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4/9/2005 2:00:08 PM EDT
I am thinking about ordering a VEPR...until I heard the Panamanian government just ordered 200,000 of them 3 weeks ago.
 Do you guys think quality will suffer? Would you wait a while to buy one?

Also, does your VEPR shoot accurately? Anything you don't like about it?
Appreciate any advice.
4/9/2005 2:02:45 PM EDT
[#1]
On the news they said "well over 200,000 of them".

Does that mean 201,000 or 299,000 ???

4/9/2005 2:10:50 PM EDT
[#2]
I had one and sold it in the EE.

I loved it.  Very nice gun, highly reliable, accurate enough to get the job done.  It's truly the ultimate AK.  Sometimes late at night I find myself missing it...
4/9/2005 2:16:40 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I am thinking about ordering a VEPR...until I heard the Panamanian government just ordered 200,000 of them 3 weeks ago.
 Do you guys think quality will suffer? Would you wait a while to buy one?

Also, does your VEPR shoot accurately? Anything you don't like about it?
Appreciate any advice.


The 200,000 ordered are probably from www.izhmash.ru/eng/
Molot is the factory in Russia that produces the VEPR.
4/9/2005 4:23:01 PM EDT
[#4]
I thought Panama used m16's?
4/9/2005 4:33:49 PM EDT
[#5]


Not me...



I like it.  Its heavy... need to get a sling for it for sure.  But its a hoot to shoot, everyone I throw it at loves it.  Initially I was like... crap this was one stupid impulse buy... but the more rounds I put through it the better I like it.


Its taken over the cow medicine job.  When they get sick, and the only cure is hot lead, the VEPR gets the nod.
4/9/2005 4:51:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I do not.  I want one though.  Hopefully I will be able to pull it off prior to my daughter starting college.

At that time my firearms buying abilities will become zilch.
4/9/2005 6:15:44 PM EDT
[#7]
VEPR's are made by
www.molot.net/index-e.php
4/9/2005 7:37:16 PM EDT
[#8]
no1here,
 Thanks for the info you gave me last week about the Ishevsk plant. I went to the website and found nothing regarding the Panama weapons deal,or else I overlooked it.They have a pretty lengthy batch of info in their "news" section. Nothing on Panama.
 I'll check out the Molot link...I think I've already seen it through the Robarms site.
4/9/2005 7:38:43 PM EDT
[#9]
TJ, I have one in 308 and one in 5.45.  They are the finest mass produced AK in my opinion. Keep your eye on the EE. Down side= they are heavy. They are not your traditional AK. They will not accept traditional stock sets without major mods. CB
4/9/2005 8:43:48 PM EDT
[#10]
They are built like a damn TANK!

solid as hell and one of the most accuate AK carbines.


4/10/2005 6:09:34 AM EDT
[#11]
My Verr K is the most accurate of my 7.62x39 guns  (SLR 101 close second)
it has done duty as a deer rifle and under a first gen night scope dipatched coyote on my dads farm. I love mine.
The down side as mentioned non traditional appearance and it is heavy.
4/10/2005 6:56:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Yes, it is a drawback that the vepr will not accept standard folding buttstocks or Tapco handguards...but vepr is offering some nice folding stocks on them these days.

I think the barrels on vepr's are 20" heavy barrels...which is nice.
4/10/2005 7:10:22 PM EDT
[#13]
Other than the non-standard stock and grip, they are very reliable, nicely finished, and surprisingly accurate. Gets my thumbs ups...
4/10/2005 10:20:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Perhaps you are mistaking Panama with Venezuela?

Venezuela rejects US charge concerning arms deal

CARACAS,04/03 - Venezuela refuted on Saturday a recent US accusation of its arms deal, reiterating that the country`s new purchase of arms and military equipment from abroad is a "legitimate, sovereign and uncontested act."

Venezuela will use the arms for a superior mission which is peace, Defense Minister Jorge Garcia said, rejecting once again US criticism that its purchase of weapons would imply an arms race in South America.

The minister emphasized Venezuela as a country that is renown in the world for keeping strictly with the purpose of peace, " collaborating with its neighbors and with whoever needs help."

The official defined the country`s military mission as safeguarding borders, patrolling and operations against smuggling, drug-trafficking and other forms of crime.

Last month, the Venezuelan government signed an agreement with the Russian state-run firm Rosoboronexport to buy 10 helicopters, as well as 100,000 AK-103 and AK-104 assault rifles.

Venezuela also signed a deal with Spain to buy transport planes, asphalt-transport vessels and patrol boats. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez made a statement in defense of the deal after visiting Spanish Prime Minister Jose Rodriguez Zapatero signed the agreements on Wednesday.

He said the military equipment will help Venezuela strengthen its defense capacity and combat smuggling, drug-trafficking and international crimes.

US Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Wednesday criticized Venezuela`s purchase of 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles from Russia, suggesting that Venezuela`s possession of so many weapons would pose a threat to the hemisphere.

Tensions between Venezuela and the United States have been escalating amid exchanges of hostile rhetoric, in which Chavez accused Washington of planning to assassinate him.
4/11/2005 3:47:50 AM EDT
[#15]
I have the VEPR-K in 5.45.  I do not go to the range without it.  I LOVE THIS GUN

4/11/2005 4:50:23 AM EDT
[#16]
The fact that I have two in the same caliber should say enough of what I think of the gun.
4/11/2005 7:59:14 AM EDT
[#17]
My Vepr K is great.
4/11/2005 8:36:08 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks for the replies...especially the Venezuala info.
4/11/2005 11:12:33 AM EDT
[#19]
I love the VEPR K in 7.62x39 alot of the weight comes from the front handguard, so on mine
I went with the ULTIMAK ACR2 this is the best mod i could have done.

I also removed alot of the stock material from the butstock with a rotozip.

it feels alot lighter now.
4/11/2005 11:21:36 AM EDT
[#20]
Vepr with folding stock?  I have not seen that can you provide a link?
4/11/2005 7:49:35 PM EDT
[#21]
4/12/2005 12:24:33 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
www.ak47.com/VEPR%20K%207.62x39%2014.jpg



Where would one get a beauty like that?
4/12/2005 12:44:32 AM EDT
[#23]
They are by far my favorite AK. I used to hate AKs until I bought my Vepr now I want another!
4/12/2005 4:24:22 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Where would one get a beauty like that?



Check out Robinson
4/14/2005 11:01:32 AM EDT
[#25]
Got one slightly used.  Added the RAKURS-A tritium illuminated sight from kalinka.  It shoots very well- accuracy was basically identical to a co-worker's Arsenal.  It does seem to be a little heavier than the Arsenal.  I like the fixed VEPR stock better than the standard AK stock, especially since my arms are long.   The fit and finish is beautiful.

4/14/2005 12:24:09 PM EDT
[#26]
That folding stock on a Krebs would really be something!


4/14/2005 1:26:19 PM EDT
[#27]
I have e-mailed Robinson Arms with a list of 12 questions...I wont buy until I learn some of the particulars.

It usually takes them a long time to reply.I e-mailed twice about the xcr and never got a reply.

I'll keep you posted.
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