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1/5/2016 7:55:31 PM EDT
Ok, I took a walk to the dark side for a bit and picked up an AK.  I have built AR's, own them yada yada ar this ak that, got it. Over the past year or so I have been flirting with the idea of getting an AK or "bad guy gun" as some here call them.  No direction, no idea, everytime i try to read about who's who and what's what seems like the AK world has no end.  I didn't wanna spend a lot of money, just wanted to get one of these historic interesting noise making eat anything you feed it rifles.  I happen to come across a co worker who said he was gonna sell an AK.  Long story short i now own and know a very little not a lot about it so I am asking for a little help.  I know its a Chinese MAK90 and thats about it.  Seems to be very tight compared to other AK's i have handled and a very crisp trigger for an AK.  Here are some pics and such.  Serial number is 5 digits no prefix Thanks in advance







1/5/2016 8:12:34 PM EDT
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Nice score! IMO they are one of the best AK's, great trigger from the factory (although I prefer the tapco G2) and they have gone way up in value the last couple of years.

Time to deban it and make a 56 clone

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/158838_Norinco_MAK_90_FSB_replacement_deban.html
1/5/2016 8:17:18 PM EDT
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Ive been reading on doing that also! its not like me to buy and gun and leave it the way i got it  I paid 500 for it with 8 mags, mixed steel and poly which im pretty sure is under value.  Its in pretty damn good condition internally too
1/5/2016 8:25:55 PM EDT
[#3]
IM sent
1/5/2016 8:29:38 PM EDT
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Ive been reading on doing that also! its not like me to buy and gun and leave it the way i got it  maybe the import year and just more about this particular ak. I paid 500 with 8 mags
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Not too much to tell before they were imported. It was most likely imported around the 89' ban because sporter is electro penciled in and the the fact that it doesn't have a prefix, I'm thinking 91'-92'. I could be wrong, this is just a guess.

They are known for having thick(er) stamped receiver than other manufacturers and seem to take a beating pretty damn well. I have owned a few of these and never had an issue (other than some crappy wolf ammo). They even seem to feed hollow tipped ammo well, something I hear ,other AK's have trouble with.
1/5/2016 8:33:22 PM EDT
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Mak-90 was a good run, good job! They came out during the AWB, you could keep it OG or you could remove the stock, I wont blame you
1/5/2016 8:41:56 PM EDT
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You can barley tell where the bayonet lug was ground off, the receiver has a 5 digit number, duster cover and bolt have 4 digit but they are matching to the last 4 of the receiver number.  i dont see some triangle or a star with norinco on it as i have seen on others
1/5/2016 8:52:05 PM EDT
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You can barley tell where the bayonet lug was ground off, the receiver has a 5 digit number, duster cover and bolt have 4 digit but they are matching to the last 4 of the receiver number.  i dont see some triangle or a star with norinco on it as i have seen on others
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They never did put the full serial number on the parts of it, if the last 4 match it is a "matching #s" gun. The logo you are talking about, I believe, came on later imports, does yours happen to have a 386 inside of an oval on the front trunion?
1/5/2016 9:15:03 PM EDT
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Check to see if the receiver is straight or angle cut.

Very nice score.
1/6/2016 9:55:44 AM EDT
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It should be straight cut, the MAK90 I had was and I easily converted with a Chinese milsurp unissued buttstock (when they were available years ago)
1/6/2016 10:24:05 AM EDT
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Ok i could not locate an oval with 386 and there is def a an angle on the back of the receiver when i took the stock off, which i assume is less desirable.  I mean why would you cut the receiver to make it harder to modify.....
1/6/2016 10:49:37 AM EDT
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Ok i could not locate an oval with 386 and there is def a an angle on the back of the receiver when i took the stock off, which i assume is less desirable.  I mean why would you cut the receiver to make it harder to modify.....
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The 386 would just show that it was caught up in the ban and was a polytech before norinco stripped the parts off the receiver and use it for their own, no big deal that it is not there. I'm not sure why they did the slant/straight cut, Ironwooddesigns.com will have wood furniture that will fit the angle cut receivers. It is not a big deal if you are planning on using traditional style wood furniture, other furniture may be hard to find.
1/6/2016 11:45:32 AM EDT
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If i modify it would keep the traditional chinese 56 look or close to it.  Was thinking doing the furniture, replacing the follower and floor plate on mags and muzzle break.  As I am reading that might be enough for 922?  Also i like the look of the cleaning rod, what parts do i need to add that
1/6/2016 11:48:32 AM EDT
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If i modify it would keep the traditional chinese 56 look or close to it.  Was thinking doing the furniture, replacing the follower and floor plate on mags and muzzle break.  As I am reading that might be enough for 922?  Also i like the look of the cleaning rod, what parts do i need to add that
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Read through the thread I linked to earlier, it has links to apexgunparts.com and the parts I used. My personal choice for 922R compliance is ironwood furniture kit (3 parts) and a tapco G2 (3 more parts and it cost roughly $25 for the trigger) putting you at a total of 6 US parts so if you decide to add a muzzle device it does not need to be US made. I am not a fan of using mags as a 922r part.

Eta: if you would like to thread your barrel let me know, I lend out me die set.
1/6/2016 12:29:32 PM EDT
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there is def a an angle on the back of the receiver when i took the stock off, which i assume is less desirable.  I mean why would you cut the receiver to make it harder to modify.....
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That's your answer in the question. To make it harder to modify. Otherwise, people could just stick a normal butt stock in the rear of the receiver. My guess is the rules eased on later MAK's, & a straight cut receiver was OK to use. By the way, if you look at photos of Chinese soldiers in China using Chinese AK's, the barrel is not threaded for any muzzle device. This was done however on Chinese AK's exported to other countries. So on my 3 MAK's, while some features were restored, I never wasted any $ on threading the barrel, as I prefer the authentic "military" look.  GARY
1/6/2016 5:43:26 PM EDT
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That's your answer in the question. To make it harder to modify. Otherwise, people could just stick a normal butt stock in the rear of the receiver. My guess is the rules eased on later MAK's, & a straight cut receiver was OK to use. By the way, if you look at photos of Chinese soldiers in China using Chinese AK's, the barrel is not threaded for any muzzle device. This was done however on Chinese AK's exported to other countries. So on my 3 MAK's, while some features were restored, I never wasted any $ on threading the barrel, as I prefer the authentic "military" look.  GARY
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there is def a an angle on the back of the receiver when i took the stock off, which i assume is less desirable.  I mean why would you cut the receiver to make it harder to modify.....
That's your answer in the question. To make it harder to modify. Otherwise, people could just stick a normal butt stock in the rear of the receiver. My guess is the rules eased on later MAK's, & a straight cut receiver was OK to use. By the way, if you look at photos of Chinese soldiers in China using Chinese AK's, the barrel is not threaded for any muzzle device. This was done however on Chinese AK's exported to other countries. So on my 3 MAK's, while some features were restored, I never wasted any $ on threading the barrel, as I prefer the authentic "military" look.  GARY



Ha that was my attempt at humor or sarcasm..

If I wanted to 56 it, how could I get the bayonet lug and cleaning rod on there
1/6/2016 6:03:11 PM EDT
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If i modify it would keep the traditional chinese 56 look or close to it.  Was thinking doing the furniture, replacing the follower and floor plate on mags and muzzle break.  As I am reading that might be enough for 922?  Also i like the look of the cleaning rod, what parts do i need to add that
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Read thru the AK Build it Yourself forum, they deal with 922 all the time. I hung out there a lot when I was building mine.








This forum is the catch all, things the other forums don't cover, and general AK topics.




Good luck with you debanning, that's a fine looking rifle.
1/6/2016 6:05:14 PM EDT
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ok perfect ill read up, thanks
1/7/2016 9:42:31 AM EDT
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Ha that was my attempt at humor or sarcasm..

If I wanted to 56 it, how could I get the bayonet lug and cleaning rod on there
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there is def a an angle on the back of the receiver when i took the stock off, which i assume is less desirable.  I mean why would you cut the receiver to make it harder to modify.....
That's your answer in the question. To make it harder to modify. Otherwise, people could just stick a normal butt stock in the rear of the receiver. My guess is the rules eased on later MAK's, & a straight cut receiver was OK to use. By the way, if you look at photos of Chinese soldiers in China using Chinese AK's, the barrel is not threaded for any muzzle device. This was done however on Chinese AK's exported to other countries. So on my 3 MAK's, while some features were restored, I never wasted any $ on threading the barrel, as I prefer the authentic "military" look.  GARY



Ha that was my attempt at humor or sarcasm..

If I wanted to 56 it, how could I get the bayonet lug and cleaning rod on there


The iron wood hand guard will come with the hole drilled in it to insert the cleaning rod, you will just need to drill a  hole in the lower retaining plate. As far as the bayonet goes, you can try and find a gas block with a bayonet lug and swap it out.
1/7/2016 1:15:25 PM EDT
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Looks real nice OP!
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