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7/23/2006 4:43:55 PM EDT
Last Friday night I ran across an Arsenal SAM-5 AK in 5.56mm at Surplus City in Feasterville, PA.  Having been on the lookout I snagged it in lieu of the Colt 6520 I was this close >< to buying.  Today I got the chance to shoot it at Wicen's Range in Furlong, PA.

According to the datestamp in the manualy, my SAM-5 was made in July 2005.  The manual states that it should have the Warsaw Pact length butt, while Arsenal's website says it should have the NATO butt.  My rifle has the longer, NATO butt, which I am going to replace.  Fit and finish are excellent, while the trigger is outstanding.  It's got a little bit of creep but it is light.  The muzzle is threaded and fitted with a removable fish gill muzzlebrake.  I may replace this with a flash suppressor.

Before leaving the house this morning I field stripped the rifle, lubricated it, and ran a patch through the bore to remove any excess oil.

The SAM-5 came with a single Bulgarian 30 round black polymer waffle magazine.  I ordered a half dozen clear Bulgarian 20s from K-Var so hopefully they'll arrive soon.

I ran 100 rounds of Wolf Gold M-193 Ball (made by Prvi Partizan) through the SAM-5.  Early on in the first magazine, twice the trigger failed to reset until I tapped it with my finger.  My SLR-101SG did the same thing and has been flawless for several hundred rounds since then, so I figure that there must've been a burr than needed to be smoothed out.

Aside from the two aforementioned trigger reset failures the rifle performed perfectly.  Accuracy at 100 yards was so-so: I could keep all my shots inside the black of a 100 yard smallbore target.  That's about as good as I can do with open sights on a gun with such a short sight radius.

Arsenal states in the manual that their rifles are laser boresighted at 100M.  If so, somebody putzed with the sights afterwards, because while windage was very close, elevation was about 10" high at 100 yards.  One and a half turns to raise the front post fixed that.

The Wolf Gold ammo is pretty clean.  Very little fouling made its way back into the action and the bore didn't require much cleaning.  I plan to buy more of this ammo.

When I tried to remove the gas tube I needed a hammer and brass punch to move the retention lever.  I discovered why when I tried to put the gas tube back on.  The surface on the top of the gas tube where it's cammed into place by the retainer needed to be beveled more.  A minute with my Dremel and a grinding stone fixed that, but I have to wonder how the factory got the gas tube on withouth marring the finish, something I was not able to do.  Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that my rifle came from the factory this way, given Arsenal's reputation and my previous experience with my SLR-101SG.

Overall, the SAM-5 is a very nice rifle.  I had a couple of minor malfunctions very early on but that issue seems to have been related to break-in.  The gas tube problem was annoying but easily fixed.  Once I receive the shorter butt stock and extra magazines, this may become my go-to rifle.

7/27/2006 5:58:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Remember, your rifle has a 1/7 twist barrel. Using M193 ball, it isnt surprising your rounds didnt impact the point of aim. Try some M855 or SS109 and see if that alters the point of impact.

The trigger reset thing was probably just break in. Sticky paint and all that ;)
7/27/2006 6:28:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been eyeing up that SAM-5 at Surplus City for some time.  I kept hesitating because a 5.56 AK just doesn't seem right.

Anyway, I picked up one of the new AMD-65s instead.  Enjoy!
7/28/2006 9:05:26 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Remember, your rifle has a 1/7 twist barrel. Using M193 ball, it isnt surprising your rounds didnt impact the point of aim. Try some M855 or SS109 and see if that alters the point of impact.


Oh, I got it sighted in fine, just took some adjustment of the front sight.  The manual that came with the rifle says the twist is 1 turn in 240mm, which is about 9.4 inches.  I'm going to measure the twist myself because I've read previously that it's a 1:7" twist.


The trigger reset thing was probably just break in. Sticky paint and all that ;)


No doubt.  Since it happened on my Arsenal SLR-101SG as well, but hasn't manifested itself in the several hundred succedding rounds, I'm not concerned.

7/28/2006 5:52:27 PM EDT
[#4]
As far as the windage is concerned, My SLR105R was off 4 inches at just 50 yards. The manual ststes ""Your SLR-105 is already zeroed. Using the latest laser technology and calibrating equipment, your SLR 105 is zeroed to 100 meters on a special purpose designed calibration bench." Probably an old piece of plywood nailed to a couple of saw horses with the gun sitting on a JC Penny catalog. Horse hockey I say. Invest $10 bucks in a Tapco sight tool. Besides "Boresighting" is hardly science, I once had a Leupold scope mounted in Burris rings & one piece mount on my favorite bolt gun, my local shop mounted it and boresighted (I know the guy well, watched him do it) and it missed an 8 1/2"x11" piece of paper at 50 yards.  Enjoy your rifle, wish I had an AK in .223.
7/29/2006 10:56:55 AM EDT
[#5]
It's a 1/7" twists.  Arsenal has acknowledged a "missprint"/carryover from their SA M7.  The SA M5s are discontinued.  Mine came with a smoke clear 30 rd mag.  I replaced the shark gill muzzle brake with an AK500 adaptor and an AK133 flash hider.  It will hold a 1.5-2" group at 50 yds if I do my part using iron sights.  I got it because ammo is everywhere.    
7/31/2006 4:35:58 AM EDT
[#6]
How much was it and do they have any left ?
8/1/2006 6:32:03 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
How much was it and do they have any left ?


$650 and that was the only one he had in 5.56.  He had a couple more in 7.62 but Rob tells me that the Arsenal AKs tend to fly off the shelf when he gets them in.
8/1/2006 9:01:18 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How much was it and do they have any left ?


$650 and that was the only one he had in 5.56.  He had a couple more in 7.62 but Rob tells me that the Arsenal AKs tend to fly off the shelf when he gets them in.


Man that is a really great price for a SAM 5 .

I was thinking of getting another .223 AK due to the prices on 7.62 right now. Have a SAR 3 and Norinco 84s at the moment .

I was looking at the SAM5's or a Saiga and convert it to use Galil mags .  

 
8/6/2006 6:01:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Here is my SAM5

$599 OTD about 2 months ago. Still havent fired it...




FSB work done by AKUSA.

8/8/2006 8:59:54 PM EDT
[#10]
you are going to be real happy with that rifle, it is begging to be fired
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