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Posted: 9/24/2012 10:01:38 AM EDT
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. |
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MAC, how do you like that sling mount on your SGL? From watching the video it seems like it would and does get in your way
a lot? I notice the placement puts it right in the way of the safety and that you frequently have to brush it aside when you grasp the grip. Is it possible to flip around to the other side? |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. 
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. LOL - nice video. Yeah the other guy is a tool. |
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Quoted: MAC, how do you like that sling mount on your SGL? From watching the video it seems like it would and does get in your way a lot? I notice the placement puts it right in the way of the safety and that you frequently have to brush it aside when you grasp the grip. Is it possible to flip around to the other side? The only time I have to brush it aside is when I have it unslung. I usually have it slung unless I'm doing things like throwing it in dirt.  I have a couple of those mounts on my rifles I shoot most and like them quite a bit. With the Krebs safties I run, I don't have an issue with it getting in the way. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. I traded out my AR's for AK's also there buddy. They'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Great!!!!!!! 
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. I traded out my AR's for AK's also there buddy. They'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Great!!!!!!!
And there's nothing wrong with that. Hell, I don't even have an AR at the moment, but I have 10 AK's. But I can bet you have a reason for doing so that isn't retarded, and it could be something as simple as you just like it more than the AR or it's more fun for you. That's perfectly fine. What I've gathered from Dieselsmoke is his AR was his only actual rifle that he sold to fund his Arsenal, and after ONE range session where the rifle didn't jam now everything else is crap. Evident from his "IO Inc's are better than WASR's" comments and his "no custom build is better than an Arsenal". He's a tool, and should keep his horseshit out of the tech forum and take it to GD like 7N6 did before he was banned. ETA: I apologize FAC for cluttering up your thread. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. I traded out my AR's for AK's also there buddy. They'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Great!!!!!!!
And there's nothing wrong with that. Hell, I don't even have an AR at the moment, but I have 10 AK's. But I can bet you have a reason for doing so that isn't retarded, and it could be something as simple as you just like it more than the AR or it's more fun for you. That's perfectly fine. What I've gathered from Dieselsmoke is his AR was his only actual rifle that he sold to fund his Arsenal, and after ONE range session where the rifle didn't jam now everything else is crap. Evident from his "IO Inc's are better than WASR's" comments and his "no custom build is better than an Arsenal". He's a tool, and should keep his horseshit out of the tech forum and take it to GD like 7N6 did before he was banned. ETA: I apologize FAC for cluttering up your thread. Honestly, I like AK's. Now I got to many. I do agree, if you bought only the rifles the cool kids bought then you'd never experience much else. Run the shit out of the weapons before making a decision. Every rifle has it's pluses and minuses- it's just a matter of finding the one that fits you best. Hell, I'm thinking of getting an AUG now and maybe an HK 93- just to have some variety. RR |
Nice video and thanks for sharing! I personally dont/won't put my rifles through some of the tests I have seen but I am thankful there are people like you who do and share 
I am a proud AR owner and tomorrow I will hopefully be a proud AK owner I ordered from Buds on the 18th and its supposed to be at the FFL Dealer tomorrow BUT the tracking hasn't updated since the 20th and that was when it was in IL.....not ID!!!!! I hope it arrives on time, its killling me waiting for it! I also hope I don't get hit with one of those 3 day waiting periods for approval, that would piss me off.
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Quoted: I admit that I was surprised to see the AK perform as well as it did with the dirt in the magazine. My understanding was that the AK often failed when the magazine got dirty, causing the cartridges and the spring to bind-up. I got the idea from a video I saw a couple of years ago where I guy did far worse to one. I too was surprised to be honest. |
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I admit that I was surprised to see the AK perform as well as it did with the dirt in the magazine. My understanding was that the AK often failed when the magazine got dirty, causing the cartridges and the spring to bind-up. I got the idea from a video I saw a couple of years ago where I guy did far worse to one. I too was surprised to be honest. I feel like some people try to make the AK fail to prove a point lol |
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I admit that I was surprised to see the AK perform as well as it did with the dirt in the magazine. My understanding was that the AK often failed when the magazine got dirty, causing the cartridges and the spring to bind-up. I got the idea from a video I saw a couple of years ago where I guy did far worse to one. I too was surprised to be honest. How long did it take you to clean it? I feel like hosing it off and then oiling would be the easiest lol ...that's what he did. lol. it's at the end of the video. |
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Excellent video. What is that magwell looking thing on your SGL31? It's made by Solar Tactical, it's called the MFER. it should be called the BAD MFER. I did a short review of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk7fhZGlElE I didn't embed because this is MAC/FAC's thread and he'll do a much better nice review than mine shortly I'm sure. |
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I admit that I was surprised to see the AK perform as well as it did with the dirt in the magazine. My understanding was that the AK often failed when the magazine got dirty, causing the cartridges and the spring to bind-up. I'm not shitting in Mac's thread or on his test BUT..... thats a dirt test. I live in Florida and not Indiana and down here its basically the largest sandbar in the world. all of the soil here is dirty sand with alot of broken shell mixed in. now that said...I did the same thing Mac did to a sar2 i had. hand full of range sand from the bottom of a puddle in the parking lot. rifle fired 100% and when i cleaned it there was a spent .22 case in the receiver. the "internet legend" of AK reliability is not a myth that said however I have seen similar tests where the AK FAILED due to gravel in the action that got in via the hole in the dust cover. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. Dam dude relax take a XANAX i hated my AR and love my AK simple. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. No need for lube with the AK. i had 4 AR'S and always jammed and always had to clean them. I hated them. No time for junk. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. Jesus Christ you're a tool. I think you're going to give 7N6 a run for his money in short time. You just recently got rid of your AR for your Arsenal (sorry I mean ARSENAL) and you're already slinging your dick around. Tell me, why exactly didn't you like about the AR? This should be good. Hopefully you can read this, I was going to put it in all caps for you to better understand but I just couldn't being myself to do it. I traded out my AR's for AK's also there buddy. They'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Great!!!!!!! AMEN
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. No need for lube with the AK. i had 4 AR'S and always jammed and always had to clean them. I hated them. No time for junk. There are pros and cons to both platforms. I personally don't like having the buffer spring right by your face with the AR platform. That 'twang' while shooting got to me, not because the AR's I've had ever jammed. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. No need for lube with the AK. i had 4 AR'S and always jammed and always had to clean them. I hated them. No time for junk. You had 4 ARs and they always jammed huh? Well... there are a couple of options here: A) You had crappy rifles built by Hesse (I'm sure you will counter by saying they were all Colt, Noveske, and LMT) B) You used crappy ammo C) You as the operator failed to maintain the rifles D) All of the above (My personal choice) I own 2 BCM rifles and after a few thousand rounds through each not a single FTF, double feed, or anything My Colt 6920 did double feed a couple of times but that was due to a bad ammo/magazine combo. Let me be the first person on this side of the forum to admit that my 3 AKMs (Intrac MAADI, Steyr SA-85, and SGL) have given me more trouble than all of my ARs combined. Not that it is a big deal....just rack and bang again, but it is true. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. No need for lube with the AK. i had 4 AR'S and always jammed and always had to clean them. I hated them. No time for junk. You had 4 ARs and they always jammed huh? Well... there are a couple of options here: A) You had crappy rifles built by Hesse (I'm sure you will counter by saying they were all Colt, Noveske, and LMT) B) You used crappy ammo C) You as the operator failed to maintain the rifles D) All of the above (My personal choice) I own 2 BCM rifles and after a few thousand rounds through each not a single FTF, double feed, or anything My Colt 6920 did double feed a couple of times but that was due to a bad ammo/magazine combo. Let me be the first person on this side of the forum to admit that my 3 AKMs (Intrac MAADI, Steyr SA-85, and SGL) have given me more trouble than all of my ARs combined. Not that it is a big deal....just rack and bang again, but it is true. You must have had wasr AK'S. My AR'S were a colt 6920 LMT and a daniel defense. REMEMBER this is just my opinion and experiements with the AR. I hated the fact that you had to keep the AR sparkling clean all the time so it wouldnt jam. My AK i dont have to worry about that. |
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I sold my AR about 1.5 weeks ago and added another AK to my collection, an SLR106.
I do not think the AR is a bad platform, I never had any issues with it other than it not liking steel cased ammo very much, but I just prefer the AK platform. I think both are fine platforms and both have proven themselves in combat conditions. They both have pros and cons and it is up to the user to determine which platform serves them best.....or just own both. lol I never trust anyone that says ARs are jam-o-matics or that AKs can't hit the broad side of barn, this just shows they have no meaningful experience with the platform. |
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Quoted: My AR'S were a colt 6920 LMT and a daniel defense. What about the M&P? And which AK did you own that had all the jamming problems? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/421743_SHOT_MY_FIRST_AR_15_TODAY__WOW_.html Team members should search his previous threads. I'll be kind and say they are "interesting". |
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My AR'S were a colt 6920 LMT and a daniel defense. What about the M&P? And which AK did you own that had all the jamming problems? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/421743_SHOT_MY_FIRST_AR_15_TODAY__WOW_.html Team members should search his previous threads. I'll be kind and say they are "interesting". Sooooooo, 3yrs ago he dumped his AK because it had nothing but jamming problems for a M&P-15 which was "flawless"... and now he tells us he dumped his ARs because all they did was jam and says they were Colt, LMT, and DD? Anyone else ever watch that George Carlin skit where he describes meeting someone and you can't quite figure out what's wrong with them? Until they speak.... "OHHHHH, he's full of shit" LMAO 
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I sold my AR about 1.5 weeks ago and added another AK to my collection, an SLR106. I do not think the AR is a bad platform, I never had any issues with it other than it not liking steel cased ammo very much, but I just prefer the AK platform. I think both are fine platforms and both have proven themselves in combat conditions. They both have pros and cons and it is up to the user to determine which platform serves them best.....or just own both. lol I never trust anyone that says ARs are jam-o-matics or that AKs can't hit the broad side of barn, this just shows they have no meaningful experience with the platform. +10 I own and love both platforms. Personally I am an AR guy at heart. If ever the proverbial SHTF comes....I will grab my AR. I do however collect AKs and shoot them every chance I get. Neither rifle is a bad choice. |
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THATS WHY I OWN AN AK NOT AN AR. LOL... Good lord, what's with the AK side lately? Nothing but guys posting bullshit about how superior their AK is. Here's a hint for you Diesel, most of us own BOTH rifles and multiples of each. You make yourself sound like a knuckledragger making pointless comments in caps lock. The AR is every bit as good of a rifle. In fact the AR is only prone to problems when the operator of said rifle is too stupid to lube it. No need for lube with the AK. i had 4 AR'S and always jammed and always had to clean them. I hated them. No time for junk. really. because thats not what you said on july 18th 2011 at 2:35:54 pm you said this: WOW THIS THING IS AWSOME. IT WAS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON OUT OF THE BOX WITH IRON SITES, A COUPLE CLICKS OF THE EOTECH AND IT WAS RIGHT ON ALSO. LOVE THIS THING. ++++++++1 FOR COLT.
i also noticed when searching the archives you have ALOT of locked threads. infact of the 1st 50 threads you have in the archives 13 are locked by comparison GseriesFal infamous GD troll only has 2 locked threads in the 1st 50 threads of his in the archives. You're a troll. and thats not a personal attack. thats fact. mods: do the same digging i just did. it won't take 10 minutes. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I admit that I was surprised to see the AK perform as well as it did with the dirt in the magazine. My understanding was that the AK often failed when the magazine got dirty, causing the cartridges and the spring to bind-up. I'm not shitting in Mac's thread or on his test BUT..... thats a dirt test. I live in Florida and not Indiana and down here its basically the largest sandbar in the world. all of the soil here is dirty sand with alot of broken shell mixed in. now that said...I did the same thing Mac did to a sar2 i had. hand full of range sand from the bottom of a puddle in the parking lot. rifle fired 100% and when i cleaned it there was a spent .22 case in the receiver. the "internet legend" of AK reliability is not a myth that said however I have seen similar tests where the AK FAILED due to gravel in the action that got in via the hole in the dust cover. It's kind of funny, people have asked me to put everything in the gun imaginable, things like sand to "moon dust". As you note, I live in Indiana. We have dirt, mud, ice, snow and water. I don't plan on buying a bag of sand to test my rifle with something that it will never encounter. The thing is, the most reliable rifle in the world will fail if the tiniest spec of dirt gets in the wrong spot. If I put a dirt clod directly in the mouth of the chamber then tried to load and fire it, chances are it would fail. As long as the AK keeps the crud out of it's chamber area, it's mostly ok. If you fill the receiver with crud, it will puke. You can only put a modest amount of stuff in there –– I mean c'mon, it's just a machine. Granted, there aren't too many machines that can run with a hand full of dirt in them (so it's impressive) but it can and will fail at some point. |
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Quoted: A) You had crappy rifles built by Hesse (I'm sure you will counter by saying they were all Colt, Noveske, and LMT) B) You used crappy ammo C) You as the operator failed to maintain the rifles D) All of the above (My personal choice) I shoot mostly Colt but I've been turned onto Windham Weaponry rifles as of late. I use steel ammo (most people consider to be bottom of the barrel) and I routinely fail to maintain my rifles. I'm not good about lubing them either. Sometimes I purposely run them dry (see my Cerakote video) with steel ammo and I still don't have reliability problems. While I probably can't go 10 years without cleaning an AR and shooting it regularly (yes, I have an AK I haven't cleaned in 10 years that still runs fine) but then I don't need to either. If the world ended tomorrow I would take my AK because I know I don't need to lube it, I know I can clean it in a creek, and I know I can mostly forget about it and focus on other things until I might need it. But that doesn't mean AR's are prom queens either. They will endure more than many people give them credit for in my experience. |
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A) You had crappy rifles built by Hesse (I'm sure you will counter by saying they were all Colt, Noveske, and LMT) B) You used crappy ammo C) You as the operator failed to maintain the rifles D) All of the above (My personal choice) I shoot mostly Colt but I've been turned onto Windham Weaponry rifles as of late. I use steel ammo (most people consider to be bottom of the barrel) and I routinely fail to maintain my rifles. I'm not good about lubing them either. Sometimes I purposely run them dry (see my Cerakote video) with steel ammo and I still don't have reliability problems. While I probably can't go 10 years without cleaning an AR and shooting it regularly (yes, I have an AK I haven't cleaned in 10 years that still runs fine) but then I don't need to either. If the world ended tomorrow I would take my AK because I know I don't need to lube it, I know I can clean it in a creek, and I know I can mostly forget about it and focus on other things until I might need it. But that doesn't mean AR's are prom queens either. They will endure more than many people give them credit for in my experience. 100% agree. I was referring to the other poster just to be clear. As you pointed out....you started off not doing option A. hahaha |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A) You had crappy rifles built by Hesse (I'm sure you will counter by saying they were all Colt, Noveske, and LMT) B) You used crappy ammo C) You as the operator failed to maintain the rifles D) All of the above (My personal choice) I shoot mostly Colt but I've been turned onto Windham Weaponry rifles as of late. I use steel ammo (most people consider to be bottom of the barrel) and I routinely fail to maintain my rifles. I'm not good about lubing them either. Sometimes I purposely run them dry (see my Cerakote video) with steel ammo and I still don't have reliability problems. While I probably can't go 10 years without cleaning an AR and shooting it regularly (yes, I have an AK I haven't cleaned in 10 years that still runs fine) but then I don't need to either. If the world ended tomorrow I would take my AK because I know I don't need to lube it, I know I can clean it in a creek, and I know I can mostly forget about it and focus on other things until I might need it. But that doesn't mean AR's are prom queens either. They will endure more than many people give them credit for in my experience. 100% agree. I was referring to the other poster just to be clear. As you pointed out....you started off not doing option A. hahaha Oh, I know. I was just adding to your point. |
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Quoted: MAC, is that really all the cleaning you do? That looked like 7n6 ammo you were running. Or was it Brown Bear or something? Just curious if thats all the cleaning your rifles get after running corrosive ammo. I have a video that talks about what I do to clean after using corrosive ammo. I wash in water. I hit it with an air compressor I hose it down with Gun Scrubber, it displaces all water and leaves the gun bone dry I clean it with Ballistol or CLP I spray extra Ballistol or CLP all over the gun then hit it with the air compressor again to blow off the excess and to get the lube into every nook and cranny |
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MAC, is that really all the cleaning you do? That looked like 7n6 ammo you were running. Or was it Brown Bear or something? Just curious if thats all the cleaning your rifles get after running corrosive ammo. Water works the best for dissolving corrosive salts. I'm sure he doesn't just rinse it off with water and then stuff it in the safe. If so, all his rifles would already be rust buckets. |
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MAC, is that really all the cleaning you do? That looked like 7n6 ammo you were running. Or was it Brown Bear or something? Just curious if thats all the cleaning your rifles get after running corrosive ammo. I have a video that talks about what I do to clean after using corrosive ammo. I wash in water. I hit it with an air compressor I hose it down with Gun Scrubber, it displaces all water and leaves the gun bone dry I clean it with Ballistol or CLP I spray extra Ballistol or CLP all over the gun then hit it with the air compressor again to blow off the excess and to get the lube into every nook and cranny If I don't have enough time for a full cleaning, I usually wash it down with boiling water and spray it with CLP. Then, I go back later and clean off the carbon. No problems as of yet on 5 AKs. |
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