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Posted: 6/13/2009 5:23:04 PM EDT
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I don't have a classic shedpard hook that actually looks like a shepard hook on my ak. The one I have coils around the safety selector lever. It isn't the replacement plate, but it isn't a classic shepard hook, and I cannot figure out how to get it back in. Any info?
Thanks, Monkey |
| Or the small 'hair pin' clips. Here's a link to the thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=119796 |
If this is what you have, it's really easy to install. Slip the small curved end under the hammer pin making sure it seats in the groove. Slip the wound coil over the end of the selector lever and push down to install the selector lever in its hole in the left side. Make sure that the wire is on top of the groove in the trigger pin when you push the selector lever in. I've never had one of these back off and let one of the pins loose.
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I just buy e-clips from the hardware store and dispense with the shephard's hook. E clips don't work well with the groove on the fcg pins. E clips are designed to work in a groove with flat sides that meet the floor at a 90 degree angle. As a result the Eclips will walk off the pin and sometimes break. Hair pin clips (or hitch pin clips for the trigger pin) work well. |
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I just buy e-clips from the hardware store and dispense with the shephard's hook. E clips don't work well with the groove on the fcg pins. E clips are designed to work in a groove with flat sides that meet the floor at a 90 degree angle. As a result the Eclips will walk off the pin and sometimes break. Hair pin clips (or hitch pin clips for the trigger pin) work well. ++1 Had this happen to me too with E clips. Don't use them. BSW |
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No problem so far with e-clips on my WASR, but I guess I'll look for hitch pins next time I'm at the hardware store. A friend built 17 kits using the e-clips a few years ago. I have one that must have close to 5,000 rounds on it already. Another friend used them in his Saiga 12 conversion, no problems there either. |
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If you don't pull your fire control parts (hammer, trigger & disconnector) then a e-clip as a one time set it and forget it will work OK.
However I do believe that they don't do well if you remove and replace the e-clips a couple of times. It is tough for many people to pull the e-clips and reset them without some specialized tools. I'm a big believer in the Hitch clip pins as they are easer to remove and replace over and over as needed without tools. (I shoot a lot of corrosive and pull out the interior parts to deep clean after shooting) Plates are the Ultimate solution for quick and easy in & out, but also cost most of the options available. My .02 cents / Your Mileage May Vary BIGGER_HAMMER 
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If you don't pull your fire control parts (hammer, trigger & disconnector) then a e-clip as a one time set it and forget it will work OK. However I do believe that they don't do well if you remove and replace the e-clips a couple of times. It is tough for many people to pull the e-clips and reset them without some specialized tools. I'm a big believer in the Hitch clip pins as they are easer to remove and replace over and over as needed without tools. (I shoot a lot of corrosive and pull out the interior parts to deep clean after shooting) Plates are the Ultimate solution for quick and easy in & out, but also cost most of the options available. My .02 cents / Your Mileage May Vary BIGGER_HAMMER Those hitch pins do honestly sound like the best idea, are you getting them at a hardware store? The e-clips have worked well for me, but they are a one-time deal. I put them on with small pliers and they aren't easily removable. |
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If you don't pull your fire control parts (hammer, trigger & disconnector) then a e-clip as a one time set it and forget it will work OK. However I do believe that they don't do well if you remove and replace the e-clips a couple of times. It is tough for many people to pull the e-clips and reset them without some specialized tools. I'm a big believer in the Hitch clip pins as they are easer to remove and replace over and over as needed without tools. (I shoot a lot of corrosive and pull out the interior parts to deep clean after shooting) Plates are the Ultimate solution for quick and easy in & out, but also cost most of the options available. My .02 cents / Your Mileage May Vary BIGGER_HAMMER Those hitch pins do honestly sound like the best idea, are you getting them at a hardware store? The e-clips have worked well for me, but they are a one-time deal. I put them on with small pliers and they aren't easily removable. The local Ace Hardware sells them. Take a pin with you and buy the size that fits the best. |
| I haven't used the one that wraps around the safety lever but that sure seems like a great idea. I had the hammer in my FCG snap clean in half on my Arsenal Bulgaria SLR-105 and had to take out the Shepherd's Crook to replace the hammer. I wish mine had been the one that the picture above represents. It would have been a helluva lot easier to get in and out. I'm still not convinced I have a tight fit in the one that I put back in. One of these days I'm going to get around to ordering a couple retaining plates and just be done with it. |
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