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Posted: 3/15/2008 10:35:33 AM EDT
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Hey all, I got a 107FR and the FSB is off and I need to have it fixed. I am kinda bummed as this is my first AK and I waited for this one to come out. I wanted an Arsenal to get a good quality factory gun. Well, I need to have them fix it and wondered if anyone has any input on an experience w/ sending a product back to them?? BTW, The gun runs great and is pretty accurate for an AK at 100yds (3-4" for 10 rounds ). I just wish it actually shot to its POA. T |
| I just picked mine up yesterday,and yes it has the cant.........I was so pissed........I think I'll just have a gunsmith do it so I know it gets done right........I would seriously think hard about getting another Arsenal as they seem to have zero quality control.Get someone else to fix it. |
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Okay I'm starting to get worried. I just ordered an Arsenal SLR107F and I'm worried that it will too have a cant to the front sight. Can you post a picture of it so I know what to look for when I go to pick up my gun in a week and a half? Other than the front cant are there other known problems with Arsenal? This is disappointing that a $800 US made gun can have so many problems...and I hear they were the best too! |
| Even if it isn't canted don't expect to shoot where you are aiming. There is no visible cant on my 107FR (my gunsmith/FFL didn't see any either), yet it shoots 2 feet left at 100 yards. I have not heard of a single 107FR that has shot to POA new from the factory. |
Dude that is exactly how I felt. I don't mind waiting for it to come back if its done right. I don't know if a local gunsmith would really know how to fix it or how much it would cost. Can you punch the pins out and straighten the FSB and then test fire it before you re-drill the holes? Or will the FSB move? T |
| You can fix it yourself the same way you fix a WASR with canted sights. However, this will more than likely void your warranty and Arsenal may charge you more if you need any additional work later. I had to send in a letter releasing them from future warranty claims to have them send me the newly designed FCG to fix trigger slap on a 105 I had. Interestingly I had two 105s. The one with the trigger slap had the older FCG in it and it took weeks to get Arsenal to send me the newer version after I returned the orignal FCG to them. |
Dangit, I did not think of that! I may just send it back now instead. I will call them on Monday and see. T |
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One thing is for sure, there will be a whole bunch of guys with first hand Arsenal repair service soon. I bought two new 107FR's and had to send them both back for the sight cant like many others. I will be sure to post the results of their service here. Arsenal, we are watching you. If you screw up these repairs you name will be sullied for a long time to come. If you fix them properly and quickly then the whole thing might blow over in a few months. |
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Mine had no visible cant that I could tell. The front sight was adjusted all the way to the left and the thing still shot about 6-8 inches left of center. I sent it back. Am at the six week point right now and waiting. This is my first experience with them, hope they make it right. |
Mike, Thanks man, this is what I was looking for. How long did they tell you it would be? And were they cool about it? BTW, that is exactly what my rifle is doing, except it has a tiny bit of cant right. T |
| Arsenal is not pinning the parts on. They come from Bulgaria like that. I have had 2 Bulgi kits one was perfect the other was not, Front Sight to the right, Rear Sight to the left. I call that one "Vodka Friday". I was probably built aroud the end of shift on Friday. |
| This is why i'm waiting a few moths to get the 107fr, i called them about this problem(fsb), its all over the forums, and they said they are aware of the prob and "SAID" it's been fixed. My 106fr shot 6" to the left so i sent it back to them and about a month later got it back and it was dead-on. I just dont want to have to sent two rifles back, this is unexcusable for the price they are charging and we are paying... |
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I was told by knowledgeable people that AK’s come from the factory with canted sights (some more than others) because they were designed as an assault rifle (spray lead) and not for marksmanship or why most AR owners have issues with the AK. I zero’d my AK and it drove me crazy that the front sight post was pushed all the way to one side so I took it back to the manufacturer (Global Trades / Armory USA) and it took them a few minutes to tweak (align) the fronts sight. They said if the FSB is off a little (you can sight it in by moving the from sight post to one side) it’s a simple fix that they have a jig for. If its way off (like it some of the AKs in this post are) its more complex and involves removing, repining or even replacing barrel or pinion parts. Bottom line – Manufactures foreign and domestic (less extent) don’t (can’t afford) to spend much time aligning sights or with Quality Control. My understanding is that Global Trades / Armory USA has changed hands – not quite sure what drove that but they produce arguably the nicest receivers available and they knew their AK’s. Hopefully Arsenal will step up to the plate and take care of their customers. |
I think it has more to do with the fact that they are made in mass quantities by third world peasants. |
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Well, I talked to Arsenal about my new 107FR and its canted FSB. They were very nice on the phone and said they knew they had a problem. Got a return number and address to send it back. She also said they were going to try and turn rifles back around in 1 week instead of the normal 30 days because of the problem. And provide a test target with the returns and new shipped rifles I FedEx'd mine back today. It seems like they will do a good job to fix it and make things right. Can't wait to get it back. It shot a nice 3" group at 100m when I had it, but it was 7" to the left. Keepin my fingers crossed..... T |
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