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Posted: 2/22/2004 6:56:23 PM EDT
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I have a SAR-1 with crooked scope rails. I've seen suggestions on shimming the mount by redrilling/retapping some parts. The pooch-screw factor is high. What about this scope mount from CDNN: www.cdnninvestments.com/cdnn/aksiramolowp.html I want one with a Weaver rail anyway, and I was wondering if any of you have one of these mounts. If you do, then how is the Weaver rail attached to the rest of the scope mount? If it uses screws, then I could put some thin washers to shim the Weaver rail as it attaches to the rest of the scope mount without major surgery. Thanks for the help... |
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First, the mount adapter CDNN sells as an "AK" mount adapter actually has the SVD mounting clamp, which means that, although it would fit onto an AK rail, it will most likely be dislodged by recoil with a few shots. For your SAR, you should look for mount adapters with the V-clamp. You can check my website for those or look elsewhere. If you don't want to have the crooked side rail on the SAR re-riveted, most AK mounts would allow you to realign the scope mount itself by shimming it, which unfortunately would require some permanent alterations to the mount. According to the original specs on these mounts, the weaver rail is screwed on and then pinned in place. You can either make the adjustments as you suggested or by separating the clamp portion of the mount (which is also screwed and pinned together) and shim it there. I'm not sure which would be easier. |
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Thanks for your help. Can you tell me what you mean by "most AK mounts would allow you to realign the scope mount itself by shimming it"? I think I've seen someone post a guide on how to separate the clamp portion, but it required elongating holes, redrilling/tapping, etc. That's a real good way to mess it up I assume. Could you check your AK mount and confirm that the weaver base itself is pinned in place as you mentioned? I'm going to mount a Tasco red dot one there for now, and a Hakko eventually I think... If I can easily do this, I'll gladly order one of your mounts. |
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You're correct that to realign the clamp portion of the mount, you'd need to elongate the holes, but you won't necessarily have to redrill it. There is of course a good chance to mess it up. Perhaps your idea of adjusting the weaver base itself would work better. I just double checked the AK-to-Weaver Mounts that I have and they have the weaver base screwed and pinned in place. I'd suggest considering this mount: Low AK-to-Weaver Mount Adapter 
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kalibr: That's the one I was looking at. The end of the scope rail closest to the barrel is ~0.05" lower than at the buttstock end. Most red dots have a decent adjustment range; do you think that's enough to get me sighted in? Alternatively, how difficult would it be to drill out the pins holding on the weaver base? Also - if the mount is steel I could tack weld it in place after elongating the holes in lieu of retapping. If it's aluminum, I'm out of luck... |
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Well, when my SAR2 bracket needed work, I just had a smith weld it as a nice excuse to have the whole gun blasted and parked. The brackets from kaliber or robarm are probably all you need. Although I am more interested in raising it just enough to remove the dust cover for cleaning with out remounting the optic. |
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Tovarishch Marshal, it's probably impossible to tell if the range of adjustment on whatever red dot you'll be using would be enough -- just too many variables. I've also found that it's not just that the rail on the Romanian SAR can be crooked, it's also that the barrel is not necessarily aligned correctly with the receiver, which compounds the problem. The pins that hold the Weaver base are relatively thin (between 1 and 2 millimeters in diameter) so I think you should be able to relatively safely drill them out or even drive them out with a punch. The mount and the weaver base are made of non-ferrous alloys (I think it's an aluminum/magnesium alloy). Also, I don't want to guarantee this, but if you mess up the weaver base, I should be able to get a replacement base for you at under $10 shipped, but it will take a 2-3 weeks. RS39, on popular demand, this mount adapter was designed to sit as low as possible over the receiver cover. I do offer another mount adapter that sits higher so that you can remove the receiver cover without dismounting the scope, but it seems that most people would like to see the scope as low over the receiver as possible. Incidentally, like any other quality AK mount, this mount, once it's initially adjusted to fit a particular rifle, will maintain perfect zero regardless of how many times you mount/dismount it, so it's not a big issue that you have to remove it for cleaning/field stripping. |
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