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2/3/2010 3:11:06 PM EDT
Can this be done?? Seems those UF are kind of flimsy. Is it hard to do?? It is a Polish AK-47

PackN
2/3/2010 3:46:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Its going to cost a lot and take some effort.

Best bet is to sell it, get a fixed stock and add a side folder
2/3/2010 4:30:06 PM EDT
[#2]
I have (at least) one of each and i think the UF is the sturdier of the two.

Will it survive butt stroking someone with it or using it to go into a prone position?  Maybe not but they are tougher than they look.

We take 'em off bad guys occasionally and even though you can tell the rifle's been thru hell (one of them was a 1958 manufacture) the UFs are in good shape.

In comparison, the stocks on the AKSUs we find are usually broken and held on with a nail or a metal pin of some sort.
2/3/2010 4:32:43 PM EDT
[#3]
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Can this be done?? Seems those UF are kind of flimsy. Is it hard to do?? It is a Polish AK-47

PackN


Is the project rifle one build on a stamped sheet metal receiver? Usually the term 'AK-47' refers to a rifle with a milled receiver. A Polish UF AK rifle with a stamped sheet metal receiver will be termed as an 'PMKMS'.
What kind of sidefolder stock do you want to use in the conversion project? Will it be a wire sidefolder such as what is available as Romanian or East German made, or an AKS74 stock that in triangluar in shape and has a locking latch at the left front of the receiver?
For any conversion, the rear UF block would have to be removed from the receiver by defeating the rivets. The receiver holes for the UF axle and rivets should be welded up to prepare the receiver for installaton of the replacement rear block. Installation of the rear block for the UF would require receiver modification, and the level of modificaton would depend upon the type of SF stock. If the AKS74 SF is installed, the latch parts (and front trunion modification) would have to be installed also.

2/3/2010 4:32:49 PM EDT
[#4]
The right way would be to replace the receiver and rear trunnion with the correct parts.

It's probably cheaper to sell the UF and buy the sidefolder.

BSW
2/3/2010 5:14:01 PM EDT
[#5]
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Can this be done?? Seems those UF are kind of flimsy. Is it hard to do?? It is a Polish AK-47

PackN


Is the project rifle one build on a stamped sheet metal receiver? Usually the term 'AK-47' refers to a rifle with a milled receiver. A Polish UF AK rifle with a stamped sheet metal receiver will be termed as an 'PMKMS'.
What kind of sidefolder stock do you want to use in the conversion project? Will it be a wire sidefolder such as what is available as Romanian or East German made, or an AKS74 stock that in triangluar in shape and has a locking latch at the left front of the receiver?
For any conversion, the rear UF block would have to be removed from the receiver by defeating the rivets. The receiver holes for the UF axle and rivets should be welded up to prepare the receiver for installaton of the replacement rear block. Installation of the rear block for the UF would require receiver modification, and the level of modificaton would depend upon the type of SF stock. If the AKS74 SF is installed, the latch parts (and front trunion modification) would have to be installed also.



Actually, the terms "AK" and "AKS" are more correctly referenced for a Kalashnikov with a milled receiver.  The first for the full buttstock version, the latter for one with an underfolding buttstock.
2/3/2010 7:09:20 PM EDT
[#6]
This Rifle is already built . I guess it will stay as an UF! I am new to this ! Many more questions will be asked as I try to learn about AK's

Thanks
PackN
2/4/2010 6:37:29 AM EDT
[#7]
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Can this be done?? Seems those UF are kind of flimsy. Is it hard to do?? It is a Polish AK-47

PackN


Is the project rifle one build on a stamped sheet metal receiver? Usually the term 'AK-47' refers to a rifle with a milled receiver. A Polish UF AK rifle with a stamped sheet metal receiver will be termed as an 'PMKMS'.
What kind of sidefolder stock do you want to use in the conversion project? Will it be a wire sidefolder such as what is available as Romanian or East German made, or an AKS74 stock that in triangluar in shape and has a locking latch at the left front of the receiver?
For any conversion, the rear UF block would have to be removed from the receiver by defeating the rivets. The receiver holes for the UF axle and rivets should be welded up to prepare the receiver for installaton of the replacement rear block. Installation of the rear block for the UF would require receiver modification, and the level of modificaton would depend upon the type of SF stock. If the AKS74 SF is installed, the latch parts (and front trunion modification) would have to be installed also.



Actually, the terms "AK" and "AKS" are more correctly referenced for a Kalashnikov with a milled receiver.  The first for the full buttstock version, the latter for one with an underfolding buttstock.


Not necessarily.  The AKS-47 did refer to the milled underfolder and the stamped receiver was referred to as the AKMS.  But when the side-folder was designed shortly after the advent of the AK-74 the same moniker returned.  This referred to the triangle side-folders as the AKS-74 and as most know the Krinkov (which was never an official name) was the AKS-74U.  The 'S' denotes the folding stock: representing 'Skladnoy' (which is Russian for 'folding').
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