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12/5/2005 6:00:10 PM EDT
What are some good makes of the AK-47? Like the AR-15's good makes are colt, bushmaster, ect.
12/5/2005 6:02:42 PM EDT
[#1]
VEPR is the best production AK out there.
12/5/2005 6:10:02 PM EDT
[#2]
www.arsenalinc.com/calibers762.htm

12/5/2005 6:14:57 PM EDT
[#3]
+1 on the VEPRs
12/5/2005 6:16:22 PM EDT
[#4]
+1 on Arsenal.  Not much of a fan of the Vepr they just don't look like AKs and you thought the Russians knew what AKs should look like!
12/5/2005 6:20:21 PM EDT
[#5]

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+1 on Arsenal.  Not much of a fan of the Vepr they just don't look like AKs and you thought the Russians knew what AKs should look like!



Check the laws genious, the you can't import rifles from Russia in military configuration.
12/5/2005 6:21:31 PM EDT
[#6]
a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  I have a few Ak's and can say I'm quite disappointed on the finish of an arsenal! Actually, the finish is pathetic!!! gunscrubber took it off and it began to run. The vepr is nice, but the conversion is a pain in the ass.

I'd put any of my AK's up against a vepr or arsenal!!!!!

ps. All AK's go BANG -- Really not that big of a difference like COLT -> Bushmaster -LMT - etc.
12/5/2005 6:23:41 PM EDT
[#7]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  I



Read my original post again. "VEPR is the best PRODUCTION AK out there."
12/5/2005 6:26:25 PM EDT
[#8]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  I



Read my original post again. "VEPR is the best PRODUCTION AK out there."



I read it - now what?  You like an ak that looks like a hunting rifle.  good.
12/5/2005 6:26:32 PM EDT
[#9]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  


Because most "custom builds" are made on U.S. receivers. I'll never own an AK built on a U.S. receiver. I want to spend my money on quality and U.S. AK receivers aren't quality.
12/5/2005 6:29:12 PM EDT
[#10]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  


Because most "custom builds" are made on U.S. receivers. I'll never own an AK built on a U.S. receiver. I want to spend my money on quality and U.S. AK receivers aren't quality.



 I guess your missing out.
12/5/2005 6:29:58 PM EDT
[#11]






Seems like this always turns into a Vepr vs. Arsenal thread.

Both are top of the line AK's.  Both will more than do the job.

Arsenal's are preferred by guys like me who like more "traditional" AK's and those who like milled receivers.  Veprs are preferred by a coupla guys down Georgia way who don't know any better .

Just kidding, Vepr's are great rifles and there are people working on doing a lot with them as far as stock options and accessories go.
12/5/2005 6:33:10 PM EDT
[#12]

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Veprs are preferred by a coupla guys down Georgia way who don't know any better .




12/5/2005 6:35:48 PM EDT
[#13]

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Veprs are preferred by a coupla guys down Georgia way who don't know any better .









+1
12/5/2005 6:38:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Hunting Rifle

VEPR

Sorry I just dont see the resemblence!
I like AKs of high quality that hit what I am shooting at.
Nice shot Templar. You yanks will learn one day
12/5/2005 6:41:15 PM EDT
[#15]
762bodydropper - Ok, That's one kick ass vepr.



Although, I expected I would see a confederate flag or something on it
12/5/2005 6:41:30 PM EDT
[#16]

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Nice shot Templar. You yanks will learn one day



Who the hell are you callin' a Yank?  I reside in the Capital of the Confederacy sir.  I walk outside my front porch and there's a statue of Gen. Stuart to my left and one of Marse Robert on the right.


Nope, Southron born and bred.  
12/5/2005 6:42:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Here's my hunting gun.

12/5/2005 6:43:41 PM EDT
[#18]

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Nice shot Templar. You yanks will learn one day



Who the hell are you callin' a Yank?  I reside in the Capital of the Confederacy sir.  I walk outside my front porch and there's a statue of Gen. Stuart to my left and one of Marse Robert on the right.


Nope, Southron born and bred.  


Gotcha hot didnt I there yank!

ETA. Can we get someone with photoshop to make a VEPR over a confederate flag?
12/5/2005 6:48:38 PM EDT
[#19]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  


Because most "custom builds" are made on U.S. receivers. I'll never own an AK built on a U.S. receiver. I want to spend my money on quality and U.S. AK receivers aren't quality.



 I guess your missing out.


You can buy my share of 'em
12/5/2005 7:09:01 PM EDT
[#20]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  


Because most "custom builds" are made on U.S. receivers. I'll never own an AK built on a U.S. receiver. I want to spend my money on quality and U.S. AK receivers aren't quality.



The Arsenal receiver is US made.
12/6/2005 5:53:39 AM EDT
[#21]
Funny how when "yank" or "confederate" is added to an arguement, the IQ of the post just plummets.
12/6/2005 6:08:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Haha, I got you guys a little heated there, and I got the hillbillies trying to spell big words.  The VEPRs look pretty kick ass. I have been wanting to buy one but I did not know what was quality and what was junk.  Thanks for the Info guys!!!
12/6/2005 6:11:07 AM EDT
[#23]

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Funny how when "yank" or "confederate" is added to an arguement, the IQ of the post just plummets.



It's all in good fun
12/6/2005 6:14:27 AM EDT
[#24]
True that
12/6/2005 6:22:36 AM EDT
[#25]

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a good custom AK by a good builder!

What do you guys base an arsenal or vepr as being better than a custom build?  


Because most "custom builds" are made on U.S. receivers. I'll never own an AK built on a U.S. receiver. I want to spend my money on quality and U.S. AK receivers aren't quality.



The Arsenal receiver is US made.



Not all of them.
12/6/2005 6:25:59 AM EDT
[#26]
VEPRs can be reworked to make them look "correct" but it's a pain in the ass ...
Don't VEPRs have to use a VEPR mag instead of a regular mag ???

Go with an A R S E N A L  ...



12/6/2005 7:55:27 AM EDT
[#27]

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VEPRs can be reworked to make them look "correct" but it's a pain in the ass ...
Don't VEPRs have to use a VEPR mag instead of a regular mag ???

Go with an A R S E N A L  ...

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img330.imageshack.us/img330/3052/sam7a1r9qb.jpg



It's very obvious that most people that bash the VEPR have never held one. They take the same magazines as any other AK. In fact I use Bulgarian waffles in mine. Plus, my "incorrect" looking VEPR outshot the last two Arsenals at the range.
12/6/2005 11:21:35 AM EDT
[#28]

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VEPRs can be reworked to make them look "correct" but it's a pain in the ass ...
Don't VEPRs have to use a VEPR mag instead of a regular mag ???

Go with an A R S E N A L  ...

img330.imageshack.us/img330/2107/sam7classic1hc.jpg

img330.imageshack.us/img330/3052/sam7a1r9qb.jpg



It's very obvious that most people that bash the VEPR have never held one. They take the same magazines as any other AK. In fact I use Bulgarian waffles in mine. Plus, my "incorrect" looking VEPR outshot the last two Arsenals at the range.



Cool, +1 for the VEPR if it uses readily available mags. I've been thinking about "un-bastardizing" one next year but wasn't sure about the mag situation ...

P.S. I've never said VEPRs weren't shooters, I just think they look like shit in their original configuration ...
12/6/2005 11:26:43 AM EDT
[#29]

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Veprs are preferred by a coupla guys down Georgia way who don't know any better .









+1

 +2
12/6/2005 1:07:41 PM EDT
[#30]

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VEPRs can be reworked to make them look "correct" but it's a pain in the ass ...
Don't VEPRs have to use a VEPR mag instead of a regular mag ???

Go with an A R S E N A L  ...

img330.imageshack.us/img330/2107/sam7classic1hc.jpg

img330.imageshack.us/img330/3052/sam7a1r9qb.jpg



It's very obvious that most people that bash the VEPR have never held one. They take the same magazines as any other AK. In fact I use Bulgarian waffles in mine. Plus, my "incorrect" looking VEPR outshot the last two Arsenals at the range.



Cool, +1 for the VEPR if it uses readily available mags. I've been thinking about "un-bastardizing" one next year but wasn't sure about the mag situation ...

P.S. I've never said VEPRs weren't shooters, I just think they look like shit in their original configuration ...



You think it looks like shit, I think it looks F&%ing bad A&&. I bet after you actually hold one you will change your mind about "Unbastardizing" it. Its the best feeling furniture around.
12/6/2005 1:17:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Here's an idea!

Get both you dipshit
12/6/2005 1:53:11 PM EDT
[#32]
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12/6/2005 1:59:42 PM EDT
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I agree Jicky, but as long as there are people asking "Which AK is best" there will be an Arsenal vs. VEPR thread. Atleast it's not a WASR vs. Hesse thread.
12/6/2005 2:01:33 PM EDT
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+1
12/6/2005 2:02:08 PM EDT
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I agree Jicky, but as long as there are people asking "Which AK is best" there will be an Arsenal vs. VEPR thread. Atleast it's not a WASR vs. Hesse thread.



I'd have to go with a WASR in that fight....
12/6/2005 2:03:59 PM EDT
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I agree Jicky, but as long as there are people asking "Which AK is best" there will be an Arsenal vs. VEPR thread. Atleast it's not a WASR vs. Hesse thread.



I'd have to go with a WASR in that fight....



I can't believe I am saying this, but I would take the WASR too..... now excuse me while I go throw up.
12/6/2005 2:05:22 PM EDT
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I agree Jicky, but as long as there are people asking "Which AK is best" there will be an Arsenal vs. VEPR thread. Atleast it's not a WASR vs. Hesse thread.



I'd have to go with a WASR in that fight....



I can't believe I am saying this, but I would take the WASR too..... now excuse me while I go throw up.


WASRHesse
12/6/2005 3:59:27 PM EDT
[#38]
WASR   Hesse
12/6/2005 4:18:47 PM EDT
[#39]

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VEPRs can be reworked to make them look "correct" but it's a pain in the ass ...
Don't VEPRs have to use a VEPR mag instead of a regular mag ???

Go with an A R S E N A L  ...

img330.imageshack.us/img330/2107/sam7classic1hc.jpg

img330.imageshack.us/img330/3052/sam7a1r9qb.jpg



It's very obvious that most people that bash the VEPR have never held one. They take the same magazines as any other AK. In fact I use Bulgarian waffles in mine. Plus, my "incorrect" looking VEPR outshot the last two Arsenals at the range.



Cool, +1 for the VEPR if it uses readily available mags. I've been thinking about "un-bastardizing" one next year but wasn't sure about the mag situation ...

P.S. I've never said VEPRs weren't shooters, I just think they look like shit in their original configuration ...



You think it looks like shit, I think it looks F&%ing bad A&&. I bet after you actually hold one you will change your mind about "Unbastardizing" it. Its the best feeling furniture around.



I've held them before at fun shows, I like the grip but I hate the buttstock and foregrip ...

Hell, I'd like to get a used take off Vepr stock just to cut the grip off of it ...
12/6/2005 5:04:11 PM EDT
[#40]
I've held,shot Veprs and was'nt impressed,I can't get past the un-traditional look and feel.Fit,finish and function were great but I'd take an Arsenal AK anyday.
12/6/2005 8:08:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Even if you don't care about the traditional look VEPR's just feel too front heavy, not as well balanced as the milled Arsenals.  Won't make a difference shooting from the bench but offhand it won't handle as well.  Now I can see a VEPR with the longer barrel and a bipod making a pretty cool quasi-RPK.  And it already has the RPK type receiver.  
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