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12/31/2010 12:18:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Glad you liked it. Be sure to spread the word to other AK users.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/1/2011 10:58:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By bobapunk:
What are the odds you can get a FSC47 to test?

Where in MO are you?


I'll do it if someone wants to lend me one, but I don't think I can spare that kind of money just to test it.

I'm in STL.
1/1/2011 11:12:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm curious in a test between a genuine "foreign" AK-74 brake and a Tapco, just to see what the differance is.

But awesome vid! Very fun to watch!  Tell your son he did a great job, good camera job, clear voicing of it.
1/2/2011 7:53:31 PM EDT
[#4]



Originally Posted By cubanchurchill:


Good video- but your killing me. Looks like I'll be spending some more money on a new brake...      


The no-name USA made one from Cope's Distributing is only $20.



 
I hate people who post pictures of their pistols with the slide locked back.

SS17
1/2/2011 8:06:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By ptmccain:
So, get this, some jerk posted a remark on YouTube trashing my son's rifle, which he acknowledged was a "cheapo"

Some people!



It's funny when people make comments about the WASR10. Pay them no mind. If it runs and can hit minute of man targets at 100yds. it's good. I love mine. I was thinking of getting a 74 type brake for it but your son's video has convinced me to get one. Very well done.
Sheepdogs on the watch. Love us or hate us, we are the first responders.

"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." -Wyatt Earp

All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.

PACK LaRue

1/2/2011 10:35:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NAM][Edited] [#6]
Originally Posted By ptmccain:
Originally Posted By NAM:
Fudd in the background? lol..


That was ME in the background, thank you very much. I was just watching carefully to know when I could commence firing, I had to stop while he was talking.



I noticed you watching the camera...lol.... figured it was a pissed off fudd wondering WTF was going on.

FYI....FUDD=Shotgun/deer rifle puritan that only shoots 3 rounds a year before deer season (yep.. I hit a target at 25 yards, good enough) and thinks that black rifles and AK's are "machine guns" and "you don't need dem for hunting the deers". Also known as "Who are you afraid of that you need that thar machine gun". Or "Those guns(sic) are only for killing fellers".

Isaiah 16:11 "Wherefore my bowels shall sound like an harp..."
tbk1: "We don't allow generalized bashing, except against the French."
Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
USAA sucks
1/9/2011 5:41:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Glad you enjoyed the vid.

Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/21/2011 7:32:09 AM EDT
[#8]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/21/2011 9:37:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Sweet video, really shows the difference!
1/21/2011 10:11:09 AM EDT
[#10]
Cool video

I heard lots people complained about the noise the 74 style breaks.  Perhaps the ‘noise level test’ between the 3 … next ?
1/22/2011 8:12:28 AM EDT
[#11]
I was there when the video was shot, and frankly, I didn't notice much of a difference in volume level. Of course, I had my passive hearing protection on and was blasting away with my M4, so....

Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/30/2011 8:31:56 AM EDT
[#12]
BTT
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/30/2011 1:58:00 PM EDT
[#13]
The EE is about to see a spike in slant breaks for sale.
1/30/2011 3:05:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By Cigolon:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Cool video

tell your son to tuck in that chicken wing


I went to a local range about a year ago and there was an older man there who saw me giving directions to a new shooter, telling her to 'tuck your wing'. he came over and explained how he was a drill instructor and how you should always leave your wing out to increase accuracy. We listened patiently, thanked him kindly, then ignored the advice.

just made me think of that. oddly enough, some people think it works better.


Shoot however feels more comfortable, that's all that matters. I tuck and lean forward on almost every centerfire rifle, but if I'm shooting a non-pistol gripped shotgun, I do the chicken wang thang. I've noticed that people tend to tuck when the recoil is manageable or non-existent, but if the recoil is a bit higher for them to control, then they open up the flaps.
1/30/2011 3:57:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Well said.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/30/2011 6:49:23 PM EDT
[#16]
My AK came with a slant brake.  It was OK.  Then I installed a J-TAC47 brake.  Much much better.  Looks like a AK74 style brake would have been a good choice as well.

Nicely done video!  Thanks for posting it.
1/30/2011 7:02:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Great vid, I am inthe market for an AK and was thinking about replaceing the MB with a 74 style if if will fit properly. Now I am convinced.
1/31/2011 12:55:44 AM EDT
[#18]
I had a 74 but had to switch cause of bullet deflection issues.  I shot bare for a long time, now have a slant and love it.  I dont notice anything different single shot, but when shooting fast, the slant is far superior to the bare barrel, as we see.  Cool vid, thank you.
1/31/2011 11:28:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Cool video. I tried something similar with my AK74 using no device, a bulgarian style flash hider, and the regular 74 brake. I couldn't tell the difference at all on a 74, but on a 47 it would be more noticeable.
If you are in the Huntington, WV area check out Herd Tactical. www.herdtactical.com 304-302-0509
1/31/2011 1:40:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Perhaps the difference in ammo?
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
1/31/2011 2:03:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By ptmccain:
Perhaps the difference in ammo?


It was done same day with the same stash of 7n6 ammo. The 74s just don't recoil like a 47 so they are easier to control. I'd like to see video of me shooting my 74 and a 47. I have video of me shooting my AR at a local match, but not my AKs.
If you are in the Huntington, WV area check out Herd Tactical. www.herdtactical.com 304-302-0509
1/31/2011 2:52:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Use to have the 74 brake. Did help with muzzle rise a great deal. But I switched to a slant brake, because it was a bit too muzzle heavy & I wanted more of a traditional AK47 look.
2/2/2011 7:28:42 AM EDT
[#23]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/2/2011 8:38:43 AM EDT
[#24]
Great video! Great job!! I saw it and it helped me make my decision. I bought Bulgarian 74 brake you use w/ the thread adapter and put it on my 10/63. I compared it at the range w/ the slant brake and got the same results as he did . Quite a difference between the two brakes. The groups w/ the 74 brake were surprisingly tighter too!
2/2/2011 8:39:47 AM EDT
[#25]
Great video! Great job!! I saw it and it helped me make my decision. I bought Bulgarian 74 brake you use w/ the thread adapter and put it on my 10/63. I compared it at the range w/ the slant brake and got the same results as he did . Quite a difference between the two brakes. The groups w/ the 74 brake were surprisingly tighter too!
2/2/2011 10:56:59 AM EDT
[#26]
Glad it helped.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/2/2011 6:06:13 PM EDT
[#27]
It would be cool to see the test done with a bunch of different brakes like the PWS systems and others
2/2/2011 6:48:12 PM EDT
[#28]
Go for it.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/2/2011 6:52:16 PM EDT
[#29]
I have nothing including threads on my ak now but thinking of changing that and getting a 74 brake. Nice to see it wont just be cosmetic.
2/5/2011 8:22:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Nope, it works, definitely.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/5/2011 3:15:01 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm just trying to decide on which 74 brake to get. Kvar's is nice but not chrome lined for the 7.62. The east German ones are nice but I would have to bore it out a bit and lose some chrome but the expansion chamber would still have it.
2/5/2011 7:37:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Suburban][Edited] [#32]
I don't have a youtube account, so I don't think I can leave comments.

The video is interesting, thanks.  I appreciate that it isn't 1/2 crap that should have been edited out.

I bought my WASR-10 just after the ban was lifted, so it had a plain unthreaded barrel and no bayo lugs.  I threaded the muzzle and put on a Tapco slant brake, which seemed to me to help a lot with the muzzle rise, and I thought it helped with the recoil too.  I installed a Blackjack buffer at the same time as the slant brake, so I'm kinda wondering what's going on.  Is the buffer helping more than people say, or is the slant brake actually helping with recoil?

I put a Tapco AK-74 type brake on my Tantal.  I'll have to give that a try on the WASR and do my own test, just for my own personal knowledge.  I guess I should try it with the buffer, and without the buffer back to back too.
2/6/2011 7:37:57 AM EDT
[#33]
You'll be surprised how much better the 74 compensator works than the slant break.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/7/2011 9:03:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Great video!  Great quality too.  Thanks for sharing.
2/7/2011 10:24:00 AM EDT
[#35]
the russians did a fabulous job designing that brake. its a shame tapco dont make them like the russian ones, which are going to be even more functional.
2/7/2011 10:46:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RABIDFOX50][Edited] [#36]
Given you used the Tapco 74 style brake, I wonder how the KVAR 74 style brake for the 47s would work. Same or better perhaps? Or is there no diff in their structure?
Sheepdogs on the watch. Love us or hate us, we are the first responders.

"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." -Wyatt Earp

All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.

PACK LaRue

2/7/2011 10:53:48 AM EDT
[#37]
Originally Posted By Suburban:
 Is the buffer helping more than people say, or is the slant brake actually helping with recoil?


If putting a buffer in the rifle reduced recoil, something is wrong with it.
Try a blind test: Have a friend remove and install the buffer without your knowledge. See if you can accurately tell whether the buffer is in place from the recoil.

2/7/2011 11:13:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By ptmccain:
You'll be surprised how much better the 74 compensator works than the slant break.


FWIW, I have an AK74 style brake on a Bushmaster upper.  I removed the last 1/2" of the 'brake, so that it was just a ported device, not 'brake' on the end.

It dramatically reduced the backblast and noise from the AR.

I don't have an unmodified brake to compare it to, but, I like it much better without the brake portion.  Muzzle climb is controlled, and I am no longer deafened if I shoot it without hearing protection while hunting.

TRG
Uncle Ruckus is my hero.

No, I didn't mean nuts as in some cool 'Charles Bronson is going to get revenge, no matter the cost!' sense. I mean in the 'you probably hold conversations with your own poo' sense. ~Tomislav
2/7/2011 11:25:03 AM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Given you used the Tapco 74 style brake, I wonder how the KVAR 74 style brake for the 47s would work. Same or better perhaps? Or is there no diff in their structure?



theres is a big difference.the tapco brake is an easy to machine break, that is not going to work as well as the real one. the real deal brake is much harder and more expensive to make. with a big expansion chamber, and vent holes. not to mention it requires the correct FSB to go with it
2/7/2011 3:47:07 PM EDT
[#40]
Hey OP. It's "brake", not "break".

It's a device designed intended to decelerate movement. You know, like brakes.

The rifle worked fine. It didn't break.
The “Three Stupid” Rule: “Do not go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things”
2/8/2011 9:45:05 PM EDT
[#41]
I am sure we all know what he meant, but ... thanks, I guess.

Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/16/2011 6:37:12 AM EDT
[#42]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/16/2011 7:23:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Great video! I'm not even an AK person at all! (just flipping through this board due to extreme boredom/procrastination)

Good job to your son.
2/16/2011 8:01:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Thanks, guy.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/17/2011 12:23:06 AM EDT
[#45]
Had the WASR out with the Tapco AK74-type brake this past weekend.  Back-to-back I couldn't tell much difference between the slant brake and the AK74 brake.  However, after 140 rounds with the AK74 brake, I wasn't lighly bruised and tenderized like I was last time after 3 mags with the slant brake.  So there's definitely a difference.
2/17/2011 6:43:17 PM EDT
[#46]
Yup, definitely a difference, a significant one when I shot them both.
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/20/2011 7:06:58 AM EDT
[#47]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
2/23/2011 3:16:43 PM EDT
[#48]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
3/5/2011 11:21:37 AM EDT
[#49]
Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum
3/5/2011 3:38:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 413x4nd3r][Edited] [#50]
FSC47 pronto!

I see a future in your reviewing muzzle brakes......

My FSC47 just arrived and I need to get it on my X39 Saiga, but first must cut the FSB and thread the barrel.

I have an SLR I can record video with at 1080 as well......will post without FSC47 and with FSC47 soon.

Stay tuned.

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