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1/25/2012 10:41:39 AM EDT
The AK forum is getting to be pretty monotonous. Which is actually pretty indicative of the lack of variety on the market. Everything's drying up, so every day pretty much goes like this:

New Guy: I want to buy an AK
Responder 1: Get a Saiga and convert it
Responder 2: Get an Arsenal
Responder 3: Get a WASR

Then start over the next day.

And what is this nonsense about "fit and finish" being bad on a WASR? It's really fine, across the board, a bad WASR these days is about as likely as a bad Arsenal. It does happen, as with any other product on the planet, but it's fairly rare. Yes in the past there might have been more bad ones (I've never seen or heard about one from anyone other than people on forums) But seriously, WASRs are perfectly fine now.

I'm getting bored with the AK world

1/25/2012 10:46:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Do what I did. Go AR for awile, get fully stocked up, come back. Repeat as necessary. Maybe dabble in precision or bullpup for awhile.

You must have got a good WASR. Mine looks like it was put together by thumbless drunk monkeys. It works like a champ though.
1/25/2012 10:48:20 AM EDT
[#2]
*Shrug*

I guess its subjective.  Comparing my buddies WASR-10 to my Saiga, we both thought my rifle had the nicer finish.

That being said, both guns get the hell shot out of them and work perfectly.

And if you're bored, maybe its time to start looking into the fun oddballs.

AMD-65s, RPKs, maybe SBR a draco?  

Unless you have one HELL of an extensive collection, seems like there's plenty of AK goodness out there to acquire.  

That's how I feel about it anyway.
1/25/2012 10:49:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
The AK forum is getting to be pretty monotonous. Which is actually pretty indicative of the lack of variety on the market. Everything's drying up, so every day pretty much goes like this:

New Guy: I want to buy an AK
Responder 1: Get a Saiga and convert it
Responder 2: Get an Arsenal
Responder 3: Get a WASR

Then start over the next day.

And what is this nonsense about "fit and finish" being bad on a WASR? It's really fine, across the board, a bad WASR these days is about as a bad Arsenal. It does happen, as with any other product on the planet, but it's fairly rare. Yes in the past there might have been more bad ones (I've never seen or heard about one from anyone other than people on forums) But seriously, WASRs are perfectly fine now.

I'm getting bored with the AK world



Get them into collecting.  Tell them to look for an East German, MD 63, Hungarian, Russian Izzy/Tula, etc.

There's generally two types that like AKs.  People who want a reliable rifle for a good price.  People who want a unique rifle.  

The latter option is enough to keep a conversation going for a long time.  

Actually there's  a third type.  People who gear up their AKs.  There's stuff to talk about there too.
1/25/2012 11:05:12 AM EDT
[#4]
I started off with a SLR 107f, quickly got a WASR, and have gotten into collecting the varients after that. Which is bad. I think its worse than BRD because of scarcity. You know the USSR went out of business sometime back, and this may be your last chance ever to get that badass (insert name here) that 99% of the population wouldn't notice the difference in. But you know.
Don't even get me started on stuff like Bakelite mags or laminate furniture...
1/25/2012 11:09:18 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm actually down to one AK right now (TGI AMD-65). It's not so much the AK itself that I'm bored with, but the utter lack variety on the market compared to what it once was. I know that there's some cool stuff out there, but it's a pain in the ass to scour gunbroker for it, and it doesn't come cheap.  That said, I've still been thinking about going over to the AR side for a little while. Contemplated buying an AR, but then decided to spend half of what I'd spend on an AR on 7.62x39 ammo to be able to shoot the AMD a lot and still have money to blow on other things. The ammo is here, but the weather has been just godawful. I can't wait for summer to get here. What would be even better is to have my disposable income be essentially bottomless again like it was 2-3 years ago

At one point or another, I've owned:

SAR-1
AES-10 RPK
Special Interest Arms AKS-74 (Triangle stock)
7.62x39 Draco
WASR-10/63
Arsenal SGL-31
WASR 10/63 UF
PSL

1/25/2012 11:13:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm still all about AK's, but outside of the kit build market, it's pretty limited and... well, boring to me.

Really can't think of anything that I can just buy new at the gunshop right now that I really want.  But I'm really excited about some of the kits on the market right now.
1/25/2012 11:27:44 AM EDT
[#7]
I think the limited flow of new, quality, and innovative products for the AK is what is making ME take it to the back seat for a bit. I know there are manufacturers making such products for the AK(TWS, Midwest, etc.,), but no where near the pace of say.. an AR. I am in no way trying to start a flaming contest. I actually prefer my SLG21 over my M&P15, but for me the modularity of an AR is what is occupying my time at the moment.

EDIT: I just haven't seen any products for the AK that have peaked my interest as of yet.
1/25/2012 11:28:43 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:



I'm getting bored with the AK world





I've been there for some time now.



On a personal level, I am highly diversified in my firearms so there are other forums here to occupy my interest.



As far as this forum is concerned, I just help out where I can.  There is very little for me to glean here anymore.



 
1/25/2012 11:36:17 AM EDT
[#9]
AK's have the performance and reliability built in.   Kinda like a Japanese car..

Build an AR, or buy a English Car and you can spend lots of your time working on it trying to improve it.

1/25/2012 11:45:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:

I'm getting bored with the AK world


I've been there for some time now.

On a personal level, I am highly diversified in my firearms so there are other forums here to occupy my interest.

As far as this forum is concerned, I just help out where I can.  There is very little for me to glean here anymore.
 


I'm on your page. I have some other firearms (mostly C&R bolt actions and some pistols) but ammo has gone up so much for those that it takes the fun out of it. I used to be able to get good 1936 headstamped German 8mm ammo for $3 per 15 rounds and shoot an entire Saturday away. Now it's Privi Partisan if you want any kind of accuracy. My father has an MSAR STG-E4 that I can shoot whenever but an AK is cheaper to shoot do I do that. I think that this thread made me realize that I need to boost my income and get some cool shit again
1/25/2012 11:55:12 AM EDT
[#11]
I don't know, I was too young for AKs in the 90's and too broke in the early 00's. I guess I wasn't spoiled by the "Golden Age" as far as availability goes. I am excieted about Atlantic's new offerings, and I saw somewhere where they said they were in talks with the Russians to send some more goodies our way.

I never have been a Vepr fan before, but some of those look nice. Still not into Chicom rifles, but thats my problem.
1/25/2012 12:23:20 PM EDT
[#12]
You mention bad weather and wanting summer to come. You must not live in Florida!

Go get a Concealed weapons permit which is mostly an indoor thing and one or more pistols and start carrying one.
1/25/2012 12:40:30 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm just the opposite.  I built my first AR 5 years ago and I got tired of the next, greatest thing (upper, lower, BCG, sights, barrels, stocks, DI vs. Piston, etc).  If you didn't have the newest and greatest gadget, you were somehow in a lower class of AR owners.  Its like the old saying "keeping up with the Jones's".  Just look at the AR discussions forum and there are dozens of "...insert rifle variant here" threads.

I like the AK because its simple.  Generally speaking, other than what is stamped on the side of the receiver, an AK is an AK.  There are some variations in furniture and sights to make it your own but there are not huge 50 page threads about whether ammo "X" is better than ammo "Y" or if you don't have "Z" brand mags, your gun will blow up.

I still love my AR for its accuracy and what it can do but its largely a safe queen.  My AK get most of the range time.  Eventually, as I'm able to save more money, I'll add a PSL then a 1911 but I most likely won't build another AR for some time.
1/25/2012 12:52:10 PM EDT
[#14]
From a noob perspective there's too much variety from the likes of Atlantic Firearms. From the AR side everyone can follow or say they follow milspec so you know what you're getting.

I come over to the AK section and read about conversions, dimples here, no dimples there. Then I see the kits and think you're insane for trying to put that thing together. You'd have more people in here if that were a more simple process.

I can afford an Arsenal but that's boring. With those available though it makes no sense to convert myself. So what's left? As you said, everyone responds WASR-10 but I can afford better and don't want to settle for a WASR. There needs to be a few in between AKs that people can agree upon and recommend.

Also, the gun shops around here suck. We're lucky they finally stock ARs but we're talking S&W and Del-Ton. Hope to actually see an AK? Good luck...
1/25/2012 12:55:46 PM EDT
[#15]
i love the ak, i built my own and then i just had one built. im going to tear apart the old one and make it an rpk i do get bored with the ak forum though. it really is the same postings over and over. for me i love the retro ar forum because everyone is going for as close to original as possible. i would love to see a retro forum started for ak's. little things matter to me. i like seing the battlefeild pickup builds and the builds people do with all the right markings and both the semi and full auto selector positions to be more authentic. i just love the detail some people put into their rifles. id like to see more of it.
1/25/2012 1:18:29 PM EDT
[#16]
I've been tied up at work since October and haven't been able to post as much, or really do anything other than work.

I agree there's not a ton of stuff going on these days



Z
1/25/2012 1:32:10 PM EDT
[#17]

As an avid AK shooter, I welcome any new blood in the AK waters.

We were all 18 once, new to the gun game, and ignorant.

AKs, either you have an affinity for them, or you don't.

Keeping the AK forum open and available for the
new guys is, in reality, a long term benefit to we shooters.






1/25/2012 1:36:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:

I'm getting bored with the AK world


I've been there for some time now.

On a personal level, I am highly diversified in my firearms so there are other forums here to occupy my interest.

As far as this forum is concerned, I just help out where I can.  There is very little for me to glean here anymore.
 


Same here.

I'm guilty of starting two of the threads recently.....just wanted to spend money on another rifle.

won't go over well, but its going to be another AR.

I blame it on the never ending reliability of my 74, it gets boring

ETA:

I don't think the market is what it was say 2-3 years ago, when there was a proliferation of options and new rifles to the market.

Ironically, there are those here, who can say the same thing about " 5 - 20 years ago"

Everything now is a new cover of the same old song. Unless someone digs up a couple thousand "truck guns" or gets around importation laws, this trend will continue.
1/25/2012 1:43:41 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
i love the ak, i built my own and then i just had one built. im going to tear apart the old one and make it an rpk i do get bored with the ak forum though. it really is the same postings over and over. for me i love the retro ar forum because everyone is going for as close to original as possible. i would love to see a retro forum started for ak's. little things matter to me. i like seing the battlefeild pickup builds and the builds people do with all the right markings and both the semi and full auto selector positions to be more authentic. i just love the detail some people put into their rifles. id like to see more of it.


you can find all of this at theakforum. They take it seriously like the retro ar forum does (which i've been viewing a lot myself)
1/25/2012 2:06:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I'm actually down to one AK right now (TGI AMD-65). It's not so much the AK itself that I'm bored with, but the utter lack variety on the market compared to what it once was. I know that there's some cool stuff out there, but it's a pain in the ass to scour gunbroker for it, and it doesn't come cheap.  That said, I've still been thinking about going over to the AR side for a little while. Contemplated buying an AR, but then decided to spend half of what I'd spend on an AR on 7.62x39 ammo to be able to shoot the AMD a lot and still have money to blow on other things. The ammo is here, but the weather has been just godawful. I can't wait for summer to get here. What would be even better is to have my disposable income be essentially bottomless again like it was 2-3 years ago

At one point or another, I've owned:

SAR-1
AES-10 RPK
Special Interest Arms AKS-74 (Triangle stock)
7.62x39 Draco
WASR-10/63
Arsenal SGL-31
WASR 10/63 UF
PSL



I know how you feel.  AK's are my all time favorite, but seeing some new variations (or old forgotten ones for that matter) would be nice.  On that note, I'm really considering getting a Draco and going the SBR route.  I want a solid stock for it though.  I can't get enough wood furniture!  

A good solution to the boredom issue for me has always been to change out the furniture of my existing collection of rifles.  Who can afford to buy a new AK every time they get the itch?  So, why not simply change the scenery?  It's almost like getting a new firearm, but at a fraction of the price.  


A healthy variety of firearms is nice as well.  Here are some of the rifles I've owned and since sold to fund other purchases:

Mauser 98K
Ruger 10/22 (MG-42 conversion kit)
Yugo M70ab2
WASR 3
Romy G
Romy G
Yugo M72 RPK
Cohaire CA-94 HK-94 Clone
C93 Sporter - HK 93 Clone
ATI-SAT 47
Arsenal SGL-21

I consolidated calibers so that I can purchase ammo in bulk and save some dough.  All my AK's are now in .223.   I was considering getting a Champion (.223 Draco) pistol or one of the new Arsenal SLR-106ur pistols and SBRing it, but I've read that the performance would be pretty bad accuracy-wise.  Is this true?  If so, I may get Draco and SBR it.

Anyway, the fun and not so expensive way of adding some variety for me is to simply change the furniture.
1/25/2012 2:21:40 PM EDT
[#21]
I think one option that I know A LOT of us would LOVE would be a Vityaz 9mm pistol.  I know, I know, it's been discussed.  However, if Draco's can be imported, why not a Vityaz pistol?  Now THAT would be exiciting!    



















1/25/2012 3:42:02 PM EDT
[#24]


Start collecting.



I find that collecting is equally as fun as shooting. It's the hunt for rare AK related accessories that keeps my interest alive.



Recently, I was considering switching to all things AR because the AK world was starting to bore me, but then I found two beauties on Gunbroker that kept my passion burning for the Kalashnikov:





Won these two auctions the other day -





Factory new Izhmash AK-103 magazine (and now I want to buy the SGL 21-94):







\



Won this one as well - factory new "True Black" AK-74M/AK-105 5.45 magazine:








It's the hunt for rare AK items that keeps me interested - and I love talking to other forum members about their own collections.



1/25/2012 3:54:58 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Start collecting.

I find that collecting is equally as fun as shooting. It's the hunt for rare AK related accessories that keeps my interest alive.

Recently, I was considering switching to all things AR because the AK world was starting to bore me, but then I found two beauties on Gunbroker that kept my passion burning for the Kalashnikov:


Won these two auctions the other day -


Factory new Izhmash AK-103 magazine (and now I want to buy the SGL 21-94):

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/268764000/268764223/pix227593497.jpg

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/268764000/268764223/pix372076401.jpg

Won this one as well - factory new "True Black" AK-74M/AK-105 5.45 magazine:

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/268767000/268767800/pix842950978.jpg

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/268767000/268767800/pix794426787.jpg



It's the hunt for rare AK items that keeps me interested - and I love talking to other forum members about their own collections.



Yes, those are some cool finds.  I like the collecting aspect as well.  I want to collect at least one set of just about every color variation of laminate furniture out there.
1/25/2012 5:47:46 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

Fuck it, i want a 54R Krink


+1




Or this




And to be honest I'd go nuts over one of these




Z
1/25/2012 5:51:42 PM EDT
[#27]
I have been bored with the Ak game a few times over the years but always came back.

I keep it interesting by researching and learning as much as possible about every variant of the rifle.

Watching the EE for kits. Nothing like waiting for the kit to come in and when it does take it to your builder (James at CMP armory in my case) and then waiting for it to be finished. The excitement is in the wait for me knowing I'm getting something new.

Buying parts and pieces to put your on franken kits together. Depends on what rear trunnion you run across that day will determine if your next rifle will be a fixed, UF or side folder

By doing this I have a akm-63 being built now on a FEG receiver, an UF franken kit ready to be built and as soon as I find a fixed stock rear trunnion I'll have another kit complete.

Also have a yugo m70 fixed stock kit a friend is holding for me so as soon as my tax return comes I'll have that kit.

I've found the trick to keeping it interesting is to give yourself projects and have a couple going at once, the dry market for good kits have made it more interesting for me :)

1/25/2012 7:29:58 PM EDT
[#28]
We need to get the bloody worthless NFA repealed that would make things more fun across the board.

Also, I'm not into AKs because of the internet forum time, I actually like to just go out and shoot the bloody things.
Even when I go out to "just shoot .22s" I end up running a box or two through my Draco because shooting is the fun part of guns!

1/25/2012 7:34:14 PM EDT
[#29]



I think we need a tacked flow chart for the "I have $x00.00, what AK should I buy?" threads. I counted 5 or 6 on the first page a couple days ago. It really waters down the valuable knowledge on this site.

$500   -> Henderson WASR
$900   -> Arsenal
cheap ammo   -> 5.45
etc.


I got bored putting stuff on my AKs, so I started building my own.

Now I'm bored with that, so I'm building more challenging stuff. I just finished my Galil (CNC Warrior receiver, SAR length IMI barrel, Apex kit), and I'm waiting on the F1 stamp to finish my Tula Krink.

I'm thinking a RPK build may be in my near future. If I had the tools, I'd do an RPD.


1/25/2012 9:21:44 PM EDT
[#30]
I agree with what alot have said here that we need a more collector, authentic, or rare type forum, whatever you want to call it. I love the akforum and all they do over there and cant imagine ever getting bored of that stuff! I mean there building real russian type 2's, east german ddr's, micro galil's, you name it!! That's the stuff that interests me, not putting rails on wasrs...
Btw, alot of really really rare and really cool kits are becoming available to those that got the money. I wish this place was more like that place, lol.. Exspecially since I cant post there cus I dont have the right email..:(
1/26/2012 2:55:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
I agree with what alot have said here that we need a more collector, authentic, or rare type forum, whatever you want to call it. I love the akforum and all they do over there and cant imagine ever getting bored of that stuff! I mean there building real russian type 2's, east german ddr's, micro galil's, you name it!! That's the stuff that interests me, not putting rails on wasrs...
Btw, alot of really really rare and really cool kits are becoming available to those that got the money. I wish this place was more like that place, lol.. Exspecially since I cant post there cus I dont have the right email..:(


Im in the same boat you cant use a free email account over their
1/26/2012 5:25:14 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Fuck it, i want a 54R Krink


+1




Or this

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4734/610xgv0.jpg


And to be honest I'd go nuts over one of these

http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/NDM86/01-SVDS_Brochure.jpg


Z


A VSS would be awesome, really anything in 9x39

In Russia, 9x39 is for Ice Cicles.....awesome vid
1/26/2012 8:33:37 AM EDT
[#33]
I am with you on the main point. If some people would just scroll down a page or two they would see the other dozen or so similar questions and answers. but like our other comrads have said, I mix up what I build,study,read and shoot. reloading has been my kick lately, especially looking foward to some 7.62 x 39 loads when I can hunt down the components. I think we all go through cycles ,interest wise.
1/27/2012 6:59:43 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Fuck it, i want a 54R Krink


I built a pistol several years ago.

When you build your own, you are only limited with what you can imagine.

1/27/2012 7:23:49 PM EDT
[#35]
I don't know how the hell I missed this thread but I'm just seeing it now.

I think stability is good. There are new products here and there for the AK "platform" but I love AK's for thier simplicity and robustness, not for the "what's the flavor of the week" that you get with AR's (which I find fucking nauseating to say the least), plus AK's have real wood on them. Not to sound gay but...I love wood.

I do think the AK section is a little "quieter" than the AR side but so what? That's what I like about it. Somebody posts pics of an AK (any AK) and we in general say "nice rifle, now get plenty of mags and ammo and enjoy it", not "well that was the best last week but now you need brand XYZ"  I also think it's gotten somewhat caty with the brand XXX is better than YYY BS. In general an AK is an AK, one is just as good as another.

It's simple, robust, and fills it's intended design parameter to a "T". It is what it is, accept it and embrace it or move on to something else that will make you happier.

You want "flavor of the week" or "trend setting" go someplace else.

This isn't responding to anybody, just stating my worthless opinion.
1/27/2012 7:31:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I don't know how the hell I missed this thread but I'm just seeing it now.

I think stability is good. There are new products here and there for the AK "platform" but I love AK's for thier simplicity and robustness, not for the "what's the flavor of the week" that you get with AR's (which I find fucking nauseating to say the least), plus AK's have real wood on them. Not to sound gay but...I love wood.

I do think the AK section is a little "quieter" than the AR side but so what? That's what I like about it. Somebody posts pics of an AK (any AK) and we in general say "nice rifle, now get plenty of mags and ammo and enjoy it", not "well that was the best last week but now you need brand XYZ"  I also think it's gotten somewhat caty with the brand XXX is better than YYY BS. In general an AK is an AK, one is just as good as another.

It's simple, robust, and fills it's intended design parameter to a "T". It is what it is, accept it and embrace it or move on to something else that will make you happier.

You want "flavor of the week" or "trend setting" go someplace else.

This isn't responding to anybody, just stating my worthless opinion.


Sounds good to me
1/27/2012 10:09:40 PM EDT
[#37]
I dislike the prices associated with the "rare" parts. It's not even that they're rare, just rare here. Perfect example would be a Bulgarian gas block/FSB combo. Arsenal/K-Var should have piles of them for at most $20. But instead we're stuck with paying $150 for that part if you can find one. And be happy about because now you can finish up your build. Or K-butthole does a "limited" release for like $100 and that's such a great deal for this part you gladly paid 50% more for one that you buy another one for a rainy day.

And it rains a lot in Oregon so you have this gas block/FSB and you're like "if I only had a 4.5 mm rear folder trunnion instead of all these damn Russian 5.5 mm trunnions..."
1/27/2012 10:26:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
<snip>

And what is this nonsense about "fit and finish" being bad on a WASR? It's really fine, across the board, a bad WASR these days is about as likely as a bad Arsenal. It does happen, as with any other product on the planet, but it's fairly rare. Yes in the past there might have been more bad ones (I've never seen or heard about one from anyone other than people on forums) But seriously, WASRs are perfectly fine now.

I'm getting bored with the AK world



Well, there's only so much you can talk about;
Shot my AK.
Yeah, shot mine too.
Cleaned my AK.
Yeah, cleaned mine too.
Stained my wood.
Yep, stained mine too.
What color you do?
Red.
Same here.

Ad nauseum.

The noobs keep us awake.

As for WASR finish - I can clean my WASR with pretty much any gun/carby/brake cleaner I can find and not sweat paint peeling or bubbling. I'll take a tough-ass park-finished WASR any day.
1/28/2012 4:05:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I dislike the prices associated with the "rare" parts. It's not even that they're rare, just rare here. Perfect example would be a Bulgarian gas block/FSB combo. Arsenal/K-Var should have piles of them for at most $20. But instead we're stuck with paying $150 for that part if you can find one. And be happy about because now you can finish up your build. Or K-butthole does a "limited" release for like $100 and that's such a great deal for this part you gladly paid 50% more for one that you buy another one for a rainy day.

And it rains a lot in Oregon so you have this gas block/FSB and you're like "if I only had a 4.5 mm rear folder trunnion instead of all these damn Russian 5.5 mm trunnions..."


$150 thats all? I just had to pay $350 for a N.O.S. Polytech FSB/SPIKER setup
1/28/2012 7:39:30 AM EDT
[#40]
Whenever i get "bored" with the AK,i just start messing around with with my .22's.Good thing about the AK platform is its so simple and reliable it tends to get dull sometimes.Never understood the AR squabbles over brand X or Y.Sure i prefer Chicom AK's but i love all AK's no matter which manufacturer built them.
Im getting into finding odd and uncommon mags.Makes it interesting and fun to find different mags.
1/28/2012 10:09:40 AM EDT
[#41]
I would have to disagree..  I think the last few years have been really exciting for AK owners.  We are finally getting some aftermarket goodies and new ideas!
Things like the TWS, ultimak, MI accessories, Mounts for lights and optics, muzzle devices, furniture, and Iron sight options.  
It wasn't that long ago that none of that was available!

Of course most of it is tacticool stuff.  If your only into traditional AK's..  well that is just the nature of the beast.    As far as new rifle imports..  Saiga's were a big deal.  It
used to be impossible to get a genuine russian rifle.  The PSL imports were a great thing.  If those Polish Radom rifles ever get here I'll be all over it!

1/28/2012 10:22:05 AM EDT
[#42]
I'll plus 1 the Radom rifle Idea, if only we could get some svd's from some country theyre way overpriced for what they are and they're already in a spotter config pretty much . Shouldn't be to hard to get one imported. If only the import ban on china could be lifted. That would be interesting . I love to see the rare and one of a kind classic builds . Something about milled goodness , correct scope rails and optics gives me  a warm fuzzy feeling.
1/28/2012 10:56:39 AM EDT
[#43]
I, for one, am excited about the future of AKs. We have the new Arsenals with folding stocks, and the new VEPRs at really competative prices. Atlantic is even developing a way to put standard AK furniture on them.

While the forums may be quite, I think that is a good thing. Us AK people are simple folk, no need to babble over the flavor of the week or which part is best. Kalashnikov simplicity in a sense
1/28/2012 3:46:01 PM EDT
[#44]
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I, for one, am excited about the future of AKs. We have the new Arsenals with folding stocks, and the new VEPRs at really competative prices. Atlantic is even developing a way to put standard AK furniture on them.

While the forums may be quite, I think that is a good thing. Us AK people are simple folk, no need to babble over the flavor of the week or which part is best. Kalashnikov simplicity in a sense



yea we are simple, cheap, all live in trailer parks and AR's are too expensive and complex for us



1/28/2012 4:01:49 PM EDT
[#45]
If you're bored with the AK get a Vz-58/Vz-2008. I shot in a Kalashnikov match this morning with my Vz-2008 and outshot a bunch of guys with scoped AR-15s.
1/28/2012 7:37:30 PM EDT
[#46]
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I'm just the opposite.  I built my first AR 5 years ago and I got tired of the next, greatest thing (upper, lower, BCG, sights, barrels, stocks, DI vs. Piston, etc).  If you didn't have the newest and greatest gadget, you were somehow in a lower class of AR owners.  Its like the old saying "keeping up with the Jones's".  Just look at the AR discussions forum and there are dozens of "...insert rifle variant here" threads.

I like the AK because its simple.  Generally speaking, other than what is stamped on the side of the receiver, an AK is an AK.  There are some variations in furniture and sights to make it your own but there are not huge 50 page threads about whether ammo "X" is better than ammo "Y" or if you don't have "Z" brand mags, your gun will blow up.

I still love my AR for its accuracy and what it can do but its largely a safe queen.  My AK get most of the range time.  Eventually, as I'm able to save more money, I'll add a PSL then a 1911 but I most likely won't build another AR for some time.


This is pretty much where I am at with the AR world.  I'm tired of hearing about military clones and what not.  I have two AR's that serve a great purpose but I seriously just want to to do something different and in all honesty, simple, rugged and reliable.  The AK is my next thing.  When I get bored with AKs I'll probably move on to something else.
1/28/2012 8:18:49 PM EDT
[#47]
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I, for one, am excited about the future of AKs. We have the new Arsenals with folding stocks, and the new VEPRs at really competative prices. Atlantic is even developing a way to put standard AK furniture on them.

While the forums may be quite, I think that is a good thing. Us AK people are simple folk, no need to babble over the flavor of the week or which part is best. Kalashnikov simplicity in a sense



yea we are simple, cheap, all live in trailer parks and AR's are too expensive and complex for us





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