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Posted: 3/8/2004 3:38:47 PM EDT
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www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165659&perpage=30&pagenumber=3 Guns Network Staff Site Administrator Offline Registered: Feb 1999 Location: USA Posts: 1326 Trader Rating: (1) Guns Network Platinum Contributor Re: INRANGE *************************************************** quote:Originally posted by dabondsan I think Troy Sellars from INRANGE should be added to the list of good guys who build rifles. He has built several for me, top notch, and always built on time. *************************************************** Sorry he ain't good enough to be on this list of gunsmiths who been doing there craft much longer. Plus we got word of some problems members are having or had that will be aired here at a later date. What an ass. TRS EDIT to add: Hey dickhead it's "their" not there trade. |
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Sorry he ain't good enough to be on this list of gunsmiths who been doing there craft much longer. you mean...troy sellars, the very same troy sellars that is repairing a bunch of gooch's screwed up ak builds, is no good??? the same guy that i spent my money on to have him build a rifle for me? well! thanks for setting me straight! lordy! if this guy could possibly make just one more stooopid remark today...he could possibly establish a new personal best record! hey troy, please...tell us 'who' these 'members' are that seem to be having 'trouble' with you?!?!?! bwahahahaha! dweebthorn is so full of it that his eyes are brown! |
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BWHAHAHAHHAhahahaha!.....guess that is why INRange is so busy!....it doesn't have the Thorton DThor's great achievement in life would be to strive to be half as important as a zit on Sellars ass! Its burning David's ass that ORF and INRange are doing VERY well business wise, after he gave them the bum-rush off his site. Not only are they doing well, they are good competitors who get along with each other! They say living well in the the best revenge....looks like this is the case my friend! ....now Joke'n on the other hand.....there is a match for Cumsnet if I ever saw one!....if they just made Congoloid their spokes person they would be official 3 time losers! |
Well, lets see, dthorn manages to cyberfellate gucciano for 2+ solid years while 80+ customers are stolen from, lied to, delayed and eluded. Maybe he misses the throatload of daiy courage and is unable to reason any longer. I have two guns at Troys, one of the busier smiths in the country. A little over one month into the deal I am expecting them back end of next week. That will be about 18 times shorter than the hellish ordeal we went through with GG because. piss on dthorn for eternity. |
| I can only speak for my own experiance with InRange and Troy. A Top company and Outstanding guy. I have had problems with my 74 rifle due to the reciever that I had provided. It took a couple of hundred of rounds for a couple of problems to surface. Troy has been very good to me and had stood behind his work 100% . While there are several other good AK smith out there, till Troy tells me he doesn't work on AK's any longer , he's the only AK smith in my book.WarDawg |
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Guns Network Staff Site Administrator Offline Registered: Feb 1999 Location: USA Posts: 1328 Trader Rating: (1) Guns Network Platinum Contributor rak1004 - How do you know he is not good enough for your list, have you ever had anything built by him, if not, well, you have no argument... I have seen his work and it is alright but not something that knocks me off my feet. Your statement about enough of this crap well I can say the same about your statement. I am glad your AK was built to your standards, what ever they are and I am glad the build was on time but this is not the case with a member here. There will be a time and a place for this member to air about his project as it is not mine to talk about. rak1004 the only people pissing and moaning are the ones who don't know crap about AK builds sorry but just because you have one or two don't mean shit. I and my staff have our own collections of AK's built by many gunsmiths and I am sorry but inrange don't measure up to our standards and some of his own peers. Maybe in another 5 to 10 years who knows... and last I don't mean to be a PITA but whose website are you on? I think I know a thing or two about AK's and the people who build them good lord... What ever you say boycunt. OH, so now it's only on member. What an ass. TRS |
| That was retarded, I stay out of these little spats back and forth, but that was out of line by my book. Their own rules state No slander, and they slander whoever they want, and you cant say a thing about it. Then, as long as I have been around on there and been a good boy, REMIND me, whos website that is, then lock the thread. That was wrong, wrong, wrong...... |
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I could say I don't post anymore just to "spite the site" since I got banned from the F.S. area and who knows what else...but in reality it is just like you said shotar....just nothing worth going there for...Which again re-iterates my whole viewpoint on forums. The PEOPLE make the forum what it is......alienate the meat and potatoes of your board, and soon enough you are left with an empty plate. We as web goers only allocate (donate) so much of our time to certain internet sites....I think most logical people spend their time at places which give them the most bang for the time spent...That 'bang' is directly proportional to the quality of content the web site provides. In the case of a public forum, the content is us!!! I visit back now and then to check on some old friends, but I RARELY find anything but nonsense... -C |
BTW, since when the F@&*# does Dot.nutz listen to their members regarding 'problems' with gunsmiths???? That has got to be the f#&@*ing biggest joke of a statement yet. -C |
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It's pretty apparent that Thornton is becoming pretty desperate right now. In the nearly four years I have know Troy Sellars, he had one bad rifle (out of hundreds). The individual in question made a few comments on the other board against Troy Sellars. Troy's response was "if I don't know about it, I can't make it right." The individual finally contacted Troy, sent his rifle to him, and Troy made it right. The individual came back on the other board and apologized for making the comments. The only other problems I am aware of with InRange is the problem with the recent batch of AK-74s having feed problems due to the type of receiver used. A notice was put out for a recall (at Troy's expense) and the problem would be corrected. All AK-74s produced after that received the "fix action" so the feed problems were eliminated. I think it's actually kind of funny when you think about Thornton saying that about Troy Sellars. I wonder if Troy wants to post the email he received from David Thornton awhile back, begging him to come to the other board. All I can say about the current internet gun and parts market is you can trust companies that frequent this board. I put my trust in: InRange Ohio Rapid Fire K-VAR RedStar Arms/Power Custom I've heard good things and I am very impressed with AK-USA. And as always, I spend money at my local gunshow and the greatest funshow on earth "Knob Creek." Take it for what it's worth gentlemen. Take care, KF |
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rak1004 - How do you know he is not good enough for your list, have you ever had anything built by him, if not, well, you have no argument... well, dweebthorn, i HAVE had troy sellars build an ak for me. so, in you own incomprehensible words, shut your cockholster. I have seen his work and it is alright but not something that knocks me off my feet. as opposed to "works of art" built by your shill, gucciano? Your statement about enough of this crap well I can say the same about your statement. dude, your english SUCKS! so does your logic. just what the hell is your 3rd grade brain trying to say? do you want to take another shot at that sentence? I am glad your AK was built to your standards, what ever they are and I am glad the build was on time but this is not the case with a member here. if there is a problem, troy would make it right. can you say the same for your knob polisher, da gooch? There will be a time and a place for this member to air about his project as it is not mine to talk about. yet, you run your mouth anyway. rak1004 the only people pissing and moaning are the ones who don't know crap about AK builds sorry but just because you have one or two don't mean shit. how about having TWENTY-two of them? in addition to fucking up basic punctuation, your point is illogical. knowledge and ak ownership can be mutually exclusive entities. then, again, your logic skills rank far behind your mastery of the english language. I and my staff have our own collections of AK's built by many gunsmiths and I am sorry but inrange don't measure up to our standards and some of his own peers. oh yeah...you da man! you got those 'high standards' of a faux seal. Maybe in another 5 to 10 years who knows... yes. who knows. perhaps in another 10 years you'll come to the realization that valmet mike was correct. you're a moron. and last finally! he's going to shut up!! I don't mean to be a PITA no worries mate. you probably don't mean to appear that stooopid, either. but whose website are you on? some lunatic's? I think I know a thing or two about AK's i think you don't have a clue as to what day of the week it is. and the people who build them good lord... the good lord is building ak's?!?!?! too cool! i have an rpk-74 kit i would like him to build. gotta link to his website? |
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Is this guy claiming to be a Navy SEAL? New to this argument - just wondering. If he is and you believe him not to be, then please report him to the address below. I hate it when idiots do that. http://www.authentiseal.org/ Their Wall of Shame can be found at: http://www.authentiseal.org/wos.htm |
Guys I just want yall to know this individual isn't me.... Im haveing a problem with my 74 right now and have contacted Troy .It's a reciever problem that crept up on us. I do go to the other board , to read the funnies, but have never made any comments, about anyone and anybody on either board.There are good people over there . Just the loonies seem to be turn loose all to often.This is my HOME. I just wanted to clear my name. Don't want to come home and find my kitty cat stomped to death on my porch , and a flameing paper bag of dog crap on the door step. WarDawg 
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There are good people over and there are good mods over there. They are too scared to say crap to Mr. Thornton in most cases. They think if they something he will come down on them like a ton of bricks (that is true). Besides some of the bad characters most of the guys over there just want to hangout with their shooting buddies and online friends. It's sad when a man devoid of knowing how to having a personal relationship can affect so many others and wield power over them. He pisses into the wind to run his business never knowing or caring that the very stupid crap he keeps repeating upon himself is the key to why he has problems. Typical of someone who is an egomaniac or at the least extremly arrogant. |
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So we have enough freedom of speech that KF can be seen wearing InRange shirts while at ORF. Dthor offers vague innuendo about comments to be made sometime in the future. Makes me look fwd to all the range reports from the SEAK that .net does not have from their fine list of smiths. |
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Is this guy claiming to be a Navy SEAL? New to this argument - just wondering. If he is and you believe him not to be, then please report him to the address below. I hate it when idiots do that. he was exsposed as a fake by john spake, over 3 years ago...when he was run off this site. he used to threaten to beat up people over here. ask him if he was ever presented an mp5 by a grateful american government. ask him if he ever fired shots while people were downrange changing targets. ask him if he was escorted out of the texas black rifle shoot. ask him if he ever presented donr with a seal team 1 lapel pin. |
You will find many people willing to compromise on principles in exchange for some small amount of what they perceive to be power. You will also find people who are unprincipled and just don't care. |
...apparently, their service to their country means less to them than the service to DThor...disgusting huh? I always thought so! ...but then again nobody wanted to listen! It is a really sad state when they turn their back on fallen heros to support a proven liar, and a fake! ...the only thing that was close to that was somebody that would fabricate the story of his wife dying of cancer to get out of his faux seal story! ......ONLY to rise from the ashes like a phoenix as none other than....you fill in the blank for 10 extra bonus points_________________ |
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I wasn't around for any of that history. The major supporters of the owner sure seem to be very pro veteran. While they don't particularly brag about their service, they clearly look down on anyone who did not serve. They do not seem to be the type to cozy up to a proven fake vet-Seal. Are people saying those guys are making false claims to being vets, too? |
I would never claim that those fellows were not in military service and am reasonably sure that they did serve in one form or another. I do however know that when directly asked by me what his job, in the most general terms, was in the military, he flatly refused to answer. He refused so vehemently an answer that he once actually wrote 4 full paragraphs telling me and the world that he would not answer that one simple question. So, what were their jobs in the military, don't know, don't care. What do I surmise that they did after all the tough guy bluster that would be well beneath a real deal high speed low drag type? Well, soldiers sailors, and airmen gotta eat too and that implies that someone has to do the cooking. |
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I was there when Bowhunt aka David Thornton (Dthor) claimed to be a Navy Seal. He was exposed as a fraud and exited the board under the guise of his wife having cancer. He came back as Bowhunt, and just recently retired that screen name and resurfaced as Guns Network Staff. There is no question as to the true identity of all three personas. One only has to read the poorly written posts and notice how all three "slaughtered" the english language. For the life of me, why some of the senior board members support him, I will never know or never understand. He is an "exposed" liar. He committed the ultimate offense to military veterans everywhere by posing as a military member. He has no credibility by assuming three screen names and never telling the truth to his board members. I saw the truth a long time ago. I left. I have a few good friends in good places over there. Red Faction |
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Thanks for checking with us - we greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. If the name you provided was spelled accurately, we do NOT have a listing for anyone named "Thornton, David" in our entire database of slightly more than 10,000 names. Please be aware that I also checked for possible spelling variations and alternate pronunciations but found none that matched. Do to personal changes at authentiSEAL we are not able to up our Wall Of shame at the present time. We are not sure when we will have that capability. Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a full legal name change since his claimed service with the SEAL Teams, I can state conclusively that the man NEVER completed SEAL training, and thus he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL. While there are other training steps that must be completed on the path to becoming a SEAL, BUD/S training is the first and most vital, and that training course is totally unclassified. Without having first completed BUD/S training, a man cannot go on to become a SEAL. There are definitely secret SEAL missions, but despite anything the man might have said, there are NO secret SEALs. If you choose to confront the man regarding his fraudulent SEAL claims, please show him this email message and invite him to contact me - a real SEAL - directly by email with information that will support his claims. I'd enjoy hearing his stories first hand, but I've extended this offer to literally thousands of individuals over the last three years, and in all that time I've received only a scant handful of replies, so I don't really expect to hear from him either. Meanwhile, please visit our web page - www.authentiseal.org/realitycheck.htm - for some very specific information related to the realities of SEAL training, SEAL duties, and the claims most often made by SEAL imposters. If you wish to respond to this email message, please use the REPLY TO ALL button at the top of your email screen display. By doing so, you will ensure that all of the SEAL Authenticator Team members, including myself, will receive a copy of your message. Thank you again for your assistance in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams. You can reach AuthentiSEAL by phone at (707) 438 0120. Curtis Williams SEAL TEAM ONE 1967-1970 SEAL Authentication Team - Investigator "The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs" |
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brules, it's really nothing to get worked up over. davey did serve in the usn...just not as a seal. people that know him in real life say he displays the same personality in person. i respect his service despite the fact that he tends to stretch things a bit. ok...a lot. if you ask him, he will probably deny that he ever claimed to be a seal, but every 6 months or so someone that DOES remember his boasts (and his repeated threats of violence to other site members) pipes up with fond memories of his antics. dunno if a search will turn it up, but i posted a link on this forum...maybe 2 months ago...to a link in the general discussion/general board forum that some guy put up. it that post, the fellow remembers dthor, his boasts about being a seal, his threats and wondered what had become of him. |
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I knew a SEAL a real one and one of the first to be called SEAL's instead of UDT or Frogmen. He spent 3 years in Subic Bay making missions into Nam. We all thought he was jerking our chain until he brought all of his unit books and photographs in. Amazing stuff! He had pics of HALO jumps and and stuff from in the jungle. There were pics of him in the yearbook for his class of that year with his BUDS class (if that is what it's called). He had so much stuff documenting his career we were all floored and then we were in awe of the old man at the same time. He had so many hair raising stories to tell and then some. He was a good guy, but a lonely man. He had no family left and the day he got back from his 3rd tour his Dad passed. He had a wife, but that did not work out. he was an alcoholic too, but a functional one and my management made me fire him for tardiness. They sent me because thet were afraid he would snap. We were on a remote jobsite that had security clearance issues and he had rode in with another guy. I gave him a ride out right then and he had me drop him off at the bar. Sad lonely old man who made some the neatest knives from scratch. I hope he is alright wherever he is. |
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