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Posted: 1/21/2009 12:03:31 PM EDT
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Link to a very interesting video of weapons manufacture in Pakistan.
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| you really think theres only one?Did you see the tools they were using?They were reloading ammo on a rock and I think the most advanced machine they had was a bench grinder.This is why foreign countries generally dont like us "lets just drop a bomb on hundreds of women and children"even though they will just set up shop somewhere else with little loss.Reelserious thats probably the most ignorant comment ive heard all day.100k troops?We have that many in Iraq right now fighting a shadow army. |
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we need freedom like that in this country sheesh we think we're free those bastards are really free +1,000,000  yeah, theyre free, theologically based government and voting rights being a foreign concept. sounds great :/ Voting is not a right in America. Please read the Constitution. Considering that congressional members are permitted to gerrymander districts to suit their re-election needs, how valuable is this voting privilege? Our government has become increasingly theological, just not their theology and not to the point of the ME countries (yet). The current administration will likely severely curtail our gun rights and further ruin the economy with the New New Deal, but at least we'll retard the process of turning into some sort of theocracy. |
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Darra, Pakistan.
Nothing new, they've been making guns there for 200 years, since the Brits were running India (Pakistan did not exist) and that was the tribal areas. The Tokarev he was making WAS new, they copy all the markings off of the original gun they cloned. There are Darra made Lee-Enfields with the correct stock band markings for King George VI's reign, and Lugers with DWM markings, and AK's with Chinese markings. All Darra made clones. Exact replicas (at least as much as they can be). |
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we need freedom like that in this country sheesh we think we're free those bastards are really free I learned a long time ago, while living in Europe, that: The "Land of the Free"... is ACROSS THE OCEAN. The focus of that sentence was "a long time ago" With bank nationalization, restrictions on firearms ownership, etc that no longer applies. |
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we need freedom like that in this country sheesh we think we're free those bastards are really free +1,000,000 yeah, theyre free, theologically based government and voting rights being a foreign concept. sounds great :/ When was the last time either of our voting rights really mattered, this country was bought and sold a long time ago my friend. We are not free |
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He was referring to the Nazis.
Did that asshole just call an Artillery Luger, "pure evil"?  I'm not an expert but I believe the Nazis never used the artillery luger as a matter of fact lugers were GENERALLY discontinued with only small amounts being made in ww2.I highly doubt that luger was of nazi manufacture. |
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He was referring to the Nazis.
Did that asshole just call an Artillery Luger, "pure evil"? I'm not an expert but I believe the Nazis never used the artillery luger as a matter of fact lugers were GENERALLY discontinued with only small amounts being made in ww2.I highly doubt that luger was of nazi manufacture. Yep. The artillery luger was a WWI era military model. Lugers with 4 inch barrels were made up until 42 or so in general production. Possibly Krieghoff or other 4 inch standard types were assembled after (not sure, limited if anything) that but no artillery pieces. P-38 pretty much replaced the luger by that time. In addition "occupation" pistols like the Radom (Poland) and Hi Power (FN) were common as well. Also remember that small claiber handguns were very common as well. |
| You might try the Luger forum - I think quite a while back there was a discussion by the SME's over there regarding use of the LP-08 (Artillery Luger") during WWII. Some were, indeed, captured but I don't believe the pistol was issued to any regular Army troops during that time. However, some reservist/homeguard folks did have them. |
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You might try the Luger forum - I think quite a while back there was a discussion by the SME's over there regarding use of the LP-08 (Artillery Luger") during WWII. Some were, indeed, captured but I don't believe the pistol was issued to any regular Army troops during that time. However, some reservist/homeguard folks did have them. I'm sure that they were on a limited basis. Plus, many WWI era Lugs came home with our guys in 45.' |
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you really think theres only one?Did you see the tools they were using?They were reloading ammo on a rock and I think the most advanced machine they had was a bench grinder.This is why foreign countries generally dont like us "lets just drop a bomb on hundreds of women and children"even though they will just set up shop somewhere else with little loss.Reelserious thats probably the most ignorant comment ive heard all day.100k troops?We have that many in Iraq right now fighting a shadow army. Oh shit you most be lost The DU is over there ––––>Other side of the internet |
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you really think theres only one?Did you see the tools they were using?They were reloading ammo on a rock and I think the most advanced machine they had was a bench grinder.This is why foreign countries generally dont like us "lets just drop a bomb on hundreds of women and children"even though they will just set up shop somewhere else with little loss.Reelserious thats probably the most ignorant comment ive heard all day.100k troops?We have that many in Iraq right now fighting a shadow army. Oh shit you most be lost The DU is over there ––––>Other side of the internet Actually, I agree with the OP and yet I'd never be caught dead with the DU. Does this compute? 
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you really think theres only one?Did you see the tools they were using?They were reloading ammo on a rock and I think the most advanced machine they had was a bench grinder.This is why foreign countries generally dont like us "lets just drop a bomb on hundreds of women and children"even though they will just set up shop somewhere else with little loss.Reelserious thats probably the most ignorant comment ive heard all day.100k troops?We have that many in Iraq right now fighting a shadow army. Oh shit you most be lost The DU is over there ––––>Other side of the internet That is pretty sad when gun owners are all expected to be republican/rightist, owning guns or enjoying guns has nothing to do with your political views.I think its pretty funny when I express concern for innocent women and children and I am fingered for being a lib. |
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I think we all care about women and children brother.. that's why we OWN weapons like these, right? Fighting men have laid their lives down for women and children.. caring for them does NOT make you a lib.. your ok with us.. apparently not the person who said hey lets drop a moab on dat dere market place . |
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Darra, Pakistan. Nothing new, they've been making guns there for 200 years, since the Brits were running India (Pakistan did not exist) and that was the tribal areas. The Tokarev he was making WAS new, they copy all the markings off of the original gun they cloned. There are Darra made Lee-Enfields with the correct stock band markings for King George VI's reign, and Lugers with DWM markings, and AK's with Chinese markings. All Darra made clones. Exact replicas (at least as much as they can be). I seriously don't believe that they make the entire firearm there, I would guess that they make repairs on ones found or aquired other ways. I would like to see how they would make a barrel with rifling. If they made the entire weapon there, why so many random types of firearms and not just one or two so that they could simplify the whole manufacturing process. I would give them great credit for what they do with what they have, but I don't think that the entire modern process of building all parts of firearms is within there capabilities. If it was that easy and cheap to build artillery lugers with crude tools and little education, Do you not think there would be hundreds or thousands built here? |
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Darra, like Yemen and such other places that manufacture firearms, utilize a great deal of existing parts and make replicas of other parts. They range from repairing weapons to literally manufacturing them from the ground up. Many may be exact (or close) in measurements, but quite inferior in quality.
It should also be noted that those folks in Pakistan got a boom in business thanks to the US/Coalition, and later UN, weapons buy-back programs. Locals could turn-in a weapon and receive $200. Any weapon. So, many people would buy the cheapest, crap-tastic weapon in Pakistan or Afghanistan and sell it at the programs. That allowed them to make more money and buy more junk, which they sold for... you guessed it - $200 each. All the while securing their good weapons somewhere else. Definately one of our many genius ideas that backfired in our face - like we thought they'd give up their good stuff while we were in-country. 
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