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11/10/2004 10:15:03 AM EDT
I am trying to get some objective input. See I have 3 thousand rounds left over from a mini30 I dont want to go through the hassel of unloading it at a show or somethng, seeing as how I have never  owned an AK thought I might get one. Now the criteria would be as follows: 7.62x39, underfolder, high cap., and as authentic as possible with one possible exception milled reciever, why? why not? Thanks in advence for your input.
11/10/2004 10:21:21 AM EDT
[#1]
chech out the underfolder that ATLANTICFIREARMS.COM has on sale now, I think its around $400.
11/10/2004 10:33:21 AM EDT
[#2]
David,

Atlantic has a $400 underfolder on sale???
I don't see it on their website...how do I get this deal?
Is it one of the Polish ones, or what???
11/10/2004 10:55:21 AM EDT
[#3]

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He gives a discount to ar15 members I saw it in the EE.  
11/10/2004 11:02:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the info but help me understand the pros-cons of stamped verse milled recievers not trying to start a Ford /Chev thing just want objective imput. Thanks
11/10/2004 11:06:40 AM EDT
[#5]
literally, the only difference between a stamped akm receiver (used since 1959) and a milled one is weight.

a stamped rifle is almost 2 lbs. lighter than a milled one.

well...there is that aestetic issue, but that is personal preference imo.
11/10/2004 12:22:41 PM EDT
[#6]
so there are no longavity  issues or fatigue concerns I truly dont know and want to make a somewhat edjucated dicission. Perhaps I should join and get the spell checker< this sight is an awsome rescorce.
11/10/2004 12:51:32 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
so there are no longavity  issues or fatigue concerns I truly dont know and want to make a somewhat edjucated dicission. Perhaps I should join and get the spell checker< this sight is an awsome rescorce.



From what I gather, whether you go stamped or milled; you're receiver will outlast your barrel... And that'll be after a hell of a lot of rounds.

Sly
11/10/2004 3:53:31 PM EDT
[#8]
the very first ak47's were of riveted together, sheet metal construction. hell, even the lower bolt guide rails were riveted in place (they have been welded in place since 1959).

these original ak's were built in the early 1950's.

recently, due to some unpleasantries in the sunny country of afghanistan, our soldiers happened to come across some of these old warriors.

the guys i talked to assured me that they still functioned just as mikhail timofeyovich kalashnikov intended them to!
11/10/2004 4:32:24 PM EDT
[#9]
Those handguards on that AK underfolder that Atlantic has in that photo look Bulgarian to me. I have a set just like that I put on my ORF Polish Kit and look good IMO.
11/11/2004 1:23:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for the help guys guess I can make somewhat of an edjucated dicision now.
11/11/2004 9:20:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Polish underfolders are nice. I have one that a friend built. I was amazed. Truth be told, I expected the Pollacks to do something like put the bayonet lug on the stock, and the stock up front, but I guess not even the Poles can screw up an AK, huh?

11/12/2004 10:33:09 AM EDT
[#12]
The Polish guns have the best machining and finish that I have seen on any  com-bloc countries' weapons.   The Poles' rerutation of being stupid was created by the German propoganda machine before and during WWII, in an effort to dehumanize them.   It is what  we ( the media and militrary machine)  "should" be doing to the terrorist scum  in Iraq.   Oh sorry, did I say that?

-vato  
11/12/2004 11:15:25 AM EDT
[#13]
Vato,

We don't need a propaganda campaign to convince everyone that they are stupid.  This is the twenty first century and still they shit in the shower and wipe their ass with their hands.  Stupid is as stupid does.  Just put them in front of the camera and let them do it for themselves!!



11/12/2004 3:18:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Come on Bubba,

I'd pay good money to watch them do that stuff on camera.   Let me know what web sites you hit...Share the knowlegde with us all.   Hell, in Mexico I still have to throw down some serious pesos for those kind of cultural experiences.

- vato
11/12/2004 9:51:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Vato, I've seen a few Pollacks in action that were beyond stereotypical "stupid Pollack". Most of them, actually, went above and beyond the jokes. Maybe I always meet the dumb ones, neh?

Whether or not they are the dumbest people in Europe (I think not....Poland isnt having a problem with jihadis killing movie makers like Holland is, or muslims overrunning the country, like England), they DO make a damn fine AK. The Poles could probably have given classes to the rest of the ComBloc countries.
11/13/2004 8:35:54 AM EDT
[#16]
This is not the kind of response that I wanted from a rather straight  forward question. What does it have to do with the question anyway?
11/13/2004 11:42:26 AM EDT
[#17]
m-dc,

What Campybob said was absolutely true (as usual).  There is no advantage to a milled receiver other than asthetics.

If you want a milled underfolder, be prepared to pay more than $400 for it.

To be honest with you, I really don't like the underfolder stock much.  I have a Polish PMKMS that I built on a Tapco flat.  It came out looking good . . . as folks have said, the Polish parts are among the best.  The stock is a bit of an ergonomic nightmare, though.  It's just too darn wide for me personally.  It's my least favorite rifle to shoot.  I even prefer the AMD wirefolder more . . .

If I were you I would get a Romanian double-stack conversion from your friendly neighborhood gun store.  Then go to Tapco and pick up their $50 side folder.

Not authentic, but a much more fun weapon to shoot.

If you wnt authenticity, the Atlantic underfolder is the way to go.  I don't own one, but I don't see any complaints about them either.

YMMV,

_Disconnector_
11/13/2004 1:09:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
This is not the kind of response that I wanted from a rather straight  forward question. What does it have to do with the question anyway?



This sir, is arfcom.  It is not uncommon for things to go astray once the original question is answered.  You would be well served with either.  If you were going to shoot only from the bench then the extra weight might add some accuracy and stability.  If however you actually planned to lug it anywhere, the two pounds can add up to backache quickly.
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