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9/26/2006 6:30:30 AM EDT
yesterday i was on the Arsenal web page and observed by great surprise that a new stamped varient has been released.  Basically a new version of the 105 with a 223 chamber and 100 series left side folding stock.

850.00 for the scope side plate modle seems a little spendy for a stamped receiver. I am glad i picked up a SA-M5 no ban for under 680.00 six months ago which makes the 106 look over priced or over rated for a stamped job.  
9/26/2006 3:12:58 PM EDT
[#1]
My SLR-105A1R cost me $550. A russian AK-100 sidefold stock and hardware cost me $175 and a 8 month wait.  To have the stock installed by inrange it's going to cost me $250-$300.  That totals $975 for the same exact thing the SLR-106 offers...but in 5.56.  They'll be available for $775ish with the scope rail.  That makes them a deal.  My SLR-105 is nothingbut quality and I expect the SLR-106 to be the same.  People have complained that the asking price is too much but I ask them this... where else could you get a quality noban stamped 5.56 with a Ak-100 folder before Arsenal conjured their SLR-106?  Nowhere.  Food for thought...

CMS
9/26/2006 11:13:05 PM EDT
[#2]
I paid 650.00 for my SLR-105A1 R version and having the samething with a folding stock and 223 rem chamber for 200.00 dollars more is a little over the top.

I was under the impression that the stamped versions were going to make Arsenal more competitive in the market but it looks like Arsenal droped the high end quality of the Milled receivers and replaced them with a stampings for the higher profit margin.  
9/27/2006 11:12:43 AM EDT
[#3]

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I paid 650.00 for my SLR-105A1 R version and having the samething with a folding stock and 223 rem chamber for 200.00 dollars more is a little over the top.

I was under the impression that the stamped versions were going to make Arsenal more competitive in the market but it looks like Arsenal droped the high end quality of the Milled receivers and replaced them with a stampings for the higher profit margin.  


I think prices will be around $780.00 for the SLR-106FR.  The extra $130.00 for the folding stock...installed, is not really a bad price.  
9/27/2006 4:14:55 PM EDT
[#4]
.223 Wolf is also cheaper than 5.45 right now...about $125 per thousand.  Thats a savings of $25 per case over a SLR-105.
9/28/2006 6:25:22 AM EDT
[#5]
Honestly as soon as i can pull some green together i will be buying one of these 106 models. I love shooting the SAM-5 and the 5.56 make the shooting experience vary nice. 223 Reminton is always easier and more plentiful than 5.45 which is a hoot to shoot but its getting way to elusive and expensive.  I am glad i bought a bunch of the 30 rd. bugarians when they were cheap.  
9/28/2006 12:41:08 PM EDT
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9/29/2006 12:50:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Damn... that picture is HOT.
9/30/2006 5:39:48 PM EDT
[#8]
I just wish Arsenal had provided a fixed stock model and lowered the price by $100.00.  The 106 comes with a 5rd mag and if you want to purchase a 30 rd mag, you will have to go through KVAR which has exclusive rights to sell the mags or thats my understanding???
10/2/2006 1:59:55 PM EDT
[#9]
You will get One 30 rounder

3 of those Mags, in the box with the Gun, would be nice...............but, I am only Dreaming!

ETA...............Looks like they are sending out the gun with a tiny 5 rounder....what a shame !!!!!!
10/2/2006 4:56:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Mine actually only came with a five rounder. YMMV.
10/2/2006 10:46:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Contacted my dealer to special order one of these SLR 106 models with the scope rail.  Dealer contacted sales represenative at Lew Thorton's which advised the 106 series had not been released or arrived yet, but should soon be in stock sometime next week.  
My dealer went ahead and pre ordered one for the first release date to beat the rush.

By the time i paid dealer cost plus eight percent mark up and Washington State sales tax, total cost was hitting right up to 914.00 smackers. ooouch !!    
10/3/2006 3:41:32 PM EDT
[#12]
$914 for a stamped gun................... YIKES!  Seems like the only people that are coming out ahead is Arsenal.  It doesn't even come with one 30 rounder either.  They can keep them for that price.
10/3/2006 5:00:03 PM EDT
[#13]
With a SAM 5 already in my possession I've decided to pass. I'm an Arsenal fan but not at the price they want. Hope the SLR-106 has a better finish than the SLR-105 did. Good luck, fellas!
Misc
10/4/2006 2:15:12 PM EDT
[#14]

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Contacted my dealer to special order one of these SLR 106 models with the scope rail.  Dealer contacted sales represenative at Lew Thorton's which advised the 106 series had not been released or arrived yet, but should soon be in stock sometime next week.  
My dealer went ahead and pre ordered one for the first release date to beat the rush.

By the time i paid dealer cost plus eight percent mark up and Washington State sales tax, total cost was hitting right up to 914.00 smackers. ooouch !!    


My dealer ordered me an SLR 106 from Hortons and it arrived today.  

Only problem is it doesn't have the side rail which is probably going to be a show stopper for me. I'm waiting to hear if Hortons has any with the rail in stock.

I understand the stock is nato length which I dont care for and i am also told that it is interchangable with the metal sidefolder by simply removing a pin.
10/4/2006 6:32:04 PM EDT
[#15]
I thought the stock was Warsaw pact length?  Has to lock into a standard latch.
10/4/2006 7:27:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Got mine today. The Stock works Very Nice.
10/5/2006 5:16:11 AM EDT
[#17]
The stock is not "NATO" length.

Nobody seems to know what in the hell they're talking about over here anymore...
10/5/2006 6:18:52 AM EDT
[#18]
i want one, but for what they're charging, they can keep it. an AK, whether stamped or not, isn't worth that much.
10/5/2006 8:56:12 AM EDT
[#19]
Mine's on order.  Hey it's all what you're willing to pay.  I bought a HK-91 a few years ago.  That was $1700 for a stamped sheet metal gun...same as the SLR-106.  I paid it though because I wanted a real HK.  The SLR-106 is actually a rare rifle considering quality stamped 5.56 AK's are few and far between.  The SAR-3/ WASR-3  is really the only other option.  If ya wanna play you gotta pay.  To have a SLR-105 in the same configuration will cost you $300 for the stock set and another $300 for installation.  That's $1200ish if you paid $600 for your SLR-105.  I'll take $820 over $1200. Big difference!

CMS
10/5/2006 2:06:27 PM EDT
[#20]

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The stock is not "NATO" length.

Nobody seems to know what in the hell they're talking about over here anymore...


Do you know why I believed it was a Nato length buttstock? Because I fucking called Arsenal and THEY said it was. I assumed they knew what they were talking about.

Just placed a call again, this time was told it was "just under" Nato length. BTW Thekatar, how do you like your SLR-106?
10/6/2006 1:39:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Yes these guns are fairly spendy but it you really want to step up to the next level you have to spend some bucks. I went and sold an original postban sam-7 NIB to a freind to finance this latest addition. I sure am glad now that i aquired two dozen  sam-5 magazines when they were under 18.00 ea as the latest price of 27.00 bucks really makes accessories for this line almost as bad as H&K.  
10/7/2006 2:00:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Can someone that has one comment on the finish? Same as the 105? I'm close to pulling the trigger on an order, but $800+ for a gun that needs a refinish out of the box isnt cool.
10/10/2006 12:59:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Mine came with the usual SLR-105 finish...  not entirely uniform, etc...  but I figure what the hell.  
10/11/2006 4:22:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Arsenal SLR-106FR w/Bulgarian flash hider and Krebs Custom AK-74 w/plum furniture...

10/13/2006 11:09:25 AM EDT
[#25]

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850.00 for the scope side plate modle seems a little spendy for a stamped receiver. I am glad i picked up a SA-M5 no ban for under 680.00 six months ago which makes the 106 look over priced or over rated for a stamped job.  



I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!
10/13/2006 11:29:45 AM EDT
[#26]

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The stock is not "NATO" length.

Nobody seems to know what in the hell they're talking about over here anymore...
you got that right
10/13/2006 11:40:02 AM EDT
[#27]

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I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!


This is limited production because of the folding stock. The MSRP for the upcoming 7.62mm stamped guns (non-folders) is listed as $695 and $650.
10/13/2006 12:56:52 PM EDT
[#28]

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I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!


This is limited production because of the folding stock. The MSRP for the upcoming 7.62mm stamped guns (non-folders) is listed as $695 and $650.


That's more like it.  I'll buy an SLR108 and put a TAPCO folder on it if I have to, but I ain't payin' no thousand bucks for one!
10/14/2006 8:59:06 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

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The stock is not "NATO" length.

Nobody seems to know what in the hell they're talking about over here anymore...
you got that right


Madhatter... stay off my log-in!  
10/15/2006 4:41:45 AM EDT
[#30]

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The stock is not "NATO" length.

Nobody seems to know what in the hell they're talking about over here anymore...
you got that right


Madhatter... stay off my log-in!  
dam sorry about that forgot who house i was at
10/23/2006 5:46:06 PM EDT
[#31]
So I to want to buy one of these, But why?  What is the hype of this model?  Please be kind and spell it out for me.  What variation of Ak-100 series does it represent?  What is the benefit?  Or is it just the look?  I like the look of the Ak-102 and the Ak-105, but like the 102 better because its 5.56.  Then sometimes I wish it were a 762, but I already have a SAS M7.  In all the Arsenal models I can see the extra $ for the side folding solid stock, especially if you bought a fixed version and just bought the folder kit alone without installing it, you would be almost as much as the 106.  Hey if Arsenal can bring real Bulgarian Ak's to the US, kudos to them.  These arent parts / kit guns, and Im not knockin them either (the Vectors are nice).  Thanks
10/24/2006 2:53:27 AM EDT
[#32]

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What variation of Ak-100 series does it represent?


AK-101 (full-size, 5.56)


What is the benefit?  


AK styling/reliability/manual of arms, combined with the plentiful and effective 5.56 cartridge. It's a no-brainer.





10/24/2006 8:31:53 AM EDT
[#33]
After as much as I like my SLR-106 I may have the spare Russian AK-100 stock and hardware installed on my SLR-105 and then pick up another AK-100 stock and a Arsenal SLR-107 when they come out and have it installed on that.  Then I'd have three identical rifles in three calibers. Would be a neat concept and which one I shot would just depend on which had cheaper ammo available.

CMS
10/26/2006 9:01:13 AM EDT
[#34]
How much are spare mags and where do you get the them?
10/30/2006 8:21:34 AM EDT
[#35]
soooo... I picked up my SLR-106F over the weekend. First thing I did was a detail-strip and inspection. This thing was way tight for an AK; gas tube lever had to be started out of its detent with a nylon punch, and the handguard retainer had to be similarly "coerced" to come off the lower HG. The release button for the folding stock was also very hard to depress; I imagine this will get easier with time/use.

Finish looks better than my SLR-105; blacker and more evenly applied.

Threads on the FSB are rough; the comp made a nasty crunching noise at one point when I was taking it off. Didn't see any damage to the threads afterward, but it was a little disconcerting.

Trigger pretty much sucks, which is disappointing for such an expensive rifle. I understand what Arsenal was trying to do, but they should've left well enough alone; the trigger in my SLR-105 rocks! Can the second stage be lightened up at all, or is it best just to chuck the whole assembly and put in a G2 or RSA instead?

Finally, I went to reassemble the gun and could not get the handguard retainer far enough onto the flanges of the lower HG to allow the locking lever to rotate. Ugh. Did I mention this gun was tight?  Oh well, it's gonna get a railed forearm anyway, so I'll just leave it off for now.

This gun will make a great companion to my SBR'ed SLR-105. Can't wait to shoot it!







11/4/2006 5:21:55 PM EDT
[#36]
I picked up an SLR 106 FR at Jensen Arms today.  It feels...different, compared to my VEPR.  Not necessarily better or worse, but different.  The price was $819.95.  He had only one of the clear 30 round waffle mags left, and it was $29.95 (the gun came with one five round mag only).  What's a good source for the magazines?
11/5/2006 1:11:48 PM EDT
[#37]
First - I got my 106 about a month ago... it is WONDERFUL - if I could afford a second & third right now?  I would get it...

Now -

"Finish looks better than my SLR-105; blacker and more evenly applied."

Hate to say this - I've striped both my 105 and my 106.  The paint on the 106 is FAR WORSE than the 105... I could take off 106 paint with simple Acetone:  I had to use ZSTRIP on the 105.

Eh?  Why strip the paint at all?

Because, BOTH rifles are wonderful, precise works of art... they are really good.  But Bulgy paint is terible.  And it's getting worse :)  DO NOT let that stop you from buying at least one of these GREAT rifles... just understand that the paint melts if you sneeze on it :)  Fortunately - this is EASILY fixed.
11/5/2006 2:55:17 PM EDT
[#38]
This is built essentially to AK-101 specs, correct?
11/6/2006 9:57:07 PM EDT
[#39]

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This is built essentially to AK-101 specs, correct?


Yes and no.
11/7/2006 2:43:57 AM EDT
[#40]

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This is built essentially to AK-101 specs, correct?


Yes and no.


What's the "no" part?
11/13/2006 4:45:07 PM EDT
[#41]
The no part is, if I recall, that a facotry Russian 101 has a smooth top cover, not like a milled type, but smooth with the little overhang for the selector like a stamped cover.  I have read some Saiga's have this sort of cover (is this correct?).  All century series AK's have this supposedly.

Also, the muzzle brake is different on the new Russian rifles.  Looks like a 74 brake, but has slightly different external contours.

These are the differences that immediately come to mind.  I have never seen a real AK-101, just what I have read and picked up from other discussions.  But I have two 106FR rifles, and though I had a quirk with one that was worked out with Arsenal, both are great, and one is on its way to be SBR'd into a 102 clone.  

Might want to check the K-Var fourms.  Arsenal just announced a price increase.  Seems the trend with many due to who knows the reasons...
11/19/2006 8:07:25 AM EDT
[#42]
Just looks like any other AK now. I'll keep and save my money for the milled one's.
And that depends on thair price when they come back. Most likely use these stamped ones to springboard the price of the milled ones.
11/25/2006 5:55:47 PM EDT
[#43]
I purchased a NIB 106FR. I had to return it to ARSENAL due to problems. For the $$ spent, it should have been a bit better.
11/26/2006 3:59:34 AM EDT
[#44]

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I purchased a NIB 106FR. I had to return it to ARSENAL due to problems. For the $$ spent, it should have been a bit better.


Lionheart what issues was you haveing .. Thanks warDawg
11/26/2006 10:11:09 AM EDT
[#45]
Crooked parts was my only problem. I couldn't sight it in because of that. I did shoot it, and it performed fine. Still for the $, I shouldn't of had to send it back, but I have heard of others who had the same problems, and worse. I hope Arsenal will start showing their 106 the same kind of attention to quality they due for their milled rifles.
I was told it could be a couple of months before I get it back.
11/26/2006 12:46:37 PM EDT
[#46]

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I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!


This is limited production because of the folding stock. The MSRP for the upcoming 7.62mm stamped guns (non-folders) is listed as $695 and $650.


That's more like it.  I'll buy an SLR108 and put a TAPCO folder on it if I have to, but I ain't payin' no thousand bucks for one!

PAYING A GRAND IS WORTH IT FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUSH A BUTTON AND FOLD TO THE SIDE RATHER THAN A PLASTIC TAPCO HUNK OF SHI^.
11/26/2006 12:56:54 PM EDT
[#47]

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I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!


This is limited production because of the folding stock. The MSRP for the upcoming 7.62mm stamped guns (non-folders) is listed as $695 and $650.


That's more like it.  I'll buy an SLR108 and put a TAPCO folder on it if I have to, but I ain't payin' no thousand bucks for one!

PAYING A GRAND IS WORTH IT FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUSH A BUTTON AND FOLD TO THE SIDE RATHER THAN A PLASTIC TAPCO HUNK OF SHI^.



I actually think the TAPCO stock is pretty good.  I wish they had made it fold to the left, but the one on my WASR has been used quite a bit and shows very little wear and no signs its going to fail.
11/26/2006 9:25:48 PM EDT
[#48]

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I tend to agree.  Wasn't the whole point behind Arsenal going to stamped rifles an attempt to get the price down around $600?

If a stamped one is going to cost as much as a milled, I'll be even happier I got my milled ones already!


This is limited production because of the folding stock. The MSRP for the upcoming 7.62mm stamped guns (non-folders) is listed as $695 and $650.


That's more like it.  I'll buy an SLR108 and put a TAPCO folder on it if I have to, but I ain't payin' no thousand bucks for one!

PAYING A GRAND IS WORTH IT FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUSH A BUTTON AND FOLD TO THE SIDE RATHER THAN A PLASTIC TAPCO HUNK OF SHI^.



I actually think the TAPCO stock is pretty good.  I wish they had made it fold to the left, but the one on my WASR has been used quite a bit and shows very little wear and no signs its going to fail.

You also have to figure in that the tapco is fugly as hell and too long. First thing im going to do is rip that nato length folder off my 106 and put a metal one on. Damn nato crap is too long and makes bump firing from the shoulder difficult.
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