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Posted: 2/2/2009 5:50:21 PM EDT
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How long did it take you to do it? I talked w/a gunsmith about replacing one and he told me it would take about an hour. I'm not a gunsmith. I had CMMG replace the fire control group in an AR one time and it took him about 15 minutes at a gun show whiile carrying on a conversation with someone. I have trouble believing that this "gunsmith" has ever worked on an AK before.
Should it take that long? How long did it take you? UPDATE: For a couple of weeks, I looked all over southern Illinois for a gunsmith to work on an AK. Even though many up these had shops, none would touch the weapon. One asked, “What is an AK?” I took the AK down to the gunsmith for Rose Action Sports (www.roseactionsports.com) gunsmith, Steve Rose, down in Hopkinsville, KY. He put in the new fire control group with no problem and test fired while I waited. If someone needs an AKologist, which I’ve found impossible to find in southern Illinois, here is one that can get the job done...and it didn't take him 45 minutes, either! |
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Im a gunsmith and I work on at least one AK per week. To clarify most of the AK's I see are for trigger work, action work, refinishing, pistol grip conversion, stock change, sight replacement and recrowning/threading.
It shouldnt take someone more than 5 mins to change an AK fire control gruop. Most AK's dont break or fail unless theyre a US made Yugo, and romanian units. They usually are the ones with issues. |
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AK fire control is pretty quick and stone cold Soldier Proof easy.
toughest part is if you have to remove and then reset the damn "Shepards Crook" spring. Very simple tech, but a PITA unless you have the right tools. Soviet Manuals state that the AK Fire control group was NOT meant to be Soldier Serviced (removed or replaced) while in the field If you are using a plate retainer, or retaining clips on your pins, then is it uber quick and easy! (10 minutes or less!) Hope this helps! BIGGER_HAMMER
Edited - My Guess is that an Hour is the minimum time that the gun smith wants to bill. Pretty neat to work only 10-15 minutes and get paid for an hour eh? |
| Get a hemostat from somewhere and it makes it a 5 minute job. You can clamp on to the spring and pull it up over pins. You could do the same with needlenose pliers, but the hemostat is a lot thinner at the nose which is easier to get in between the spring and the receiver, and it clamps. I usually push the spring down with a screwdriver to get the hammer pin in first, then pull it up to get the trigger pin in. |
| Here are FCG instructions with pictures - http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ak47/pdf_files/AKDude_Trigger_Group.pdf |
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http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/fcgremoval4.htm
I use method 3, and a screwdriver to hold the wire down while inserting the trigger pin. And about half my fcg use the RedStarArms Campy plate. Just be sure you get the wire/clip INTO the notch near the pin head so the pin does not back out and muck up things. |
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Just yesterday I installed a Tapco G2 fcg for the first time in under 15 minutes. I was going slow and carefully following printed directions. Today I removed it to do some other work and then re-installed it. The removal and re-installation together probably took less than 5 minutes.
The G2 can be partially assembled outside the receiver and I'm using hitchpin clips to retain the FCG pins, which I'm guessing are a little easier to handle than the traditional retention system, but I don't see how an experienced gunsmith could take an hour. |
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. I just use needle nose pliers or