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Posted: 1/7/2017 10:49:12 AM EDT
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Picked up a new project at the last local gun show. This SA85M was sitting neglected and I picked it up for $500 with three surplus mags. I've never had a Hungarian rifle and the quality seemed like a step up from the Romanian offerings. The #'s match on Bolt, BCG, trunion, and top cover. The gas tube looks to be original but, is not matching(I know the lever is unlocked).
I was surprised to see that it appears to have an AMD65 HG retainer with the nubs inside for aligning the sheet metal HG. There is a strange spacer bushing in the FCG group inside the trigger to one side of the disco. Is this how the Huns modified the FCG for semi? Some previous owner didn't clean after shooting corrosive and I found some light pitting is on the piston . I am on the fence with how far I want to go with modifications. I ordered up a US made Beech stock,dog bone grip, a takeoff piston, etc. from Clearview Inv. that was on sale. The stocks have the swivel pocket on the side and are not 100% correct but, I'm hoping the quality is workable for the $30. I have a Hungarian leather sling and G2 in the parts bin to round out most of the assembly. Can anyone point me in the right direction for finishing the stock set? I have never worked with beech. I may look to swap the FSB, GB, and HG retainer in the future. If I go down that road, are EG parts the best substitutes? 
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The gas tube is the one originally refinished and used for your rifle. The gas tubes typically are not number-matching and neither is the barrel. The lower HG retainer is correct - its the one they used for everything after they started producing the AKM63 Note the lower hand guard is relieved for the pins. The AMD65 also used the AKM63 vented steel forearm and front pistol grip. I wouldn't replace the gas piston - sounds like the light pitting is not bad enough to put in a non-original part, and its a lot of trouble to make that swap and do it right.
Just curious, why would you even think about tearing the front end apart to change out the retainer which is correct for the gun and putting on a bayonet lug? If you leave it alone and shoot it, you'll find you have an excellent, straight factory-built AK that was imported with all its original parts. Once you start monkeying with it, you'll have to comply with 922r and also change out the trigger/hammer/disconnector for a Tapco set. Believe me, I went down that road and regretted it. You could already flip the gun and get another one with the features you want, so maybe that would be better than ruining it. Hungarian wood doesn't have a 'finish' - it is oiled. I use Ballistol to maintain and clean it which is all you have to do. If you do remove any of the original wood, hang on to it in case you change your mind in the future. It has gotten expensive, even that thumbhole stock. |
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Thank you for your reply. I enjoy and shoot my Akm's. I have enjoyed hunting down the parts to bring them back as close as possible to military trim. I don't plan on flipping the rifles for a profit and suspect that when assembled with the proper components and furniture, that their value would be on par with an original "Ban-era" rifle. My thought was going to an AK63 Hg retained to keep the index pins from mauling other HG's if I swap the furniture around. Blitz |
| Its easy to relieve any wood or plastic hand guard for the pins. My point is that a factory-built rifle has become highly sought-after these days. All you have to do is remove and replace the gas block and front sight and its not original anymore. What this means is its a nice straight AK now with the original factory semi-auto receiver and military barrel. The AKs you can buy now have various USA-made parts including receivers and barrels, and they usually are not straight when they get through with them. |
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Its his rifle bought with his money.
If he wants to make it as close as possible to original military configuration using original FEG militsary parts thats his choice. That rifle was fuddlemucked to get imported in the first place. The reason prices spiked on this model is couse folks want to De-ban them and have as close as possible military configuration. Youd have a fit if you looked in my safe. |
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ruin? improve? make correct?
more than one way to see the same thing. again, these post 89 firearms were bastardized to get imported. that model would not exist in that configuration if not for US import regs. If the work done is of high quality and using correct military parts for that model, in my eyes, that is making it "correct". Im not trying to educate you, just saying your opinion is not the same as everyone elses, and is not "correct" for everyone, neither is mine, obviously. |
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Debanned my SA85m (with short gas tube) using ironwood stock set and tapco FCG. No regrets at all. I can give you step by step instructions on making the furniture match the original oil rubbed finish. |
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