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Posted: 2/28/2005 3:10:26 PM EDT
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I'd laugh my ass off if this was happening to someone else. Couple months ago I bought a wasr10. Thing shoots for shit. Had to get an adjustable rear sight to get it zero'd. It's ugly, worst looking new ak I've ever seen. Lucky if you can hit a trashcan with it at a hundred yards. It does however go off every time you pull the trigger. Bought a sar2 yesterday at the Phoenix gun show. Beautiful looking rifle. Wood nice looking, metal finish is real good. Rifle was brand new, hadn't ever been shot. It was 5.45x39 and I wanted one of those. Got two of the brick colored plastic mags with it. Bought a case of Wolf ammo for it. Took it out today and had to raise the front sight three and a half complete revolutions to get it zero'd on the 100 yd. sight setting. It also shot about 4 inches to the right at fifty yards. No big deal as this is just getting sighted in crap. The bitch is that I had two failures to extract in the first 65 rounds. Boy, they just stuck in the chamber and had to be poked out with a cleaning rod. You wanna talk about a pain inthe ass while you are ten miles out onthe desert. Had to drive home, get rod, knock out casing. Drove back out on desert, same shit happened. I did take the rod with me this time saving a trip home again. The Wolf seems to be pretty hot as the primers are cratering. Question is, is the chamber too tight, or is Wolf normally real hot stuff? The 7.62 Wolf I've shot is not accurate but it doesn't seem to be too hot. This 5.45 Wolf doesn't seem to shoot a whole lot better than does my wasr. I've never seen any complaints like this on this board with sar2 rifles in either caliber since I've been reading it. Am I just unlucky, or do others have these aggravating troubles with these things. Thanks for the rant. Kelly |
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samadams: I checked the extracter, it's ok. A loaded round, or an empty can easily be extracted from the chamber. I kept both of the offending cartridge cases and they seem normal in every way, they just stuck in the chamber. I had cleaned the rifle before firing it, so it shouldn't have been overly dirty. Besides a little dirt ain't supposed to bother these things. I guess I'll take it out today again and see if it happens some more. I am a little concerned with the cratering of the primers on the ammunition. |
| Range rat I have a Sar 2 that acts kinda funny also. What I have going on is split case's and bulging Primers. I believe it's a headspace issue. I also had a cross pin shear the rivet head. Im not shooting this rifle till it get's a AK smith to check it over. I have NEVER had the stuck case though. I really like the rifle .Im keeping it because it was cheap $289 NIB and it's a straight one with nice furniture. I have shot the ammo in another 74 rifle and no split cases and bulged primers. Best of luck WarDawg |
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I took it out again today and shot it after an extremely good cleaning. It shot high, left, right, low, and even in the middle once in a while. Looked at it real close after several bullet holes on the target were strange looking and found that the muzzle brake was canted upward and some bullets were hitting it on the bottom. The brake was a little wiggly and this was an intermittant problem with bullet strikes on exit hole of the brake. I took the brake off and Voila, the thing was shooting really low. Had to go up to the 700 yd elevation line to be on at a hundred. Screwed the front sight back down and got it shooting well at a hundred. It shot a lot straighter. After about a hundred rounds I got another stuck case, cleared, fired two more and got another stuck case. Looking at both cases the primer is cratered badly and is sticking out of the primer pocket quite a bit. I looked at the other casings lying around and they all show cratered primers but not coming out of the primer pocket. This batch of ammo is either extremely hot, or I got a headspace problem. Going to get some different ammo before going to the smith route. Without the brake, this rifle shoots fairly well, it just looks funny. I'm going to drill out the front hole on the brake to maybe .30 cal or so and see if it helps or not. I think the brake is correct and the barrel was threaded improperly. Whoever is turning out these guns is sure doing a sorry ass job I think, at least with my two lemons. Kelly |
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Another tale in the saga of the errant 5.45 rifle. Drilled out the front of the brake. Hole is bigger but the brake is still canted. It still shoots a foot high at a hundred yards with the brake on, hole drilled out. I think a pressure wave in the ogive area of the long bullet forces the bullet upward as it is leaving the brake. It doesn't hit the brake any longer though. I took the brake off again and it shoots just as it should, without the brake. I may just leave the brake off the gun. The brake wiggles anyway and maybe this has something to do with accuracy. Anybody know? To drill , or not to drill, that is the question. I think I'll drill out a 45 goddamn caliber hole and see what happens. Jeez, what can it hurt? The quest will continue. Kelly |
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With a wobbly brake, the gun will never get the 2.5" groups it is capable of otherwise. Cratered primers creep me out. Get it to a smith. Hillbilly headspace check: dial calipers, scotch tape, razor; cut tape bits to go over the rear of the case, layer until it no longer closes. |
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