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Posted: 4/27/2003 6:44:32 AM EDT
Everything I have read on various gun boards
indicates that the original combloc wood
finish was/is a type of varnish.

I am having an ongoing "discussion" with
my brotherinlaw.
He is an amatuer woodworker - and thinks he is
an "EXPERT" on wood finishes!

He adamantly insists that a varnish finish
makes no sense and would not be cheap and/or
adequate for a gunstock.


I know very little about wood finishing, but
he is getting to be a real Pain in the ASS
about this!

Could someone PLEASE give me some real facts
about the original finish, or at least a couple of links?

PS. I did a search - but no definitive info...
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 6:47:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2003 6:50:41 AM EDT by RotDorn]
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 9:13:20 AM EDT
your all wrong.
its actually a type of rare siberean maple syrup.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 11:09:01 AM EDT
Ask your brother what is the cheapest finish for marine grade plywood that will always be outdoors?

It is Varnish, especially in a third world country like any former combloc nation.

A Russian stock is basically larch plywood finished with a colored varnish slopped on with a brush.

Mike

Link Posted: 4/27/2003 1:10:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 8:10:12 PM EDT
Its lacquer.

Brick
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 3:22:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 3:57:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 6:20:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/28/2003 6:27:13 PM EDT by sfcret]
well I got the proof........the furniture is stained, so there isn't any stained mixed in with the varnish, or whatever they use....how do I know? because I just received a brand new SVD wood stock set from russia....and it doesn't have varnish, shellac, or anything else on it, it looks a little like a mahagony stain....

now I'm no expert, on the finish.....but I bet they would use whatever they have plenty off.

shellac mostly comes from in the southeast asia, and India, but then russia ahs a long standing trade pact with india it wouldn't surprise me if it was shellac.....shellac is actually bug shit that dried on tree limbs, in flake form.


http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/sfcret/SVD%20furniture%20and%20pouch.jpg

Link Posted: 4/28/2003 6:29:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 6:35:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RotDorn:
Actually Varnish is not that easy to find in my AO, the Home Depots etc don't carry it because of the liabilities(???wtf???) they said. I got mine at a local mom and pop hardware store.



Liability = sniffers.

Mike
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 7:46:12 PM EDT
Here is thinker for you (read hint).

If lacquer cannot be easily brushed on, and we all know liquids like that tend to settle before they dry, how do they get the coloring and brush strokes into the lacquer?

Brick
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 3:34:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 7:01:52 PM EDT
Rot, who you trying to kid bro!

Brick

Link Posted: 4/29/2003 7:30:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2003 7:32:15 PM EDT by RotDorn]
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 8:10:45 PM EDT
tantal needs to update that, the SVD furniture I got is stained.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 5:16:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 5:54:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/4/2003 7:25:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sfcret:
tantal needs to update that, the SVD furniture I got is stained.



The last time I checked a SVD was NOT an AK.

So why would Tantal need to update correct information about AKs?

Since this is an AK website what does the finish of an SVD stock have to do with anything?

I saw a Mosin one time too. Guess what? No varnish there either.

Mike
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 6:54:10 PM EDT
Well if you look in the background of one of my pics you will see an SVD butt that came from a Russian rifle in Poland. It is most definately not stained. I can't say why your set is not finished in the "traditional finish". My guess would be it was an unfinished set that was finished off by someone for who intended to sell it, but thats just a guess.

Tantal's word use of "varnish" is probly more of a general term for the finished commonly seen on stock sets. Will we ever know exactly what is used? Who knows. Best I can do is match it with what I have found looks best.

Brick
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 2:59:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2003 3:06:04 PM EDT by sfcret]

Originally Posted By Valmet_M76:


The last time I checked a SVD was NOT an AK.

So why would Tantal need to update correct information about AKs?

Since this is an AK website what does the finish of an SVD stock have to do with anything?

I saw a Mosin one time too. Guess what? No varnish there either.

Mike



hello...SVDs, AKs, RPKs, they are made at the same place...now why on earth would they do one finish different then the other?
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 3:29:15 PM EDT
Thanks for all the info - now play nice
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