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4/21/2006 9:50:50 PM EDT
Im selling an SKS-D on an auction site and I get this email.

I am VERY interested in your SKS. I am in California so you would not be able to ship to me. If I pay you will you ship to an 01 dealer in Texas? This is an aboveboard transaction as the dealer will have a gunsmith modify the rifle to meet California law (make the magazine non-removable) and then ship it to a California dealer where I will pick it up. Thanks for you time

Im all for helping out someone behing the lines but is this on the up and up?

Thanks
4/21/2006 10:05:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't see a problem with it. You are conforming to the law by not shiping to anywhere illegal..
4/21/2006 11:25:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Why would he buy an SKS-D that takes AK mags when he could just get a Yugo that wont need to be converted.
4/21/2006 11:59:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Legal as long as it goes through an FFL obviously, but I wouldnt do it on ethical purposes. D models aren't rare but you dont see them everyday. Why chop one up?
4/22/2006 1:48:31 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Why would he buy an SKS-D that takes AK mags when he could just get a Yugo that wont need to be converted.



+1 but it is probably legal, even though it sounds ethically questionable because a conventional 10-rounder would make more sense for him.  I wonder if the guy is planning on having an AK mag "permanently attached", then is going to try to figure out a way to detach it ?  

I would assume it's welded in place to make it "permanent", well, I'm sure there's plenty of ways to undo welds if someone really wanted to.  On the other hand, the original seller and the FFL's involved are not responsible for the end customer deciding to violate the law.  
4/22/2006 5:08:30 AM EDT
[#5]
There are so many CA legal SKSs out there already for le$$, and I bet you can find a tidier customer.
4/22/2006 5:54:48 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I am VERY interested in your SKS. I am in California so you would not be able to ship to me. If I pay you will you ship to an 01 dealer in Texas? This is an aboveboard transaction as the dealer will have a gunsmith modify the rifle to meet California law (make the magazine non-removable) and then ship it to a California dealer where I will pick it up. Thanks for you time



If you do indeed sell this rifle to him, make sure you keep a copy of this email.  It is quite possible that you are dealing with someone who stole a credit card because this happened to a buddy of mine a couple of years back.  Someone from California called him, ordered $1,200 worth of merchandise, then had it shipped elsewhere (Chicago IIRC).  It turned out the CC was stolen, and my friend was out $1,200 worth of merchandise because his tele-check CC service only covered transactions up to $800.  Sadly, tele-check verified the CC, then refused to even reimburse him for $800.  ETA:  If he is sending you a money order, at least you would be guaranteed to receive your funds!

Another issue is that this person may not have the rifle modified at all.  What if he knows the FFL in Texas, still has a Texas ID, and drives/flies over to Texas to pick up the unmodified rifle, then brings it back to Cali in that configuration?  Is it possible that Cali would prosecute you for selling an illegal weapon to someone, even though you had the best of intentions and did not directly ship it to Cali?  I wouldn't put anything past those liberal, anti-constitutional, scumbag prosecutors in California.  
4/22/2006 6:01:15 AM EDT
[#7]
I don't think you should let someone turn an SKS-D into a fixed mag just on prinsable...
4/22/2006 6:42:29 AM EDT
[#8]
I would ship it to the FFL in Texas. After that it is his responsibility. The guy sounds like he has no criminal intent so I guess I would'nt worry.

It sounds shady though. Why would you want to modify the SKS(in Texas) when you can just buy a California legal one and not have to reroute it state to state? Are you selling it at a price so cheap that this wouls be a deal for him?

As long as you are shipping the rifle to FFL (in Texas) with his sighned copy you are OK. The minute that guy even mentions anything illegal back out of the deal. Don't let anyone try to convince you (in writing) to break the law. It could always be the ATF playing computer games trying to take the guns out of legal gunowners hands
4/22/2006 10:03:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Thats pretty sketchy, I wouldnt do it.
4/22/2006 10:10:49 AM EDT
[#10]
im with them, i would pass on the sale to cover my own ass.
4/22/2006 11:31:47 AM EDT
[#11]
I am looking for an SKS-D. What are you asking for it? email me jamesATfbmginc.com
4/22/2006 6:54:42 PM EDT
[#12]
here's a thought. how do you load the damn thing with the mag welded in place ? they don't have a hold open anymore,often times no stripper guide either...... don't do it! don't send the commie your gun! R1150R
4/22/2006 8:01:49 PM EDT
[#13]
I wouldn't do it just because it would be a crime to fuck up the model D.
4/22/2006 8:22:34 PM EDT
[#14]
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
4/22/2006 8:51:26 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
here's a thought. how do you load the damn thing with the mag welded in place ? they don't have a hold open anymore,often times no stripper guide either...... don't do it! don't send the commie your gun! R1150R



True, it would be a PITA.  Perhaps this guy just doesn't know his SKS models very well, or some gunstore/gunshow commando told him the SKS-D is the "best SKS ever" .  

To load, you would have to rest the rifle on something, maybe the floor or a table, hold the charging handle back with one hand, thumb each individual round into place with the other.  A major PITA and a recipe for sore (and possibly broken) thumbs .  

There would be no point unless the guy wants to get the weapon modified so it can go into Cali, then reverse the modification illegally on his own, or if he's going to go to Texas to bring a weapon into Cali illegally.  Either way, doesn't sound good if he actually knows his SKS variants (which, as I said, he may not).  
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