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5/12/2008 6:02:28 PM EDT
Hey All,

I have a pair of Saigas and have some questions

(1) First gun has the pistol grip modification, but does not have a feedramp.  I have the option to either

(A) add Danzig feedramp then modify existing 5.56 magazines

or

(B) use Surefire Saiga USA made 30 round mags.

I do like that I get 3 USA 922r parts with the Surefire mags, but the cost per mag is a real drag.

First question

Is it better / more reliable to go with (B) the Surefire - Saiga 5.56 mags with their built in feedramp?

or

If it is better to go with (A) a High Cap conversion of existing 5.56 mags?

Second Question

If I go with the Magazine conversion (A), what is considered the BEST magazine for use on 5.56 saigas?

(a) Grind Steel E. German 5.56 Wiegers

(b) Modify Saiga for unground Steel E. German 5.56 Wiegers

(c) Grind Bulgarian 5.56 Polys

(d) Modify Saiga for unground Bulgarian 5.56 Polys

(e) Grind Israeli 5.56 Orlite Galils

(f) Grind & Fit Galil to M-16 mag adapter so I can use AR-15 magazines

I have two unbuilt Galil magazine adapters, but I have heard that they do not function reliably - I'd like to hear the opinion of anyone who has / is running this set up.

I hate the idea of having to grind the existing magazines I have to fit an individual gun, as I think it would be better to modify the gun to run on existing "stock" magazines, rather than grind the magazines to fit an individual gun.

As I have two Saigas, I worry that I may have differences between the mags working between the two guns.

I'd sure like to hear the experiences of those who know / have been there done that.

Let me know!

BIGGER_HAMMER


5/12/2008 6:18:27 PM EDT
[#1]
You can probably find your answers here

223 section on forum.saiga-12.com

Thread on using a Galil mag adaptor in a 223 Saiga
5/13/2008 9:32:39 AM EDT
[#2]
I say modify the rifle to use either unmodified Bulgys or unmodified weigers.

That way you can have mag compatibility with other 5.56 AKs.

I'd forget about the galil mag adaptor.
I hear they weren't 100% in a Galil.
If you look at a M-16 mag, you can see that there is no way to get the mag high enough so that the top round is in the same position as an AK mag.
You would have to ramp the round up at a pretty sharp angle.
Could it feed, maybe.

I don't have the thing together right now, but my dimpled Saiga will accept:
Weigers
Bulgarians
Yugo M-95 (the best, but you need to grind part of the crossmember as well)
Polish
AK-74

I've got three different types of 5.56 AKs.

Yugo M-95, Saiga, and SAR-3
The Yugo and the Saiga can fit any 5.56 mag I own as well as the converted AK74s.
The Sar-3 can only use Weigers and AK-74 mags.

I really like the M-95 mags.

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