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Posted: 9/2/2006 3:57:01 PM EDT
| I really like the vector guns but would really love to have a side scope mount. How much is an AK with the side scope mount going to be? Is there something between a Vector gun and an Aresnal gun cost wise? |
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WHY do you want a scope on a rifle that is inherently innacurate past 200m? I once had a SAR1 with a scope mount. It gave 3 inch groups. that is 9inch groups at 300m. Yuck. I now own an arsonal SA M7. It it shoots about a one inch group. I do not have the urge to scope it. It is a bulldog, not a doberman. I did just mount a scope on my Enfield ishapore 308 tho. My point and advice is to get one and shoot it like a long range shotgun. |
| Because some of us have presbyopia, or "old eyes", and have difficulty focusing on three things at once (rear sight, front sight and target), especially the front sights on a short sight radius weapon such as an AK. The single focal plane of a scope does wonders for short range accuracy as well. |
| Ditto the "Old Eyes" problem. I'm 52 and without glasses, I just see a blur for the front sight. I use reading glasses to shoot and then I can't see the target. I hope to get a rear peep sight on the Vector underfolder and hope that that improves things some (but I doubt it will), and want another AK with a rail so I can mount a Kobra or an EOTech and try that. |
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+3 on the old eyes. When you get about 45 years old, almost everyone will have problems with vision. Happened to me and everyone I know. All of the sudden you can't see the rifle sights and it is either use a scope or sell the guns. This has been mentioned here before. Just because you are 20 something and can see perfectly doesn't mean the rest of us with $10's of thousand wrapped up in our firearms are just going to stop shooting after our vision goes. |
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I have no problem putting a scope on an AK, especially if your eyes are bad, just don't expect wonders from it. My SAR1 with Russian 3-9X sidemounted scope will not do much better than 3.5" reliably, I can do about as well with irons. The inaccuracy of the AK in 7.62X39 really isn't as overstated as some would like to think, they just aren't typically very accurate. That being said I have a preban Hungarian that can shoot a hair under three inches reliably with Wolf ammo all day, with occasional groups in the 2" range, that doesn't mean it is a 2" gun, it shoots about 3 consistantly, you count what you can depend on. My Aks are really the only rifles I own that I am more accurate than the gun. I can put down my AK and switch over to my mixmaster AR and keep my groups well under 2" all day long, on a good day I can shoot the AR at very close to MOA reliably, and that is using Winchester white box ammo, not match stuff or anything like that. A 5.45 or 5.56 AK is a whole different animal, some of the 5.56MM AKs are real tack drivers, to the point where it would take a remarkable marksman to see the difference in accuracy between it and an AR. |
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