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Posted: 3/7/2006 6:17:15 PM EDT
Has anyone heard of German plastic core training ammo? I got a box of various ammo today and there where about 10 stuk of training ammo.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:23:06 PM EDT
had a bunch and shot it. I got it in 1992 havent seen it since
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 12:12:16 PM EDT
This is not exactly "short range" or indoor range ammo. It was not used by the STASI for raids. It is not frangible. This ammunition was designed to be used out to 300 meters. The light weight projectile was designed to loose velocity quickly so that once it goes past it's intended useful range it will become less dangerous compared to regular ball ammo that will travel for miles. The plastic core is HARD and does not deform much. As a result it will do considerable damage to whatever it hits. I've fired this ammo through 10" diameter TREES at close range.

It is just as deadly as ball ammo and as such must be treated with as much respect. The official designation was "M-43 Ubung" which literally means "Practice". There are many stories out there about this ammo and what it really is, but it is nothing more than practice ammo for use where the target ranges have limited downrange danger areas. Nothing more. The East Germans made this load from the 1960's through 1990 in vast quantities. It IS corrosive primed and a blast to shoot due to the light recoil. Great in an AK but occasionally jams in an SKS.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 1:19:02 PM EDT
Aren't they also more effected by windage?
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 12:21:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/9/2006 8:06:22 AM EDT by osprey21]
They are 63gr projectiles, so yes, they would be more susceptible to crosswinds.

Link Posted: 3/9/2006 3:02:50 PM EDT
that's them.
Can you still get them anywhere?
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 4:03:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lowco:
that's them.
Can you still get them anywhere?



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=123&t=335895
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:06:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 4:04:32 PM EDT
Thanks
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 12:34:06 PM EDT
I'm not sure but isn't this plastic core ammo? I bought a crate of it last year.


Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:41:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AKaTom:
I'm not sure but isn't this plastic core ammo? I bought a crate of it last year.

www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/medium/white_tip_ammo.jpg
www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/medium/open_box.jpg



That is Czech made lead core, low velocity, short range training ammo.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 1:23:12 PM EDT
How do you guys keep up with all of this?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 1:59:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lowco:
How do you guys keep up with all of this?


Well.... I'm old.
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