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2/24/2003 6:17:09 AM EDT
Okay guys, wheres a good place to order a ak-74 from? also wheres a good place to magazines
for them.
2/24/2003 6:23:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Are you going to "roll your own" or do you want a finished product?
2/24/2003 6:43:06 AM EDT
[#2]
finished, also couls you guys show me some pics plz
2/24/2003 8:47:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Just posted a similar request.  I want a nice AK74 too!   Would like something with a stock that fits me (6'2" tall) the Romanian SAR-1 I looked at recently is way too short.  If the price is right I can replace the stock.
2/24/2003 9:17:11 AM EDT
[#4]
At 6'1" with 34" sleeves, I find the $7 1" rubber buttstock extension at Tapco works just fine.

Best value is a hand-picked SAR2. See if rpbusa.com still has $5 used E. Ger. bakelite mags.
2/24/2003 9:54:41 AM EDT
[#5]
i'm 6'1" and 33" sleeves...i prefer the short commie length stocks, myself.

k-var sells american made polymer furniture that has buttstocks which are 1-1/4" longer than commie standard. they look better, but cost far more, than the $5 rubber buttpads.

i would contact www.aimsurplus.com to order via phone. specify that you want straight sights!!!

for pics, check out the tacked pic post in the romanian forum.

you might as well contact midway and order the redstararms/power custom trigger set. it not only eliminates trigger slap, but will improve your shooting expirience.
2/24/2003 11:04:58 AM EDT
[#6]
At 5'2" with really short sleaves I find the longer stocks more suited.  I must be weird, either that or I am the only sane one here, on second though, I think there are few of use here who can be clasified as sane!

As for the $5 rubber pads, they do work fine, and are a good long term alternative to the -var stocks.

You will like the AK-74, it has become my second favorite gun very quickly.

Edited to add that I second the notion of buying from AIM.
2/24/2003 11:56:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Another endorsment for AIM surplus and adding that extended length wood (Walnut, Maple and Laminate)buttstocks can be purchased unfinished from www.ironwooddesigns.com/.

I don't really have a preference when it comes to buttstock length, I've got both standard and extended stocks. The originals look a little better and the extended ones seem just a bit more comfortable in my opinion.
2/24/2003 2:09:22 PM EDT
[#8]
I have 2 new AK-74's built on K-VAR kits by Troy Sellars
1048 Eagle View Drive
Kodak, TN    37764
Phone/Fax: (865) 932-6509
They both have RSA triggers in them and have never been fired by me. My wife says clean out
the safe for spring time so they are for sale. One is in wood the other black plastic. If any one is interested I will post some photos or you can e-mail at [email protected]

2/24/2003 6:30:12 PM EDT
[#9]
lets see those pics red star!!!
2/24/2003 6:33:20 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I have 2 new AK-74's built on K-VAR kits by Troy Sellars
1048 Eagle View Drive
Kodak, TN    37764
Phone/Fax: (865) 932-6509
They both have RSA triggers in them and have never been fired by me. My wife says clean out
the safe for spring time so they are for sale. One is in wood the other black plastic. If any one is interested I will post some photos or you can e-mail at [email protected]




RS, you need to go into Cartman mode and keep that pimp hand strong...

[cartmanmode] Woman, get in the kitchen and bake me a pie! [/cartmanmode]
2/25/2003 4:27:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Ok here are som quick pix.  These are the best AK units I have ever had in my hands.  But the boss says they gotta go.  $750.00 each  what a deal!






2/25/2003 4:33:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Tried helping you out, I'm still getting red X's!
2/25/2003 6:09:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Got the pix working.
2/28/2003 7:10:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Ken,

Is that the Bulgie wood that smells like turpentine?  I got a bulgie kit with that stuff and whuff! it reeks of turpentine!

What kind of wood is that?  I am guessing some kind of spruce or fir.  Too dense for pine.
3/1/2003 5:47:31 AM EDT
[#15]
those weapons look awsome, i won't be ready to buy for a few more weeks  but if you sttill have them i may give you a call.
who built them and how many rounds have been put throw them? how accurate are they. thanks for the pics and the info.
john
3/1/2003 5:53:44 AM EDT
[#16]
Ken,

Where are you in MO? I am a MO resident, will be driving through the state next month, and would LOVE to add one of those to my carload!
3/1/2003 6:09:46 AM EDT
[#17]
Being built like a lowland gorilla, 6 foot with 34.5 sleeve, I do not find the commie length an issue.  I would leave it and keep it short and handy.
3/1/2003 6:10:25 AM EDT
[#18]
They were built by
Troy Sellars
1048 Eagle View Drive
Kodak, TN 37764
Phone/Fax: (865) 932-6509
They both have RSA triggers
The wood is awesome, my old nose did not smell any thing but Troy might of fixed that. I am
Columbia, Missouri home of the Tigers and The Columbia Police Department Tank. I have never
shot them. If they have been fired it was for function testing by Troy. The Black one is sold
pending funds today. The wood is still up for grabs.
3/1/2003 8:02:47 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
The wood is still up for grabs.



sent you an IM...
3/1/2003 8:20:03 PM EDT
[#20]
JoeKen has Bulgarian AK74s for $319 for Black,$329 for green stock.
3/1/2003 8:27:27 PM EDT
[#21]
Joeken is selling Vulcan aka Hesse Arms AK-74's

Trust me!  The Troybuilt AK's that Ken is selling is easily worth the premium over the messy hesse ones!
3/1/2003 10:32:44 PM EDT
[#22]
i'm new to aks what wrong with the hesse ones guys?
3/2/2003 12:29:19 AM EDT
[#23]
In general, Hesse has poor quality control. If you pick up a Hesse, you'll notice scratches, visible weld marks around the muzzle brake, and in general shoddy workmanship. Several people on this forum have both Hesses and ended up with malfunctioning guns, even with a Hesse AK.

For the money you spend on a Hesse, you might as well buy a Romanian SAR and have us guys tell you how to fix it up real nice.
3/2/2003 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#24]
if i bought a sar-2 how much would it cost me to refinsh the wood , have a smith put on the front site. and new trigger group or would it be cheaper to have in range or ak use fix me up?
3/2/2003 10:43:33 AM EDT
[#25]
If you're going to go all out like I did with my SAR-2, it'll end up costing the same (~$700 = $300 for rifle + $100 for parts (muzzle brake and front sight base) + $250 for gunsmithing). I should be getting it back from AK-USA within the week.

You should probably get one of those Bulgarian kits and have InRange or AK-USA build it for you. It's the best deal going, and you'll have a much more authentic AK-74 than the SAR-2, in the sense of the 90 degree gas block. The SAR-2 is more indicative of the 1st generation AKS-74s used in Afghanistan. I should probably put a wood or bakelite stock set on mine.

Edited to add that the reason why my gunsmithing costs are so high is because a lot of work had to be done to my SAR-2. I had to have the gas block realigned, a new trigger group was installed (Gordon Tech), and the whole gun was refinished in Powder Coat. Then you have to tak into account the front sight base being knocked off and replaced with the original military type.
3/2/2003 1:06:10 PM EDT
[#26]
themo how long did it take from the time you sent it off to ak usa till the time you are getting it back?
3/2/2003 4:24:18 PM EDT
[#27]
1.5 months, but I purposedly told him to take his time since I don't have my spring break until the first week of April.

To make matters worse, his Powder Coating machine broke down, and they haven't shipped it back to him yet. It should have been sent out a week ago, but it's not his fault.
3/2/2003 5:42:19 PM EDT
[#28]
themao,  

when you get your weapon back will you post on this post with photos and your first range report. i've had serveral good  emails wwith chris he seems like a great gun smith.
thanks for all the info .
john
3/2/2003 8:06:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Definitely. It'll be the first week of April when I get a chance to shoot it. That's probably when I'll take pictures of it as well. I'll have to borrow my friend's digital camera.
3/2/2003 9:00:25 PM EDT
[#30]
do you have any other ak's theamo?
john
3/10/2003 12:58:57 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:The wood is still up for grabs.


So what's the status on this?
3/10/2003 10:46:25 AM EDT
[#32]
has anybody used the mojo peep site from red star arms, is it more accurate then the leaf site?
thanks
john
3/10/2003 10:53:11 AM EDT
[#33]
I have one on my SKS. It is nice, but not readily adjustable for range.  It is more of a sight in and leave it there sort-of-thing.
I do like the sight though.

I prefer the Krebs sight that is just like the origional, except it has a peep instaed of a U notch.
3/10/2003 11:16:19 AM EDT
[#34]
ober do you think the orriginal sites are good enough to engage targets out to 200meters.
3/10/2003 11:20:14 AM EDT
[#35]
That really depends on your ability.

I have had no problem with taking a few pot shots at ground hogs with open sights at 185 yards. I missed all three times, (not by much) but it was close enough that I could have easily hit center mass on a person.
3/10/2003 11:34:34 AM EDT
[#36]
thanks ober, after 11 years in the Infantry i'm a crack shot with the AR. having said that
a leaf site and ar sites are not the same. I'm
hopefull that i will become a very good shot with my new sar-2. still haven't fired it yet.
i've heard that the 5.45 is alot more accurate
than the 7.62~39mm. i'm hoping this is the case, as this is the first reason i went with the sar-2. will a trigger set from red star arms help alot?i think in will. do you have one?
thanks john
3/10/2003 12:09:09 PM EDT
[#37]
For Campy and myself, the RSA trigger took about 1/2" off of our groups of 5 at 100 yds, from about 3" to 2 1/2" with SAR2, 4x scope and Barnaul. Considering that an AR gets 2" groups with 10 cent a shot ammo, that's fine by me.
The quality of your Century trigger will vary like they all seem to, so your improvement will vary.
3/10/2003 12:18:20 PM EDT
[#38]
1179, if you are that familiar with firarms you should have little problem with shots to 200 meters.

Growing up in both Europe and the U.S. I am used to both leaf and peep style sights.  I can shoot both about the same, (better at long range with the leaf style due to extensive Mauser shooting).

I have the RSA trigger in two AK-47 varients, and three SAR-2s.  I have also installed one in my dads Romak III.  I bought some of the triggers before the rifles.  The only AK I did not want to change the trigger in was the MAK-90.  It had the best military trigger of them all, but to convert to "preban" I had to do it.

Romanian triggers suck. My first sar-2 I couldn't shoot more than a few mags before my hand hurt from the trigger slap.

The RSA is not cheap, but it is worth every penny. I would also suggest the retainer plate.  Even once you get used to the shepherds hook it is still a pain in the butt. The $11 the plate will cost you will save half an hour of cursing at the designer of the thing.  Its a 30 second job to install.

Take out the cleaning rod when you do fire your SAR.  Mine seems to degrade accuracy bady as it slides out on each shot.
3/10/2003 12:28:54 PM EDT
[#39]
can i leave the cleaning rod on if i have a ak-74 type muzzel break?
3/10/2003 12:41:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Yes, it holds it in much better.  I just take mine out as a matter of choice at this point.
3/10/2003 1:32:48 PM EDT
[#41]
cool, how would you say the recoil is compared to a 5.56mm?
3/10/2003 1:43:32 PM EDT
[#42]
I have shot the 5.56 very little. 1989 in infantry school with an STG77 (Steyr AUG) was the last real shooting I did in the caliber.  I have shot my AR very little due to it not working well.  The little I can remember, I would say that with the break the 5.45 has less recoil.

The only time my AR would work was when it had a bad trigger group and it fired full auto. (Yes guys I had this fixed quickly)

I had a hard time keeping it from climbing.  The AK I can bumpfire as if it were a .22LR.  It feals more like a .22 mag out of a light bolt action.  Maybe as much as a .22 Hornet, but still, light recoil.

It recoils far less than my dads mini-14 which I think has excessive recoil / muzzle rise for its caliber.
3/10/2003 1:51:04 PM EDT
[#43]
ober, thanks for all the info do you have anypics of your sar's. i should have pics of my weapon very soon.
thanks
john
3/10/2003 1:53:46 PM EDT
[#44]
I will try to take some pictures tomorrow.  My camera is bad for close up pictures, but I will see what I can do.  Its been a while since I have posted pictures.
3/10/2003 1:57:12 PM EDT
[#45]
i can't get the pictures link above with over 100 replys to load past page 2, very weird mod's could you fix it please?
thanks
john
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