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11/3/2004 1:54:33 PM EDT
Putin says Bush win means U.S. not scared of terror
By Andrew Hurst and Paolo Biondi
REUTERS
8:27 a.m. November 3, 2004

MOSCOW – Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday welcomed a victory for George W. Bush in the U.S. presidential race, saying it meant Americans had not allowed themselves to be cowed by terrorists.

"If Bush wins, then I can only feel joy that the American people did not allow itself to be intimidated, and made the most sensible decision," Putin said at a Kremlin news conference after talks with Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi.

He was speaking before Democratic challenger John Kerry conceded victory to Bush in Tuesday's vote.

Ex-KGB agent Putin and former oilman Bush have forged a close relationship that Russian opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq has not derailed. They stress their partnership in the struggle against Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda movement.

"I am convinced that international terrorism gave itself the goal of not allowing the re-election of Bush. The statement by bin Laden in the final stages of the pre-election campaign is the best confirmation of this," Putin said.

He was referring to a video statement by bin Laden promising attacks on the United States in retaliation for deaths in Iraq.

Putin sounded a note of caution, however, saying relations between Moscow and Washington would not be plain sailing.

"Relations will not be easy. Between such countries as the United States and Russia with such a scale of mutual obligations, there are always some problems," he said.

"Our relations in the last four years have undergone a big change, for the good of our peoples, of our countries, and for the good of our security," said Putin, adding that he found Bush "a reliable and predictable partner."

"Bush has proved to be a firm man, with a strong character, and a coherent policy."

Italy's Berlusconi predicted that U.S. foreign policy would continue unchanged.

"Bush will continue with the policy that assigns the United States the role of defender and promoter of freedom and democracy," he said at the joint news conference.

"The continuation on Bush's part of American policy represents an advantage for us."

But he also said he believed Bush would have to pursue a multilateral foreign policy in order to pursue the war against international terrorism, establish peace in Iraq and advance the cause of peace in the Middle East.

"I believe that Bush's victory is based also on the favourable economic phase in the United States and on the tax cuts carried out by the administration," Berlusconi added.

11/3/2004 2:05:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I hope they will join us in the war on terror outside of Russia.
11/3/2004 2:15:09 PM EDT
[#2]
i hope so too!
11/3/2004 2:43:29 PM EDT
[#3]
If he can get past his own history and join sides, victory will be assured. Old ways of thought are hard to overcome though.
11/3/2004 4:33:49 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
If he can get past his own history and join sides, victory will be assured. Old ways of thought are hard to overcome though.



true tha thte old ways of thought are hard to over come, but if he's praising the american people for Bush's re-election, then there is hope. Soon enough I think they will be on our side, but unless some terroristo decides to bomb russian soil for supporting us, then I don't think they'll jump in.
11/3/2004 8:44:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Can you imagine the Eagle and the Bear working together, militarily, to wipe out terrorists? The only way it could get any more unbelievable is if the Dragon (China) joined in.

For all the shit people like to talk on Russia, they are not people that I would want to get into a fight with.  Especially if their home country is attacked. They are probably THE most nationalistic of all people on earth. They are also pretty fierce when riled up. I was actually surprised that they didnt mobilize their military and start kicking ass when those planes were brought down. I figured after the theater job, and the suicide bombers in Russian cities, the planes would be the drop that broke the dam, so to speak, and the Russians would be kicking ass and not bothering with names.

Then again, they may have just been waiting to see how our election would go. And now that Bush has 4 more years, and no re-election to worry about......

Things are going to get interesting. Very interesting.
11/3/2004 8:51:51 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Can you imagine the Eagle and the Bear working together, militarily, to wipe out terrorists? The only way it could get any more unbelievable is if the Dragon (China) joined in.

For all the shit people like to talk on Russia, they are not people that I would want to get into a fight with.  Especially if their home country is attacked. They are probably THE most nationalistic of all people on earth. They are also pretty fierce when riled up. I was actually surprised that they didnt mobilize their military and start kicking ass when those planes were brought down. I figured after the theater job, and the suicide bombers in Russian cities, the planes would be the drop that broke the dam, so to speak, and the Russians would be kicking ass and not bothering with names.

Then again, they may have just been waiting to see how our election would go. And now that Bush has 4 more years, and no re-election to worry about......

Things are going to get interesting. Very interesting.



The Russians also haven't won a war since 1945.

They are not the 'Formidable' ally that you make them out to be - their only 'skill' is imprecise, inneffective mass destruction... Kind of like the guy at the range who puts 2 rounds out of 30 into his target, and the other 28 into the target frames, distance markers, lights, etc...
11/3/2004 9:57:50 PM EDT
[#7]

The Russians also haven't won a war since 1945.



At the cost of some 29.6 million military and civilian casualties.
11/3/2004 10:03:15 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
The Russians also haven't won a war since 1945.

They are not the 'Formidable' ally that you make them out to be - their only 'skill' is imprecise, inneffective mass destruction... Kind of like the guy at the range who puts 2 rounds out of 30 into his target, and the other 28 into the target frames, distance markers, lights, etc...



Hey I'll take cannon fodder!  Seriously though, in the long run, it could be a step in the right direction.
11/4/2004 12:17:20 AM EDT
[#9]

Can you imagine the Eagle and the Bear working together, militarily, to wipe out terrorists?


I can think of no easier, or better way to unite.  I would hope that it is the start of something good, and not just temporary good will from either side.  I guess only time will tell.
11/4/2004 7:24:30 AM EDT
[#10]
ain't it fucked up when an ex-kgb man makes more sense than the democratic presidential candidate????

a sign of the apocalypse?
11/4/2004 9:59:48 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:For all the shit people like to talk on Russia, they are not people that I would want to get into a fight with.  Especially if their home country is attacked. They are probably THE most nationalistic of all people on earth. They are also pretty fierce when riled up. I was actually surprised that they didnt mobilize their military and start kicking ass when those planes were brought down. I figured after the theater job, and the suicide bombers in Russian cities, the planes would be the drop that broke the dam, so to speak, and the Russians would be kicking ass and not bothering with names.


No kidding, one of my friends in college was russian, and I have never seen someone get so mad over a yo momma joke.
11/4/2004 11:10:23 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Can you imagine the Eagle and the Bear working together, militarily, to wipe out terrorists? The only way it could get any more unbelievable is if the Dragon (China) joined in.

For all the shit people like to talk on Russia, they are not people that I would want to get into a fight with.  Especially if their home country is attacked. They are probably THE most nationalistic of all people on earth. They are also pretty fierce when riled up. I was actually surprised that they didnt mobilize their military and start kicking ass when those planes were brought down. I figured after the theater job, and the suicide bombers in Russian cities, the planes would be the drop that broke the dam, so to speak, and the Russians would be kicking ass and not bothering with names.

Then again, they may have just been waiting to see how our election would go. And now that Bush has 4 more years, and no re-election to worry about......

Things are going to get interesting. Very interesting.



oh fuck me!!! wasn't this a movie??? hahahahahaha
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