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Posted: 10/25/2005 7:52:34 AM EDT
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Got my optics choice for my AKS74 narrowed down to two optics... The PO3.5x21 "russian elcan" or the commercial variant of the 1p29, the UPO1-2.... Both seem to have their specific advantages and disadvantages, need your input on helping me decide. The PO3.5x21 seems to provide a wide field of view on a 3.5x magnification vs relatively high weight on a light weapon. Having shot with an Elcan on an M4 carbine I know how much I liked the "widescreen" view of such an optic. The 1P29/UPO1-2 is half the weight of the 3.5x21, magnifies 4x21 but has a narrower field of view. That and it has a more basic reticle which could obstruct the view on the target area. Considering that I use the weapon in tactical rifle matches in which I am moving fast and shooting from distances from 100 meters inwards what would be the nicest optic. Weight is a consideration but as most of these courses don't last longer than 5 minutes it's not the decisive argument on choosing. Nightvisionweb offers both at the same pricing. All input is welcomed.... Thanks Bas |
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Assuming you need enough tight precision to get a mag over a dot... Also consider the 1.5-4.5x16 and 2.5-4.5x24 variable scopes. I have concerns about the light gathering of the size 16 tube however. The PO 3.5 is a bit fussy about the short eye relief, but has very clear glass to compliment the mondo 60ft at 100 fov. Compare to the std 4x24 being 35ft. The inverted pointer reticle is great for snap shots, esp since recoil tends to lift it away from targets instead of over them, so they are easier the re-acquire. But the fat pointer stinks for fine accuracy. Being able to shoot with both eyes open for better overall awareness, seems to be a mixed function of mag power being lower/similar to the other eye's view, and wide fov so the brain has more than just a tiny spot to mix with the other eye's input. Your head will vary. Also consider the PK-AS, since the circle makes target acquisition Very Natural, and the small dot allows for good accuracy. ED- basic fov math for width seen at 100, multiply degree fov by 5.25 12deg x 5.25 = 63 (3.5x21) 8deg x 5.25 = 42 (2.5-5x24 at lowest) 6deg x 5.25 = 31.5 (common 4x24) Nevermind variation from advertised and seen... And while I seem to be working on a future sticky... note the exit pupils of the 3.5 = 6mm, 2.5 = 9.5mm and PK-AS = 16mm the avg eye has 7mm, but more means a better ability to see without the eye being in the 'exact spot' which sure helps when moving fast |
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I lean towards the PO3.5x21, for two reasons. The reticle lends itself for more accuracy on smaller targets (organisations tend to put small clays at 50 meters sometimes) and the wider FOF I think lends itself better for stages in which multiple targets are presented. Weight, quess I'll have to be at the range more with it which is no punishment by itself. The eyerelief of the UPO is rated at 35mm vs the 48mm of the PO3.5, both are closer to the sight than I am right now with the 2.5-5x24 POSP which I find more difficult eye relief wise. At the same price I think I will buy the PO3.5x21, I loved my Elcan on the AR15. Hoping the have the same joy out of it's russian counterpart on the 74 Thanks Bas |
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I have been delighted with my PO3.5, which rivals Leupold clarity. Since the weight is centered over the rec, it handles easily. Note the bottom of the scope tends to be RIGHT at the top edge of a dustcover where there are nubs hanging from what I suppose hold the glass inside. HBarski had to file his nub down a hair to mount, and a business card does not fit between my nub/cover. Good choice! |
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hmmmm, mine is not lit, so guessing... Mine is like the nightvweb pic, with decent bars like a Ger #1 reticle to frame quickly the target in the fine center hairs. Maybe one just lights the bars, and another lights the chevron'T' center? I have been told that the bars version is an RPK optic, and there is a 74 version with just fine crosshairs from the core T chevrons to the ends. I have only seen 3, each with the nvw pic reticle. Just make them give very specific answers 
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