so because I did " Have to Have " the Tapco But pad that goes on the end of the T-6 stock, made a difference ! If You want to keep the SKS stock, then by all means keep Yours stock, I Myself have no use for a 10 round battlefield weapon. I also like the fact that My S-10 pick up has automatic transmission unlike the original Chevy trucks with there manual transmissions , but thats just Me...wvleo |
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I love how others try to tell someone what to do with their gun. It has always been an odd trait the way people get all butt hurt over what someone else does with their gun.
Wah, wah, wah cry a fucking river. Mind your own damn business. You want a stock SKS, great. Its a free country, go buy one and enjoy it. He likes his the way he dressed it up, great. Some call it a rifle and others think its a carbine. Guess what? It doesnt fucking matter, its still an SKS. I tend to think it is more of a carbine due to its size but it doesnt matter now does it. I have one stock early Russian and then I have one I bought from an idiot who didnt know how to put it back together after he took it apart. It was minus the stock so I am playing with this one to dress it up the way I want BECAUSE ITS MY GUN AND YOUR OPINION MEANS SHIT! For the record, if you think an SKS is heavy, you better give your guns to someone who is big enough to handle them and find a new hobby. |
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Mine is a all Tapco'ed out Sino-Soviet . That BS about keeping them stock is just that BS for the collectors. Congratulations. You've managed to spend a bunch of money and in the process reduced the value of your rifle.
Let's see SKS I traded for ammo that cost Me $80, Tapco stock and parts another $120 from ebay, 4 mags at $17 apiece, Red dot from Marsh was $69 .................I know the economy sucks, but $337 for a reliable gun to fit My needs doesn't seem excessive. I'm probally off by ten bucks or so because I did " Have to Have " the Tapco But pad that goes on the end of the T-6 stock, made a difference ! If You want to keep the SKS stock, then by all means keep Yours stock, I Myself have no use for a 10 round battlefield weapon. I also like the fact that My S-10 pick up has automatic transmission unlike the original Chevy trucks with there manual transmissions , but thats just Me...wvleo Funny thing is the M1 Garand is only an 8 round non detachable magazine and it's what worked in World War II; in both urban and rural combat. The stock wasn't collapsible or cushioned either Rambo. And if you're going to throw in totally unrelated crap at the end then I'll play too. I also like the fact that my pastrami sandwich I had for lunch had honey mustard on it unlike the original menu version with THEIR mayo, but that's just my preference. Why you keep capitalizing the words "me" and "my" is also beyond me. |
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Yeah Chuckles the clown chimes in . LOL LOL Don't see many Garands as the arms for many countries nowadays do You ! Your opinion is a insult with no meaning so it not relevant as I'm sure You would know if You ever climbed out of Your mother's basement. Get a life. My gun and I converted it to fit My needs You naysayers are just dried up whiners living in the past waiting for the day of $79 Russian SKS and 1000 rounds of 7.62X39 for $25 LOL LOL . The SKS is not now or will it ever be a rare firearm, more like the volkwagon beetles Guys souped up for the sand dunes, fun inexpensive platforms. Rambo LOL You kill Me with Your uneducated, uninformed accusations, shows Your weakness........WVleo
Much of modern english appears beyond You.......leo |
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Yeah Chuckles the clown chimes in . LOL LOL Don't see many Garands as the arms for many countries nowadays do You ! Your opinion is a insult with no meaning so it not relevant as I'm sure You would know if You ever climbed out of Your mother's basement. Get a life. My gun and I converted it to fit My needs You naysayers are just dried up whiners living in the past waiting for the day of $79 Russian SKS and 1000 rounds of 7.62X39 for $25 LOL LOL . The SKS is not now or will it ever be a rare firearm, more like the volkwagon beetles Guys souped up for the sand dunes, fun inexpensive platforms. Rambo LOL You kill Me with Your uneducated, uninformed accusations, shows Your weakness........WVleo Much of modern english appears beyond You.......leo Actually I'm only 27 and I've been in the Navy for over 9 years. I'm also in a commissioning program and in my final semester of double majoring in Mechanical Engineering Technology and Military History with a minor in Writing. I've been living on my own in my own house for as long as I've been in the Navy. I was merely trying to point out that the SKS is already a more than capable weapon, and greater men than you have been more than able to do more with less. I'm not attacking your choice of modification, it is your gun, you should do whatever you want to it. No, the SKS is not rare, nor are Kalishnikovs, but calling it an, "urban carbine," makes it sound as if you're planning on using it for a SHTF scenario. If that is your weapon of choice then more power to you but the more do-it-yourself modifications you make the more you negatively effect the reliability unless it is a class-wide problem with a known and reliable solution. In regards to modern English being beyond me, then I guess you're right. I'm still trying to figure out why you capitalize some words. If you're trying to convey them as being accented, most people would do this by capitalizing the ENTIRE word or using italics to show that the word should be read differently than the surrounding words. |
Did I not address the reliability issue when I wrote that the chamber had been champhered in the 4pm-8pm area ? The Tapco magazines I have been using ( four now was originally 3 ) are all functioning with no FTF issues. And removing the wings from the Bolt carrier makes inserting the magazine without the bolt being drawn back . I never stated I was a great man and only expressed the desire to transfer the weapon for My use. Your Naval service is commendable but Your social skills are lacking as when does a commissioned officer use language like " Rambo " when refering to a internet opinion of someone they disagree with. The fact that I refer to this weapon as a Urban Carbine is in direct response to the racist " Bubba " comments that always arise from the Better than Thou ( Ohh notice the capital letters ) internet Ninja boys living the dream threw there keyboards always spew. .........WVleo
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Wow Nitromax7 looks like your thread got derailed.
So i cant say for sure because i have not done it. but reiability with anything but stock mags seems questionable. Also runs into 922 compiance. In stock form they are a fun rifle. Skipping cans down range open sighted, is fun. lets face it you want to buy another rifle anyway. 
That AK at atlantic looks good, reputable company from what i hear. i have a Romanian i am happy with it Thats nice it comes with a case right. Scope rail is nice. |
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Wow Nitromax7 looks like your thread got derailed. lets face it you want to buy another rifle anyway.
Sorry, I'm partly responsible for that. The SKS is a fun rifle, ammo is cheap. Your fun will last longer if you're shooting 10 at a time then pushing another 10 in, using magazines just makes things go faster. Just go pick it up, then you're done thinking about it. |
I was only responding to the OP ? And showing Him there is a viable replacement for the stock 10 round magazine. Not telling Him don't do this and You can't do that. Then some of You ( granted not all ) have jumped this thread with all Your opinions and I show a valid argument to Your misconception that the stock 10 round magazine can not be improved . Your views that the carbine has been " Dressed up " or Bubba'ed are irrellevant to the original posters ? But being Your the SKS Moral Majority You chose to voice Your opinion then make jest of those who disagree. Who cares, as from some of Your comments stated here I would not associate with people with your attitudes anyway . But keep preaching as I'm sure there are millions of SKS carbines out there that need saving LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !  ........WVleo
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I sure would not want to say anything against another man's weapon so I won't.
My best buddy of the last 25 years or so has a nice little SKS,who made it I don't know,but it shoots great,never a problem,easy to load with the stripper clips,100% reliable rifle. Then there's this piece of shit that I got from a guy who needed money,I thankfully get my money back and get rid of the rifle when he's back on his feet. It's got some folding plastic junk it's sitting in (it just sits in there,floppy and loose) and some goofy ass 30rnd mags that wont feed,and are a total bitch to get into the gun at all. If the shit ever hit the fan I'd leave that hunk of crap and hope the enemy picked it up and tried to use it. I am glad that WVLeo likes his though,the folding stock is nice to save space,balance is all screwed up though IMO OH,I forgot,thanks WVLeo for letting us know about how yours feeds well out of the 20rd mags,I might have to try one,30rd USA mags suck ass as far as I can tell. |
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