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Saiga Conversion Thread (Page 3 of 8)
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Gratuitous waste of Wolf... You Tube of my AK101 |
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Here is my current progress... http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/LoN3R/wfl/c7e47861.jpg |
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My new (and 1st) Russian Saiga 12. Can't wait to shoot this baby. I debated back-n-forth between a Saiga 12 and a Benelli M4, but I chose the more evil of the two.
To me capacity wins over beauty. 
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Anti-gun liberals always hate guns, until one saves their life. But even then, some still don't get it...!!!
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Originally Posted By glockaboom:
Here's my conversion with some wood that I've never even seen produced before. Like a camo laminate. http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/16/105/644105256/n644105256_2491102_6183.jpg Interesting looking wood, any close up pics? Where did you find it? I've been looking for something like that for the PG and HG on a pistol build. |
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Here's a crappy picture of my conversion. i will try and get a better pic of it in the sun
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/seanbartsch/IMG_0088.jpg?t=1234059323 |
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Originally Posted By stickerd:
I see people asking if it's a "Plain receiver or "x" and "y' stamping", what does this mean? Are there any pictures of the two? They're referring to the coining of the receiver at the trigger and hammer pin holes that prevent them from stretching. On Saigas though when they refer to their receiver being Y'ed they're usually referring to the extra coining stamp in the location where the third axis pin should be. My Saiga doesn't have it but my WASR does. Here is an example of a "dimpled and Y'ed Saiga receiver" that people are usually talking about: 
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| Would it be legal to mount a rail like this http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merchant.mvc?page=MSP/PROD/AK-47_Handguards/SMC-KRAIL-M2 Instead of a tapco made hand guard. |
| Just got my Saiga 223 converted. Dont have a pic yet so that will come soon. What cracks me up is I was going to have a local gunsmith do the work as I was nervous and apprehensive about cutting and drilling on a new rifle. He said he couldnt do it as he didnt have a drill press or this and that. So I decided to give it a go. It took about 6-7 hours total. i had to do some grinding and use some yankee knowhow to get everything jiving but it works well and it was done with mostly standard tools and a nail for a punch. I will say a dremel is a must as are decent drill bits. The spot weld was the worst part and ate a few drill bits.All and all im stoked about doing it myself and hope to do the same with a 308 when finances/wife permit me to do so. Thanks to everyone who made a guide and left advice as it was all very helpfull. |
Finally got around to doing my "budget S12 conversion":
Base gun I bought from a friend in mid '06: $150 AGP mag: $50 shipped TAPCO T6 I had laying around: $30 a while ago Tromix DIY trigger guard: $45 TAPCO SAW grip: $20 Century garbage FCG I removed from a WASR years ago: $0 Total cost: ~$295 
When I have the money I will replace the FCG(very soon), upgrade furniture, and eventually have the barrel cut down to 18". |
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http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n398/renegadebuck/308%20bolt/IMG_0600.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n398/renegadebuck/adapter/IMG_0341.jpg .308 and .223 respectfully . Just basic builds |
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Am I doing this wrong? I looked at everyone else's and nobody else put the BHO back in, then some other people modified their selector switch for the BHO. I also noticed that most people have holes in their receiver where the original axles used to be. I tapped my original trigger axle pins with a 3mmx0.5 tap and put little screws in.
I put the BHO back in and it works, was I not supposed to put it in? I haven't shot it yet because I'm still waiting on furniture and rivets to arrive in the mail (AR pistol grip was temporary), but I can remove the BHO & trigger axles if they're not supposed to be there. http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/DSC02117.jpg Here it is with the bolt held open: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/DSC02118.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/DSC02121.jpg Edit: nevermind, I see some people have retained it. |
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Originally Posted By slomofo:
Am I doing this wrong? I looked at everyone else's and nobody else put the BHO back in, then some other people modified their selector switch for the BHO. I also noticed that most people have holes in their receiver where the original axles used to be. I tapped my original trigger axle pins with a 3mmx0.5 tap and put little screws in. I put the BHO back in and it works, was I not supposed to put it in? I haven't shot it yet because I'm still waiting on furniture and rivets to arrive in the mail (AR pistol grip was temporary), but I can remove the BHO & trigger axles if they're not supposed to be there. I retained the BHO with both my S12 and 7.62 conversions. As you know, it's a bit finicky to install, and takes some patience. I think most people just give up on it, deem it "unnecessary", and leave it off. For me, I thought it was worth a little bit of extra work to retain. |
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Originally Posted By bmonnig:
Originally Posted By slomofo:
Am I doing this wrong? I looked at everyone else's and nobody else put the BHO back in, then some other people modified their selector switch for the BHO. I also noticed that most people have holes in their receiver where the original axles used to be. I tapped my original trigger axle pins with a 3mmx0.5 tap and put little screws in. I put the BHO back in and it works, was I not supposed to put it in? I haven't shot it yet because I'm still waiting on furniture and rivets to arrive in the mail (AR pistol grip was temporary), but I can remove the BHO & trigger axles if they're not supposed to be there. I retained the BHO with both my S12 and 7.62 conversions. As you know, it's a bit finicky to install, and takes some patience. I think most people just give up on it, deem it "unnecessary", and leave it off. For me, I thought it was worth a little bit of extra work to retain. Haha yeah I am part of the "unnecessary BHO" club. I left mine off after conversion, and instead use Krebs Custom Safety lever (also fixes the 308 safety issue) with built in BHO notch... i never liked the original BHO on the gun anyway. I prefer being able to see it locked in and held open from the outside rather than play around with the little tab and hoping it catches. The Surefire mags also have a built in BHO feature that kicks in after the last round is fired and holds until magazine is removed. |
MAA billet stock MAA internal block ACE folder adapter set for left side Tapco double hook G2 FCG (modded for S12) Tapco SAW grip Tromix DIY trigger guard Russian front sight Gunfixer gas plug Etac puck Refinished in brownells aluma hyde 2 semi gloss black (Wife's cat would NOT stay out of the picture  )
Lots of AGP 10rd mags, and one MD20rd drum Runs flawless 
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Originally Posted By Gibbles:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/Gibbles1221/Firearms/S12folder.jpg MAA billet stock MAA internal block ACE folder adapter set for left side Tapco double hook G2 FCG (modded for S12) Tapco SAW grip Tromix DIY trigger guard Russian front sight Gunfixer gas plug Etac puck Refinished in brownells aluma hyde 2 semi gloss black (Wife's cat would NOT stay out of the picture )
Lots of AGP 10rd mags, and one MD20rd drum Runs flawless Saiga Protected by Sphinx |
How do you like magwell?
 Took me about 2 hours tonight. a good hour of that was messing with the FCG. MAA kit, worked like a charm |
No offense dude, but I think Subnet, Hardcase, and the gyrating stormtrooper pretty much got you on this one.
Originally Posted By Aimless:
[writes "sixgunsblazing" at the bottom of the "To Get" list on the wall next to the compu
Originally Posted By Aimless:
[writes "sixgunsblazing" at the bottom of the "To Get" list on the wall next to the compu
thanks, Ron |
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4228/fdesaiga.jpg thanks, Ron Very nice. What kind of stock adapter is that? I'm interesting in replacing my crappy TAPCO T6. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138:
Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4228/fdesaiga.jpg thanks, Ron Very nice. What kind of stock adapter is that? I'm interesting in replacing my crappy TAPCO T6. It's from VLTOR. It's rock solid and has the QD mounts on it. Not cheap but well worth the money. thanks, Ron |
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My latest conversion.
7.62x39 
I've got a couple of 5.45x39s left to do. conversion video someone posted |
Retired to the cold North country.
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4228/fdesaiga.jpg thanks, Ron Any details on this gun? |
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What front sight post fits Saigas other than the AK74? I like the slant brake look better. (I did a 74 FSP on the last Saiga and didn't care for the flash hider at all). I tried installing a Russian Type III front sight post as well as a Romanian today and neither of them fit. They just slid down the barrel because the barrel was too thin. I ended up cutting the front of the sight post and moving the entire unit forward about an inch, then modifying the post to take the muzzle brake retainer pin and spring. I don't want to leave it this way forever, I want a proper front sight post.
This is what I ended up with: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/4eb8b977.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/43ec514f.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/f736343d.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/slomofo562/Guns/9f420a75.jpg A front sight post, pistol grip, buttstock, and paint job seem to be the only things holding me back from completion. |
I couldn't get a definite answer on front sight post, so I just stuck with the original. Here's the finished product:
I ended up shaving the four holes on the sides by welding them shut, then I welded shut three holes on the bottom (one hole under trigger guard), then I welded the original Saiga trigger guard to the original Saiga mag release, riveted the rear trigger guard tang in place, filed down the mag release, riveted in a bullet guide, sandblasted the entire thing, parkerized it, and powdercoated afterwards. 
922(r) - Trigger, Hammer, Disconnector, Piston, Muzzle brake, mag follower. |
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Originally Posted By Tram:
Here's my latest conversion.. It's not 100% complete, but it's shooting great.. :) http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/scarylaundrymonster/Saiga%2012/DSC_0243.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/scarylaundrymonster/Saiga%2012/DSC_0248.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/scarylaundrymonster/Saiga%2012/DSC_0250.jpg I like it.....looks good 
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