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2/11/2007 9:50:12 PM EDT
Gilberts Guns has VEPRs in stock. If I'm liein' I'm diein'. Was on Gunbroker tooling around and thought, hey I wonder. Type in VEPR and they have one for auction in 762 so I go to the site and BAM! List all the models we were told they were getting and the ALL say "In Stock". I'm ordering mine right now. Wooo Doggie!Edit: No good ordering right now, I'm still in Iraq. Crap.
2/11/2007 10:18:44 PM EDT
[#1]
you sure those take hi-caps?
2/11/2007 10:38:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Well as long as they take double stacks its not hard to make them take high caps. Same procedure as getting a Saiga to take high caps if I'm not mistaken. Anybody want to correect me on this? Theres also the stock and handgaurd situation to straighten out as well. ACE makes the folding stock, but it says on their sight it won't fit the thumbhole style VEPRs, not sure why though. I suppose you could always buy stuff that RA hasn't used, if they still have any. And then making it compliant. Probably the FCG will be replaced.
2/11/2007 10:58:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Welp looks like I'm way off. I just read in an older post that Atlantic says they are "low cap units and will take extensice work" in order to get them to tkae high cap mags. Has to do with importation restrictions.
2/12/2007 4:20:38 AM EDT
[#4]
They will need to be converted and made 922R compliant
2/12/2007 4:58:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Here's their website.  They come with single stack mags, I assume that's all they'll take as is.

https://www.gilbertsguns.com/index.php?request=main.index&categoryid=529&ck_SID=0311907434162fe1d7495792911
2/12/2007 5:07:49 PM EDT
[#6]
those prices are terrible

2D2C
2/12/2007 6:11:23 PM EDT
[#7]
furniture is pretty, but it's still not what it used to be....
2/12/2007 6:20:24 PM EDT
[#8]
who the hell wants VEPRS at those prices when we have saigas with highcaps for like 1/2 the cost?

2/12/2007 7:48:35 PM EDT
[#9]
People who want an RPK reciever, trunions and a heavy barrel.
2/13/2007 12:08:38 AM EDT
[#10]
LOL
2/13/2007 5:48:31 PM EDT
[#11]
unless they do something to get back to the old VEPR's, I'm guessing that family of rifles is going to die
2/13/2007 6:35:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Wow. Those are a lot of money.
2/13/2007 6:55:12 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Here's their website.  They come with single stack mags, I assume that's all they'll take as is.

https://www.gilbertsguns.com/index.php?request=main.index&categoryid=529&ck_SID=0311907434162fe1d7495792911



The stocks look a bit different in the pistol grip area than my original Vepr 1, but I love the walnut.

Unless they've dorked around with the magwell design they will take high cap mags in 7.62x39.  The 223/556 may need some tweaking, as there is not set 223 pattern AK platform (more on that below).  The 308 is a unique platform, so it takes only Vepr mags.  It says one 10 round and one 5 round mag because that's how they are shipped.  None of them should be single stack mags though.  It should have a double stack mag well.


On the 223/556, since it is not a combloc caliber, there is no standard tooling for a 223 pattern gun.  This makes finding 223 mags that work in a particular rifle a difficult task sometimes. The bulgarians used an AK-47 pattern magwell for their 223 guns, so their 223 mags are deigned around the '47 magwell opening.  But the 223 Saiga (for sure) and Vepr (I believe) are built off of the 5.45x39 AK-74 pattern magwell, which is narrower than the old '47 design.  Many other countries that produced 223 AKs use one or the other pattern rifle for their designs, and some made up their own (Israeli Galils)

Bulgarian 223 mags fit rifles made for the wider '47 pattern mags, so they tend not to work too well in the Saigas and Veprs.  Robarms used to modify an AK-74 bakelite mag and add a 223 follower to it for use in their 223 Veprs, with mixed results.  It will be interesting to see what the 223 Vepr mag solution will be.

There are two tacked threads in this forum on how to get 223 mags to work in a Saiga
2/13/2007 7:18:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Hmm looks like they are already sold out of the 7.62 in a short barrel, it's been removed from the list.
2/13/2007 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
They will need to be converted and made 922R compliant


If you do the conversions, will you have spare parts available for us Vepr 1 owners?  I'd like to get a few spare hammers, triggers, and such, as well as a set of take-off walnut stocks.
2/15/2007 8:13:18 PM EDT
[#16]
I would just wait for a VEPR K.
2/16/2007 1:42:15 PM EDT
[#17]
I am so glad that I bought my VEPR K and VEPR KTR-03V before these abortions were put on the market.
2/16/2007 4:11:26 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I am so glad that I bought my VEPR K and VEPR KTR-03V before these abortions were put on the market.


These are the original Veprs.  It is the rifles you own that are the "abortions"  You just happen to like them better.  nothing wrong with that.

I like these better.  Walnut and steel for me, please
2/18/2007 12:21:54 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I am so glad that I bought my VEPR K and VEPR KTR-03V before these abortions were put on the market.


Me too. I would much rather pay less for a converted rifle than what an unconverted rifle cost. LOL

Still loven my crummy RA seconds rifles. VeprK and Vepr2.
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