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4/2/2011 7:18:27 PM EDT

My Maadi build pops the casings out at 2'Oclock at 4-5 yards when firing at shoulder height.

Is this normal?

I'm asking cuz every now and then I get a FTE. The round will either lodge parallel with the gun and get pinched between the bolt and trunion, or will try to eject out the left side. I've had some get pushed so far out the left as to bend the top cover and get lodged between the top cover and receiver. I can't duplicate the problem or the ejection pattern by cycling the action by hand.

Any ideas?

4/2/2011 7:24:00 PM EDT
[#1]
ak's should kick empties way out forward and right.

it was this very problem that led me to this site so many years ago.

buy a new extractor and spring from kvar.

and now the circle is complete, and i am free of my bondage
4/2/2011 7:40:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
ak's should kick empties way out forward and right.

it was this very problem that led me to this site so many years ago.

buy a new extractor and spring from kvar.

and now the circle is complete, and i am free of my bondage


Main spring? Is there another one inside the bolt assembly? I've never actually cracked that thing open. Are Egyptian extractor compatible with Romanians or any others?

4/2/2011 7:46:53 PM EDT
[#3]
extractor and tiny extractor spring. one pin punches out of bolt if i remember correctly. the rifle i did was an early century m70. maadi def. uses standard akm parts!

ok now really, my debt is payed the darkside must let go!
4/2/2011 8:07:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Mine are kicked out at about 1 o'clock and about 10 feet. Then again, I am shooting a Saiga 308
4/3/2011 3:28:30 AM EDT
[#5]
My ejection patters depend on the gun.  I have one SBR that kicks them out about 12-15 feet to 3 o'clock.  Another flings them about 20 feet to my 4 o'clock.  One thing you may want to check with your gun is that the ejector is poking through its slot in the bolt without too much play.  I had a Yugo AK that had a little slop in its bolt travel.  What this did is made it where as the bolt came back the ejector could be in a different position hitting the base of the case in a slightly different spot each time.  The only problem with that was that occasionally it would only barely touch the rim causing weak ejection only a couple of feet to my right.  Other shots would send the empties 20 feet or so.
4/3/2011 5:01:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Is there another one inside the bolt assembly? I've never actually cracked that thing open.



You might try cleaning the bolt and extractor before you buy parts. Some times a little mainteance will work wonders.
4/3/2011 9:28:10 PM EDT
[#7]
My Lancaster Bulgy 74 ejects the casings at 3 o clock in unifrom pattern around 12 ft away.
4/3/2011 11:38:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Two o'clock for mine.  A good 15-20 feet.
4/4/2011 5:55:35 AM EDT
[#9]
My Pol-Manian/Rolish build ejects at 3 o'clock, 20 to 25 feet.

Very positive ejection.
4/4/2011 10:31:17 AM EDT
[#10]
I had the same problem with my Maadi except worse.  With a lot of post's and pictures to a forum trial and error, someone told me about a problem with some Maddi's and bulged receivers.  I was instructed to put the rifle in a fixed vise and squeeze little by little until I got most of the play out of the bolt sliding against the receiver. I know it sounds crazy, but several mentioned the same thing, so I wraped the receiver in a thin piece of leather glove and squeezed it. Got the slop out, and what do you know, went from jaming every other round to not a single jam. Call it what you want, but it worked. Look into it, it may have something to do with your problem.
4/4/2011 11:14:50 AM EDT
[#11]
Arsenal SGL-31: About 15 feet forward and to the right
TGI AMG-65: About 5 feet to the right and less forward than the SGL-31
WASR-10/63 UF: About the same as the AMD-65
4/4/2011 11:44:27 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I had the same problem with my Maadi except worse.  With a lot of post's and pictures to a forum trial and error, someone told me about a problem with some Maddi's and bulged receivers.  I was instructed to put the rifle in a fixed vise and squeeze little by little until I got most of the play out of the bolt sliding against the receiver. I know it sounds crazy, but several mentioned the same thing, so I wraped the receiver in a thin piece of leather glove and squeezed it. Got the slop out, and what do you know, went from jaming every other round to not a single jam. Call it what you want, but it worked. Look into it, it may have something to do with your problem.


What is the width of a receiver supposed to be? I can measure mine with a mic when I get home if someone else can measure theirs...


4/6/2011 10:08:30 AM EDT
[#13]
I don't have a steel ruller or a pair of calipers.
4/6/2011 12:56:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
What is the width of a receiver supposed to be? I can measure mine with a mic when I get home if someone else can measure theirs...




Put a straight edge on the left side of the receiver. If it bulges out where the ejector is located you'll know it.
4/6/2011 1:26:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Two o'clock for mine.  A good 15-20 feet.


About the same for my SAM-7...I always try to get the farthest to the right spot on the range...otherwise I get all kinds of   looks from non AK guys.  I guess they don't like the spent casings flying past them or hitting them every now and then.

4/6/2011 5:41:52 PM EDT
[#16]
my brass ejection trajectory mimics that of a satellite launch.
4/7/2011 11:53:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Mine all end up on the ground.  I think about 2 o'clock and 10-12 feet.  Being steel cased ammo, and I'm not picking up the empties, I'm not real observant.  Every one has cleared the receiver though.
4/7/2011 12:11:21 PM EDT
[#18]
my SA M7 SF shot one over a tree, nearly 20 feet up, have no idea how that happened
4/8/2011 11:50:32 AM EDT
[#19]
my TGI flings them 30 ft.

no joke.

Its funny as our 50 yard line is not covered, but the 100yd line is, so all my cases hit the top of the tin roof....the fudds love it.
4/8/2011 12:15:43 PM EDT
[#20]
2:30 about 20 YARDS.
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