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10/16/2006 1:13:59 PM EDT
Hey hey AK crowd, I had a few questions for you:

Are the Vector Arms made AK's quality rifles?
Will these rifles generaly last a life time? Are parts known to break? The charging handle won't snap off after a while will it?
Will these accept the ACE receiver blocks for M4 stocks?
Vector Arms Side Folder Rifle




Thanks
10/16/2006 1:27:24 PM EDT
[#1]
ihad a vector underfolder. only put about 500 flawless rounds through it. kinda wish i still had it. it was a quality firearm. i did not like the underfolding stock.
10/16/2006 2:03:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Vector ...
10/17/2006 5:56:22 AM EDT
[#3]
Mine's great so far. It looks to be very well made.

Sam
10/17/2006 11:23:35 AM EDT
[#4]
I have a Vector underfolder.  It is a very nice rifle.  Very accurate and has a nice trigger.  I am very happy with the gun.  They also have a 5 year warranty and have very good customer service if there are any problems.  I would recommend them.



Ron
10/17/2006 12:59:03 PM EDT
[#5]
I have heard nothing but good about them
10/17/2006 1:08:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Vectors are very very good rifles...quality stuff with great customer service....I have sold all my other rifles and the only thing I have held onto is my Benelli M1 super and my Vector AK....they will most definately out live you...and accuracy is outstanding.....dont hesitate to buy one
10/17/2006 1:41:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Vector A+++                   for an AK .

Last one , I gave it the ''Green String" and the gas cyl. got fubar'd .

Double hook triggers .
10/17/2006 3:31:16 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Vector ...


Not too many people have problems with Vector...and those that buy though Atlantic Firearms are almost guaranteed not to have any problems!

CMS
10/17/2006 4:16:47 PM EDT
[#9]
yes...would like to know why there was one negative reply about Vector as I researched alot before buying mine and seriously did not come across one negative post about Vector....so go ahead and spill it for us
10/17/2006 8:36:44 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
yes...would like to know why there was one negative reply about Vector as I researched alot before buying mine and seriously did not come across one negative post about Vector....so go ahead and spill it for us


+1  Never heard anything bad about them.  What was the problem?
10/18/2006 3:39:11 AM EDT
[#11]
My Vector is mucked up as well--every time I pull the trigger it fires?
10/18/2006 6:39:33 AM EDT
[#12]
Vector UF would NOT be the logical best choice over a century UF. why?


Vector UF costs $150 MORE than the century UF ($450 VS $600)

Vector uses ultra super junk cheap plastic fore-ends VS. teak wood

Vector uses rom parts,  Century uses the BEST Yugo parts.........


Vector receiver is nowhere NEAR as beefy as the 1.65mm RPK reciever thickness of the century....

Vector has a wierdo finish, not original. .....

Vector barrel not as good as that contracted out by Century.......

Century gun for MUCH LESS $$$ is a MUCH MUCH BETTER GUN......period, no ifs or buts.....

i dont care if you LIKE vector.....but you cant deny the items listed above....
10/18/2006 6:46:02 AM EDT
[#13]
that side folder looks as 'neat' as a bloated beached whale.

very dumb looking stock.


for christs sake , get an underfolder............ you can sell an UF 10 times over before you can sell a side folder.


geez


10/18/2006 8:35:51 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Vector UF would NOT be the logical best choice over a century UF. why?


Vector UF costs $150 MORE than the century UF ($450 VS $600) No arguement there

Vector uses ultra super junk cheap plastic fore-ends VS. teak wood Vector does offer wood furniture. Not saying its great, but its still wood

Vector uses rom parts,  Century uses the BEST Yugo parts......... Vector says Bulgarian and Hungarian.... not Romainian.


Vector receiver is nowhere NEAR as beefy as the 1.65mm RPK reciever thickness of the century.... 1mm is the standard AK receiver. Personally, I think the AKM does not have a problem with "weak receivers"

Vector has a wierdo finish, not original. ..... There are several different finishes I've seen on AKs, and Vector's is the same in that regard

Vector barrel not as good as that contracted out by Century....... Chrome-lined on the Vector as a AK should have. No chrome on the Yugo. There is no non chrome-lined AK barrel that is better than a CLed AK barrel

Century gun for MUCH LESS $$$ is a MUCH MUCH BETTER GUN......period, no ifs or buts..... Very subjective on what is best around here.

i dont care if you LIKE vector.....but you cant deny the items listed above.... Looks like I did
10/18/2006 10:46:20 AM EDT
[#15]
I have one of both a Century Yugo M70B2 UF and a Vector Polish UF. Both are great guns. You can`t go wrong with either.


That being said if you want something a little different get the Yugo.
10/18/2006 10:48:58 AM EDT
[#16]
i've sold a couple of vectors, both full wooden stocked and they were both beautiful firearms, have no idea if they went bang or not but i was surprised at their very nice trigger pulls..................i'd buy one.
10/18/2006 11:15:20 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
i've sold a couple of vectors, both full wooden stocked and they were both beautiful firearms, have no idea if they went bang or not but i was surprised at their very nice trigger pulls..................i'd buy one.



i wouldnt mind buying a vector either, ....if it came STANDARD with wood, and the price was $450

ive owned Vector Mini UZIs.......they worked fine.....


you just dont get as much with the Vector UF as you do with the Century UF.

if you clean your rifle every blue moon, yuo dont need damn chrome lining.....so who cares. .....


you plan on shooting corrosive ammo thru it?
10/18/2006 11:17:34 AM EDT
[#18]
I don't plan on keeping the side folding stock.

I'll get the UF and just leave it stock for a truck gun or something.

The side folder will be made hella tactical.
10/18/2006 2:28:42 PM EDT
[#19]
your telling me you would rather have a CENTURY over a vector LOLOL!!!!!!   that is some funny stuff......I wouldnt buy any peice of shit that has century stamped on it....oh and Vector DOES have wood handguards(its right on the website) 1.0mm recievers are STANDARD(whats your beef there??, and they use armory USA recievers) barrels ARE chromlined...your yugo isnt....trigger is very very good.....finish, while not the best(its all opinion, for me best finish is NP3) is far from crap....much better than my arsenal I had where finish wiped off after first cleaning...vector finish is very strong......oh and um the parts that Vector uses are NOT Romanian...they are POLISH, some of the best stuff around.....so yea I can argue with what you said...because you evidentally didnt do your homework and have no clue as to what your talking about
10/18/2006 3:43:01 PM EDT
[#20]
I just bought my second Vector in a little over a year; the first was an underfolder and the latest is a fixed polymet (NATO length instead of Warsaw length ) and I'll buy another Vector again when I'm ready for a third.

Sounds to me like SigandGlocks is having a bad week.  My local funstore sells any and all of the Vector AKs, wood / polymer / UF / SF for $499 to the normal customer, less to repeat customers.  While I like the looks of the Yugos being sold by Century (and I've seen three in the last 24 hours), to my eyes the Vector is just, well, classier.  For an AK, that is!

But hey, S&G, to each your own.  Is this a great country or what?
10/18/2006 4:17:15 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Vector ...




Please, do elaborate, O wise one.
10/18/2006 5:27:27 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
your telling me you would rather have a CENTURY over a vector LOLOL!!!!!!   that is some funny stuff......I wouldnt buy any peice of shit that has century stamped on it....oh and Vector DOES have wood handguards(its right on the website) 1.0mm recievers are STANDARD(whats your beef there??, and they use armory USA recievers) barrels ARE chromlined...your yugo isnt....trigger is very very good.....finish, while not the best(its all opinion, for me best finish is NP3) is far from crap....much better than my arsenal I had where finish wiped off after first cleaning...vector finish is very strong......oh and um the parts that Vector uses are NOT Romanian...they are POLISH, some of the best stuff around.....so yea I can argue with what you said...because you evidentally didnt do your homework and have no clue as to what your talking about



Sad to say it but sigandglocks is a total troll (or at least is today)  check out ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=90577
10/18/2006 5:27:29 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
your telling me you would rather have a CENTURY over a vector LOLOL!!!!!!   that is some funny stuff......I wouldnt buy any peice of shit that has century stamped on it....oh and Vector DOES have wood handguards(its right on the website) 1.0mm recievers are STANDARD(whats your beef there??, and they use armory USA recievers) barrels ARE chromlined...your yugo isnt....trigger is very very good.....finish, while not the best(its all opinion, for me best finish is NP3) is far from crap....much better than my arsenal I had where finish wiped off after first cleaning...vector finish is very strong......oh and um the parts that Vector uses are NOT Romanian...they are POLISH, some of the best stuff around.....so yea I can argue with what you said...because you evidentally didnt do your homework and have no clue as to what your talking about



Centuries el-Sucko past reputation is well known to myself as well as most, however that has no bearing on the quality of the Century UF...

Get it thru your thick SKULL, Century makes NOTHING on the Yugo UF.

Nodakspud makes the reciever.......

US company NOT CENTURY makes the barrels..............

tapco makes the trigger...............

most all other parts are YUGO ..............


*****i dont shoot corrosive ammo nor fail to clean my guns......your chrome lining is redundant. A non-chrome lined is slightly more accurate, although out of an AK47, thats doubtful.


so now what ????? your left without a POINT, as they say "a pot to pee in".


Ive seen Vectors AK UFs.........theyre not half as nice or beefy as the Century UFs......not to mention HIGHER.

Century RPK thick 1.65mm reciever...........

try again.
10/18/2006 6:12:16 PM EDT
[#24]
Wow!  Just read S&Gs comments on the link, and I must say he's having a really bad day here.  

Wasn't it GHW Bush that said "Can't we all just get along?"  Seems like an appropriate comment at this juncture

(Actually, he sounds an awful lot like my 17 year old stepdaughter when she's ticked off at her friends and wants to take it out on anyone who seemingly disagrees with her.)

Mods: if I'm out of line here, feel free to say so.  I can live with the consequences of my actions.
10/18/2006 6:16:20 PM EDT
[#25]
I don't shoot corrosive out of my AK either, but it is a FACT that chrome lined barrels LAST LONGER(up to 3 times longer than non-lined with proper care). That is why most of the major military forces of the world use rifles with chrome lined barrels, including the US military which hasn't used corrosive ammo since the '50's. When your non-lined barrel is completely shot out, I'll still be shooting my chrome lined AK with the original barrel.
10/18/2006 6:16:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Back to the question posed by the OP, although I have only had my Vectors for about a year, they've done everything I've ever asked them to do.  The only malfunction I've ever had happened when I was resting the mag itself on a bench to shoot and I had a misfeed.  Other than that, they have just kept on working like I expect them to.

I, for one, would unreservedly recommend a Vector if the price fits in your budget.  If you've got more, get an Arsenal.  If you want to pay less, get a CAI.  Functionality seems to be, based on hundreds of posts here and on other boards, pretty much a given for the AK platform.  You pay more for fit and finish, not for reliability.

YMMV, but that's my not so humble opinion.
10/18/2006 7:17:39 PM EDT
[#27]
Vector rocks!  I own 5 of them in different configurations.  Get one you wont be sorry.  

Especially if you go through atlanticfirearms.com  Blaine is awesome to deal with.

+1 for vectors
+1 for Blaine

Only bad thing is vector's wood furniture varies....ask Blaine to pick one out for you with nice wood.
10/18/2006 7:18:09 PM EDT
[#28]
Vector rocks!  I own 5 of them in different configurations.  Get one you wont be sorry.  

Especially if you go through atlanticfirearms.com  Blaine is awesome to deal with.

+1 for vectors
+1 for Blaine

Only bad thing is vector's wood furniture varies....ask Blaine to pick one out for you with nice wood.
10/18/2006 7:24:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
but it is a FACT that chrome lined barrels LAST LONGER(up to 3 times longer than non-lined with proper care).quote]


thats utter rubbish. no offense.
10/18/2006 7:26:22 PM EDT
[#30]
try again??  I did.....and shot everything down that you posted first...with FACT....like I said do your research when you talk about Vector AKs not one thing you said was correct....try again troll.

theoneinthemask...trust me brother, go and look at a vector , you wont be let down.....I would rather have a great AK for $100 bucks more....then have to worry about some piece of shit century arms rifle and if it is going to blow up in my face....oh and SIG you know why? you nailed it on the head...there rifles were SHITTY at best!!! and for how many years???? what is the general feedback about century rifles here boys....SHIT  and why because they have put out tons of....you guessed it SHIT....this type of reputation doesnt happen over night  it takes lots of screw up and years of SHIT to get a name like that.....and thats what everybody thinks when they hear Century rifles....I dont give to shits if its the best yugo parts kit around...if its stamped CENTURY I want no part of it......how many bad things have you read about Vector???   I rest my case
10/18/2006 7:33:26 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
try again??  I did.....and shot everything down that you posted first...with FACT....like I said do your research when you talk about Vector AKs not one thing you said was correct....try again troll




nothing i said was right? well thats a glaring lie

A: Fact, the Vector is 1mm,  the century is 1.65mm receiver.

B: Vector is significantly higher in cost.......FACT.

C: others have complained about ( i see one above also) that vectors wood fore-end is not the best in the world. ....


I like vector, have 2 of their shirts....own 3 of their UZIs..........i never said Vector was bad, etc etc.


ive only claimed that $ for $ , despite centuries past history (bad)........that the Century UF is by FAR a better gun and cost as well.
10/18/2006 7:34:14 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Quoted:
but it is a FACT that chrome lined barrels LAST LONGER(up to 3 times longer than non-lined with proper care).quote]


thats utter rubbish. no offense.



Really? Then explain to me why EVERY SINGLE FIREARM THAT IS STANDARD ISSUE WITH THE US MILITARY HAS A CHROME LINED BARREL?
Gee, could it be because it increases barrel life? YES!!!!

Edited for spelling.
10/18/2006 7:38:11 PM EDT
[#33]
S&G look brother your wrong....you look wrong....and now everyone thinks your a troll....do yourself a favor...zip it......thanks
10/18/2006 7:40:25 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Really? Then explain to me why EVERY SINGLE FIREARM THAT IS STANDARD ISSUE WITH THE US MILITARY HAS A CHROME LINED BARREL?
Gee, could it be because it increases barrel life? YES!!!!

Edited for spelling.



No, wrong again. its because combat rifles are carried in harsh conditions wherein gun cleaning is oftentimes not feesable.

you stepped into a bear trap on that post    

stop screaming, its unbecoming. act civil
10/18/2006 7:53:11 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
S&G look brother your wrong....you look wrong....and now everyone thinks your a troll....do yourself a favor...zip it......thanks


+1 million.  He won't stop making an ass of himself...
10/18/2006 7:54:49 PM EDT
[#36]
The '96 Shooter's Bible (Pg. 33) indicates that it is a fallacy to assume chrome lined barrels will "far outlast" non-chrome.


With proper maintenance, chrome lined bores are superfulous. The only reasons why I can justify a chrome bore are:
1) corrosion resistence
2) greater surface hardness

The chrome lined bore negated any excessive wear from the bi-metal jackets, though the wear factor is actually very much overblown.
10/18/2006 7:55:28 PM EDT
[#37]
You are the one who is wrong, but isn't man enough to admit it.
It is a fact that chrome lining increases barrel life. That is one of the main reasons for its military use. It is also easier to maintain in extreme conditions. Chrome is harder  than steel, and has a natural lubricity, hence, friction in the bore is reduced, hence, it wears less than an unlined barrel, this is an irrefutable truth, and you know it. I think you are just trying to stir shit up, and I'm done with you and this thread. You're not worth any more of my time.
10/18/2006 8:04:33 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
You are the one who is wrong, but isn't man enough to admit it.
It is a fact that chrome lining increases barrel life. That is one of the main reasons for its military use. It is also easier to maintain in extreme conditions. Chrome is harder  than steel, and has a natural lubricity, hence, friction in the bore is reduced, hence, it wears less than an unlined barrel, this is an irrefutable truth, and you know it. I think you are just trying to stir shit up, and I'm done with you and this thread. You're not worth any more of my time.



A: ive already said a chrome barrel is easier to clean, 2 times ive said it...

B: the barrel isnt CHROME, its permeated into the bore.

if you had a non-chrome barreled AK, youd run out of money 1000 times sooner than youd wear out the barrel with propper cleaning.

this nonsense reminds me of some glock folks asking about barrel life of a GLOCK barrel. ...



Youd have to shoot $80,000 worth of ammo out the barrel to RUIN a $130 barrel.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

silly. silly silly
10/18/2006 8:25:56 PM EDT
[#39]
so do you quote everything straight from the shooters bible?  um do you have the whole thing memorized or something LOL   did you get your wrong answers for Vectors from there as well....I think page 55 says they use romanian parts LOL  what a clown you look like
10/18/2006 8:31:48 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You are the one who is wrong, but isn't man enough to admit it.
It is a fact that chrome lining increases barrel life. That is one of the main reasons for its military use. It is also easier to maintain in extreme conditions. Chrome is harder  than steel, and has a natural lubricity, hence, friction in the bore is reduced, hence, it wears less than an unlined barrel, this is an irrefutable truth, and you know it. I think you are just trying to stir shit up, and I'm done with you and this thread. You're not worth any more of my time.



A: ive already said a chrome barrel is easier to clean, 2 times ive said it...

B: the barrel isnt CHROME, its permeated into the bore.

if you had a non-chrome barreled AK, youd run out of money 1000 times sooner than youd wear out the barrel with propper cleaning.

this nonsense reminds me of some glock folks asking about barrel life of a GLOCK barrel. ...



Youd have to shoot $80,000 worth of ammo out the barrel to RUIN a $130 barrel.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

silly. silly silly



I know I said I was done with you, but the statement in red is just too rediculous to ignore. I can't believe you insist on digging yourself deeper into the hole you've dug for yourself.

1 case of 7.62X39mm(1000rds.)......$180 (kind of high priced, but a good example of current prices)
Times 445 cases, yes, 445,000 rounds.........$80,100

So, you are saying that an AK barrel, with "proper maintainance" will last for approximately 445,000 rounds. Yeah, and monkey's might fly out of my ass!!
I find that highly unlikely since according to info I've read before, I think it was from Arsenal Inc, the standard chrome lined barrel on an AK is rated for a service life of approx. 50,000 rounds. What did you just make up that figure and didn't think anyone would check your math?
10/18/2006 8:32:59 PM EDT
[#41]
Alot of people like the new Century AK rifles and I have thought about buying one, but if they are so good why have there been so many threads recently about guys that have bought them but they fail to function.  My opinion is that if you buy a newly manufactured rifle (Which for the most part these are with a new barrel and receiver) they should fire correctly after you give them an initial cleaning.  Been a number of reports of them not feeding rounds correctly or working like a bolt action rifle.  

With so many guys buying these as a first AK they don't want to screw around with a non-functional rifle.  For the most part I would prefer a rifle from Vector over Century but I have been lucky to never get a lemon from Century either and I think I've had 4 rifles from them.  
10/18/2006 10:50:44 PM EDT
[#42]
I sold my M70AB2.  It was an oxymoron of a rifle for me.  You'd think a compact rifle would be nice and light but it was heavier than I expected.  I even have a HK-91 I'm used to and I still didn't like its weight.  Sold it and I'm buying a Polish underfolder kit and having it built on a NoDak Spud receiver after I pay off CC bill.  It's still smoking from the SLR-106FR I just bought...
10/19/2006 11:38:42 AM EDT
[#43]
I feel dumber for reading this whole thread.
10/19/2006 12:16:23 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I feel dumber for reading this whole thread.


+1

something about feeding trolls and sudden IQ drop...
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