Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
AK Sponsor
9/4/2006 9:50:04 AM EDT
UPDATE:
I finally took it to the range today, and shot it without the muzzle brake removed.  All I have to say is: Thank you!!  Thanks to everyone that suggested shooting with the brake removed.  After I removed it, and inspected it more closely, I could clearly see where rounds had been skimming the edge.  I still don't know how this happened all of the sudden, but at least I have an accurate AK again.

I purchased this gun at a gunshow over a year ago and it has been a very accurate AK for me.  I hand picked it, looking for the usual bad stuff on WASRs (front sight cant, gas block cant, mag wobble, etc.) and felt that it was fine in all regaurds.  Recently I noticed it was shooting horribly right of targets.  When it was new, the front sight was centered.  Now even with it maxed out all the way to the right, it still is hitting 1-2inches to the right at 25 yards!  During one outing, it did get tossed around in the back of a truck, but I don't know if/how that could do anything to change the front sight.  Hopefully pics can help.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g200/moteggy/akproblem3.jpg
Don't know if it was like this when new or not.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g200/moteggy/akproblem2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g200/moteggy/akproblem4.jpg

Thanks in advance. hinking.gif
9/4/2006 10:00:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Check the muzzle crown.. if it was shooting straight and then magically started going right, my money is either on the sights being whacked out of alignment or the crown being dinged up.
9/4/2006 10:07:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Oh noes, WASR 10 FTL!!!1111
9/4/2006 10:07:44 AM EDT
[#3]
The crown is protected by that fatty muzzle break on the end. Also, how could the sight be whacked out of alignment?  Isn't it pinned to the barrel?  It doesn't appear to be bent.  Could the whole barrel assembly have rotated?  I woudn't think that little gap on the trunion would be enough to throw the POI off that much...
9/4/2006 10:09:17 AM EDT
[#4]
hat
You go shooting this weekend?
9/4/2006 12:05:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Uhhh, if you'r shooting to the right of a target, you want to move your front sight post to the left...
9/4/2006 12:10:23 PM EDT
[#6]
height=8
Uhhh, if you'r shooting to the right of a target, you want to move your front sight post to the left...


No. I don't think that is correct.  Try holding your hands out infront of you and acting like they are your sights.  Move your front hand to the left, then realign.  Where did your POI move?
9/4/2006 12:59:28 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Uhhh, if you'r shooting to the right of a target, you want to move your front sight post to the left...


Nope.   You move the rear sight in the same direction you want your POI to shift.   You move the front sight in the opposite direction.   If you want it to shoot further to the left you move the front sight to the right.
9/4/2006 1:40:43 PM EDT
[#8]
Whoops, time to put my foot in my mouth. You're correct, I was thinking of the rear sight.
9/4/2006 1:56:20 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
The crown is protected by that fatty muzzle break on the end.

Also, how could the sight be whacked out of alignment?  Isn't it pinned to the barrel?  It doesn't appear to be bent.  Could the whole barrel assembly have rotated?  I woudn't think that little gap on the trunion would be enough to throw the POI off that much...


*doh* yea, the brake should definitely protect the crown.  Perhaps rounds are hitting it on the way out?  I'd expect an out of round opening in the brake or some metal shaved off or something.  Try shooting w/o the brake?

The front sight could get whacked crooked, but you're talking a big whack and I'd think it'd be obvious looking down the barrel.  It'd have to bend the pins out too, so it'd wiggle I'd imagine.
9/4/2006 3:31:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that a windage adjustable rear leaf sight? If so, could that have gotten out of adjustment in your trunk?
9/4/2006 3:53:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Take that silly break off before you come to any conclusions.

You never know.
9/4/2006 4:15:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Is it possible the front site pin itself is bent. I know I have seen M16s with a bent pin that looked fine but just would not shoot straight until the pin was replaced.

ETA: I second trying it without the brake, that could be the culprit very easily.
9/4/2006 6:31:42 PM EDT
[#13]
THe FSB may have been centered for a slant cut brake originally. If you changed the brake it can throw off your POI.
9/4/2006 9:01:24 PM EDT
[#14]
I have been shooting with the brake that is on there, since I bought the rifle.  I will try it without the brake just to eliminate it as the problem though.  Thanks for the input thus far guys.
9/4/2006 11:47:24 PM EDT
[#15]
most likely the rear sight got bent or something, or the front sight got knocked out of whack.

check the rear sight for anything wierd going on...try removing the FSB pins knocking it over a little and reinstalling the pins.

not sure what was meant by "the FSB was centered for a slant brake...". an AK front sight (properly installed) should work regardless with any  .30cal 14mm muzzle attachment, providing the projectile is not striking the device, but you did not mention any strikes from bullets on the brake
9/5/2006 7:28:56 AM EDT
[#16]
I could see that. The slant break blows gasses up and to the right. That blast of gasses could throw the bullets in that direction, and the sights could be set accordingly. But many people have ditched the slant break without problems though.

I know a match shooter in our club says you should use A1 flash hiders (vents all the way around) on your NM AR-15s as opposed to A2 types (vents only on the top) because the A2 types throw groups off a little.
9/5/2006 7:40:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Are WASR model AKs Romanian built?
9/5/2006 8:05:05 AM EDT
[#18]
I agree, shoot it w/o the brake.
10/1/2006 5:24:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Bump for update.
AK Sponsor