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Posted: 8/8/2011 8:49:30 AM EDT
| hey i know this may sound stupid but i dont know to be honest, does the 922r go for just ak or stuff like the rpk and the psl too? |
PSL is exempt as long as it is configured as it originally was. Read the actual legislation and you'll see it is not listed as one of the 922r regulated guns (it is not all rifles!). That's why you don't find many US parts for the PSL (except those that are for the AK you could use if you convert it). The RPK is regulated by the 922r. 
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PSL is exempt as long as it is configured as it originally was. Read the actual legislation and you'll see it is not listed as one of the 922r regulated guns (it is not all rifles!). That's why you don't find many US parts for the PSL (except those that are for the AK you could use if you convert it). The RPK is regulated by the 922r. 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 states:
… 1. (a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes … I can't seem to find the link to the list 925(d)(3) is referring to, but I don't remember PSL being on it. They can be imported as intact rifles, just like Mosin Nagants, SMLEs, etc Bonus points to anyone who can link to that list. |
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PSL is exempt as long as it is configured as it originally was. Read the actual legislation and you'll see it is not listed as one of the 922r regulated guns (it is not all rifles!). That's why you don't find many US parts for the PSL (except those that are for the AK you could use if you convert it). The RPK is regulated by the 922r. 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 states:
… 1. (a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes … I can't seem to find the link to the list 925(d)(3) is referring to, but I don't remember PSL being on it. They can be imported as intact rifles, just like Mosin Nagants, SMLEs, etc Bonus points to anyone who can link to that list. To save you the headache of reading the actual legislation (it is also referenced here) you can just read what TAPCO has compiled for you on this topic. CLICK HERE You can see what they said about the SKS being exempt (as is the case with many of the PSLs especially since the receivers are mostly imported as well). Change that 'thumbhole' stock out for a pistol grip and you have fallen in the 922r trap. Yes, there are US made receivers (namely those made by Nodak for carbine variations of the PSL) but the majority of the receivers are imported. There are virtually no US parts for the PSL except those compatible with AKs (basically the fire control group, but even that has to be modified to fit/work). Perhaps in this build forum the moderators should post the entire legislation outlining the whole concept of building from imported parts kits with some QAs to help clarify (granted, that may only open up the legal flood gates of liability and therefore best not to even touch it with a 9.22m pole).
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The TAPCO page doesn't say anything specific about the PSL. Further, 922(r) et. al. mentions this:
27 C.F.R. § 478.39 BATFE Link
Further, an acceptably redesigned semiautomatic copy of nonsporting firearm must be limited to using less than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR § 478.39(c). Otherwise, it is considered to be assembled into a nonsporting configuration per the provisions of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) and is thus a violation of § 922(r). Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine; folding/telescoping stocks; separate pistol grips; and the ability to accept a bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights. After reading that, I don't see any reason that a PSL wouldn't need to meet 922(r) requirements. I can't find anything from the BATFE (or any other) website that says that a PSL is specifically exempt from 922(r) |
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The TAPCO page doesn't say anything specific about the PSL. Further, 922(r) et. al. mentions this: 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 BATFE Link
Further, an acceptably redesigned semiautomatic copy of nonsporting firearm must be limited to using less than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR § 478.39(c). Otherwise, it is considered to be assembled into a nonsporting configuration per the provisions of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) and is thus a violation of § 922(r). Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine; folding/telescoping stocks; separate pistol grips; and the ability to accept a bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights. After reading that, I don't see any reason that a PSL wouldn't need to meet 922(r) requirements. I can't find anything from the BATFE (or any other) website that says that a PSL is specifically exempt from 922(r) This AWB on AK types is getting old . |
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After reading that, I don't see any reason that a PSL wouldn't need to meet 922(r) requirements. I can't find anything from the BATFE (or any other) website that says that a PSL is specifically exempt from 922(r)
Title 18 USC 922(r) states: * notice this is the very beginning of the 922(r) legislation where it states which type of firearm it will regulate (r) It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun PROHIBITED FROM IMPORTATION under section 925 (d) (3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purpose... This clearly states without identifying by name (that is what 925 (d) does) which will and will not be regulated by Title 18 USC 922(r) (otherwise known as 922r). Even AKs (which are mentioned in 925 (d) ) can be imported as long as they are 'sporterized' (AKA neutered of bayonet lug, pistol grip and/or detachable muzzle device). From this short excerpt of the legislation you should be able to clearly see when 922r applies to imported rifles (ie SKS, AKs, PSLs etc.). It is in fact another layer of the AWB that has been virtually unopposed and if you look at it under that light you should be able to understand it better. Hopefully, my work is done here. I'm off to finish a neon green IWB holster (for a friend's wife!).
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Do you have a link to 925(d)(3)? I just can't find that particular section. What I have been able to find says that a rifle with a detachable muzzle device, bipod, or detachable magazine represents a non-sporting configuration. And a PSL would fall into that category.
But that's just what I've actually been able to find online, if you've got a link to 925(d) please post it. |
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Do you have a link to 925(d)(3)? I just can't find that particular section. What I have been able to find says that a rifle with a detachable muzzle device, bipod, or detachable magazine represents a non-sporting configuration. And a PSL would fall into that category. But that's just what I've actually been able to find online, if you've got a link to 925(d) please post it. It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day.
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Do you have a link to 925(d)(3)? I just can't find that particular section. What I have been able to find says that a rifle with a detachable muzzle device, bipod, or detachable magazine represents a non-sporting configuration. And a PSL would fall into that category. But that's just what I've actually been able to find online, if you've got a link to 925(d) please post it. It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day. Then please don't post legal advice for others without having references. Everything that I've found from the BATFE says that if your PSL kit has evil features (detachable muzzle device, bipod, detachable magazine, etc) then it is subject to 922r. If the rifle does not have these features, then it is not subject to 922r. Feel free to disprove me with appropriate BATFE/legal references, but until you do, you're giving people inaccurate legal advice and not offering to back it up for them. By all means, take a shower, go outside, make green holsters. No one is asking you to sit at the computer all day and play armchair lawyer. But please don't post inaccurate and unreferenced legal advice. 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 states: link
… (a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes …. Further, an acceptably redesigned semiautomatic copy of nonsporting firearm must be limited to using less than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR § 478.39(c). Otherwise, it is considered to be assembled into a nonsporting configuration per the provisions of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) and is thus a violation of § 922(r). As a result of a 1989 study by the U.S. Treasury Department regarding the importability of certain firearms, an import ban was placed on military-style firearms. This ban included not only military-type firearms, but also extended to firearms with certain features that were considered to be “nonsporting.” Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine; folding/telescoping stocks; separate pistol grips; and the ability to accept a bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights. |
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It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day.
Then please don't post legal advice for others without having references. Everything that I've found from the BATFE says that if your PSL kit has evil features (detachable muzzle device, bipod, detachable magazine, etc) then it is subject to 922r. If the rifle does not have these features, then it is not subject to 922r. Feel free to disprove me with appropriate BATFE/legal references, but until you do, you're giving people inaccurate legal advice and not offering to back it up for them. By all means, take a shower, go outside, make green holsters. No one is asking you to sit at the computer all day and play armchair lawyer. But please don't post inaccurate and unreferenced legal advice. Do us all a favor and go find 925 (d) of Title 18 USC. The very beginning of the legislation you are quoting states that firearms currently legal for importation (which the PSL is) are not regulated by Title 18 USC (AKA 922r). You want the list of those that are like I was asked when I made that comment, you will find it under Title 18 USC 925 (d). Will I go get it for you like a legal aide? No, you can do that on your own like many of us already have. Do you have any clue what you are talking about? No! Are you going to get help from those of us who do? Less likely after flaming us when we do try to help.
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Again as I said All Assult Rifles are subject to 922 no exceptions......You can translate to what suits you but the fact still remains you have to comply... You said "all guns no exception". This is in fact the first time you are saying "All Assult Rifles...no exceptions". The fact of the matter is, without clarification of what an assault weapon is (and 925 (d) isn't the definition of an assault weapon) that statement is as flawed as your first. As referenced above, there are certain firearms that are regulated by '922r' and there are exceptions. It isn't easy reading but it is all spelled out in the legislation. Speaking solely of PSLs, they are importable in their classic configuration and therefore exempt from 922r (sure we can argue the definition of an assualt rifle, but as others have done so well already it would be hard to prove the PSL, or SKS D aren't assault rifles). It is when, and only when you alter the configuration of the PSL (most commonly to be more like an AK) that it must comply with '922r'. The AWB sniff test applies when you are alterring one of the exceptions to 922r. If it starts looking more like something the AWB wouldn't allow then it is more likely it is banned from importation and therefore regulated by 922r. If it is a lateral move, maintaining much of the same configuration then it remains unregulated by 922r (ie changing the caliber of a standard PSL). All this is outlined in the same regulation everyone is quoting, go and read it all! I refuse to spoon feed it to impatient individuals. The ultimate fact is, you get tangled with a BATFE agent it will be you who will need to know the law, not some guy online in some forum.
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It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day.
Then please don't post legal advice for others without having references. Everything that I've found from the BATFE says that if your PSL kit has evil features (detachable muzzle device, bipod, detachable magazine, etc) then it is subject to 922r. If the rifle does not have these features, then it is not subject to 922r. Feel free to disprove me with appropriate BATFE/legal references, but until you do, you're giving people inaccurate legal advice and not offering to back it up for them. By all means, take a shower, go outside, make green holsters. No one is asking you to sit at the computer all day and play armchair lawyer. But please don't post inaccurate and unreferenced legal advice. Do us all a favor and go find 925 (d) of Title 18 USC. The very beginning of the legislation you are quoting states that firearms currently legal for importation (which the PSL is) are not regulated by Title 18 USC (AKA 922r). You want the list of those that are like I was asked when I made that comment, you will find it under Title 18 USC 925 (d). Will I go get it for you like a legal aide? No, you can do that on your own like many of us already have. I'm not asking you to be "my legal aide", I'm asking you not to post legal advice without references, and especially to not post incorrect legal advice. I doubt you've even read 925(d), because here it is, and it doesn't support your argument: Title 18 chapter 44 925 (d)
(d) The Attorney General shall authorize a firearm or ammunition to be imported or brought into the United States or any possession thereof if the firearm or ammunition–– (1) is being imported or brought in for scientific or research purposes, or is for use in connection with competition or training pursuant to chapter 401 of title 10; (2) is an unserviceable firearm, other than a machinegun as defined in section 5845(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (not readily restorable to firing condition), imported or brought in as a curio or museum piece; (3) is of a type that does not fall within the definition of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, excluding surplus military firearms, except in any case where the Attorney General has not authorized the importation of the firearm pursuant to this paragraph, it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled; or (4) was previously taken out of the United States or a possession by the person who is bringing in the firearm or ammunition. The Attorney General shall permit the conditional importation or bringing in of a firearm or ammunition for examination and testing in connection with the making of a determination as to whether the importation or bringing in of such firearm or ammunition will be allowed under this subsection. We've already established that the PSL does not meet the sporting requirements from paragraph 3. Further, it does meet the "surplus military firearms" definition from paragraph 3 either. And because of that, the PSL is subject to 922r. There you have it, just liike jdoming728 and I have said. And unless you can post something that proves us to be incorrect, you are providing incorrect legal advice to arfcommers. |
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It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day.
Then please don't post legal advice for others without having references. Everything that I've found from the BATFE says that if your PSL kit has evil features (detachable muzzle device, bipod, detachable magazine, etc) then it is subject to 922r. If the rifle does not have these features, then it is not subject to 922r. Feel free to disprove me with appropriate BATFE/legal references, but until you do, you're giving people inaccurate legal advice and not offering to back it up for them. By all means, take a shower, go outside, make green holsters. No one is asking you to sit at the computer all day and play armchair lawyer. But please don't post inaccurate and unreferenced legal advice. Do us all a favor and go find 925 (d) of Title 18 USC. The very beginning of the legislation you are quoting states that firearms currently legal for importation (which the PSL is) are not regulated by Title 18 USC (AKA 922r). You want the list of those that are like I was asked when I made that comment, you will find it under Title 18 USC 925 (d). Will I go get it for you like a legal aide? No, you can do that on your own like many of us already have. I'm not asking you to be "my legal aide", I'm asking you not to post legal advice without references, and especially to not post incorrect legal advice. I doubt you've even read 925(d), because here it is, and it doesn't support your argument: Title 18 chapter 44 925 (d)
(d) The Attorney General shall authorize a firearm or ammunition to be imported or brought into the United States or any possession thereof if the firearm or ammunition–– (1) is being imported or brought in for scientific or research purposes, or is for use in connection with competition or training pursuant to chapter 401 of title 10; (2) is an unserviceable firearm, other than a machinegun as defined in section 5845(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (not readily restorable to firing condition), imported or brought in as a curio or museum piece; (3) is of a type that does not fall within the definition of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, excluding surplus military firearms, except in any case where the Attorney General has not authorized the importation of the firearm pursuant to this paragraph, it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled; or (4) was previously taken out of the United States or a possession by the person who is bringing in the firearm or ammunition. The Attorney General shall permit the conditional importation or bringing in of a firearm or ammunition for examination and testing in connection with the making of a determination as to whether the importation or bringing in of such firearm or ammunition will be allowed under this subsection. We've already established that the PSL does not meet the sporting requirements from paragraph 3. Further, it does meet the "surplus military firearms" definition from paragraph 3 either. And because of that, the PSL is subject to 922r. There you have it, just liike jdoming728 and I have said. And unless you can post something that proves us to be incorrect, you are providing incorrect legal advice to arfcommers. How old are you, 14? Just like I said in the beginning, the PSL isn't regulated by it and Title 18 USC states it in the first sentence. You don't have a clue how law is written, obviously. So for that examples are given that help illustrate the fact. The majority (if not all) PSL receivers are imported from Romania (in addition to built PSL rifles) and that is because Title 18 USC doesn't apply to them. There are virtually no US made PSL parts, not because the PSL is so new on the scene, but because it is not regulated by Title 18 USC. This is all referencing the same, first sentence of the regulations. I understand how excited you might get truly believing that some how I'm wrong (and so is the entire industry along with me) but swallow your pride (and whatever you are smoking) and stop spewing misinformation about this legislation. Don't believe me, call the beloved BATFE ask your seasoned FFL. Anything but try to misinterpret legislation that clearly states at it's beginning that it doesn't apply to legally importable rifles. I'm sure you think that perhaps the PSLs imported are some how mentioned as being imported for the inspection and testing or for agencies allowed to import firearms that are otherwise banned (namely class 7 FFL and above) but that's not the case. The PSL as it was originally built (minus the bayonet lug, they cut it on all imported PSLs as well as the kits) is exempt from the Title 18 USC 922(r) regulations. Period, no questions asked. No misinterpretations necessary. I have resonated that fact from the beginning and I end my comments on this thread regarding it here. I will continue to argue the facts as many times as this comes up. When you are old enough, take a class or two or 23 on reading comprehension of legal writings and then you can argue with me all you want because we would be argueing things other than those clearly stated.
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It's there, I have read it and that's what I referenced when I made the comment about those identified for 922r. No, I don't have a link and since I have no question about it I don't care to find it for some one else (sorry, I'm just a pain I guess). It should be under the same title I have already given, you'll have to go to the Government website and pull it up and read it (the Government isn't guilty for spending much money on their website for legislations, not only are they hard to read, they are hard to find). Finished with the holster for now, going to take a shower and go outside and play! Have a nice day.
Then please don't post legal advice for others without having references. Everything that I've found from the BATFE says that if your PSL kit has evil features (detachable muzzle device, bipod, detachable magazine, etc) then it is subject to 922r. If the rifle does not have these features, then it is not subject to 922r. Feel free to disprove me with appropriate BATFE/legal references, but until you do, you're giving people inaccurate legal advice and not offering to back it up for them. By all means, take a shower, go outside, make green holsters. No one is asking you to sit at the computer all day and play armchair lawyer. But please don't post inaccurate and unreferenced legal advice. Do us all a favor and go find 925 (d) of Title 18 USC. The very beginning of the legislation you are quoting states that firearms currently legal for importation (which the PSL is) are not regulated by Title 18 USC (AKA 922r). You want the list of those that are like I was asked when I made that comment, you will find it under Title 18 USC 925 (d). Will I go get it for you like a legal aide? No, you can do that on your own like many of us already have. I'm not asking you to be "my legal aide", I'm asking you not to post legal advice without references, and especially to not post incorrect legal advice. I doubt you've even read 925(d), because here it is, and it doesn't support your argument: Title 18 chapter 44 925 (d)
(d) The Attorney General shall authorize a firearm or ammunition to be imported or brought into the United States or any possession thereof if the firearm or ammunition–– (1) is being imported or brought in for scientific or research purposes, or is for use in connection with competition or training pursuant to chapter 401 of title 10; (2) is an unserviceable firearm, other than a machinegun as defined in section 5845(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (not readily restorable to firing condition), imported or brought in as a curio or museum piece; (3) is of a type that does not fall within the definition of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, excluding surplus military firearms, except in any case where the Attorney General has not authorized the importation of the firearm pursuant to this paragraph, it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled; or (4) was previously taken out of the United States or a possession by the person who is bringing in the firearm or ammunition. The Attorney General shall permit the conditional importation or bringing in of a firearm or ammunition for examination and testing in connection with the making of a determination as to whether the importation or bringing in of such firearm or ammunition will be allowed under this subsection. We've already established that the PSL does not meet the sporting requirements from paragraph 3. Further, it does meet the "surplus military firearms" definition from paragraph 3 either. And because of that, the PSL is subject to 922r. There you have it, just liike jdoming728 and I have said. And unless you can post something that proves us to be incorrect, you are providing incorrect legal advice to arfcommers. How old are you, 14? Doesn't look like the list most of us have read that is connected with the 922r where it states which firearms are banned from importation. What that means is it isn't 925 (d) like many of us thought. But having read it I know it is there. Quoting out of context the legislation like you are and using your interpretation (not the actual facts) it is illegal to import PSL receivers and yet apart from those made by Nodak for AK variations of the PSL they are all imported from Romania. In your all knowing you should call the BATFE and report all PSLs out there and get your finders reward. You should probably report anyone who built one because there aren't enough US parts for a standard PSL for anyone to build one compliant with 922r. The fact is as stated in the first sentence of the legislation the PSL is not regulated by 922r simply because it is imported legally for the general population (not to for research or other indicated reasons). You can continue regurgitating misinformation like so many before you but it doesn't change the facts! Then post the facts, thats all I'm asking. |
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For the ultimate resource you are still going to have to use your abilities of reasoning but the current document that will not show you the PSL (AKA Romak-3) is The Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide 2005. It lists those not considered importable for the purpose of sporting (see page 167). Which we have already proven is the determination of whether or not Title 18 USC 922(r) even applies. While the mini PSL (honestly, I have no clue, but I'll guess it is the carbine variant many try to build using AK parts) and Romaks-1,2,4 are listed, the Romak-3 (which is the standard PSL we know) is not. Granted, this could all change (personally I don't know how often these publications come out) but until proven otherwise my position stands clear on the fact that the PSL as originally configured and legally imported is not regulated by the Title 18 USC 922(r). Feel free to argue away, but my case rests. Interpret it however you see fit. But these are the most current regulations as far as anyone has been able to provide.
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There it is! The list of rifles banned from import, and the PSL (Romak III) is not on it. Gun laws and the BATFE are confusing and often contradictory. Thanks for posting it! If anyone is looking for it in the future, its on page 167 (168 of the PDF) I already wrote AK_ telling him I hate him because after trying to find out what a mini PSL was (because it was on the list) I am planning on building one...once I finish my current 8 kits (5 Romanian AK, 1 Suomi M31, 1 KP44 and fix the trigger guard on my Yugo M70). Fact of the matter is, I need a new gun cabinet!
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There it is! The list of rifles banned from import, and the PSL (Romak III) is not on it. Gun laws and the BATFE are confusing and often contradictory. Thanks for posting it! If anyone is looking for it in the future, its on page 167 (168 of the PDF) I already wrote AK_ telling him I hate him because after trying to find out what a mini PSL was (because it was on the list) I am planning on building one...once I finish my current 8 kits (5 Romanian AK, 1 Suomi M31, 1 KP44 and fix the trigger guard on my Yugo M70). Fact of the matter is, I need a new gun cabinet! ha. I hear that. I just finished two AK kits (65 Romanian and an Egyptian) Opened my safe... no place to put them... There is absolutely no way I could fit another long gun in there 
Gonna have to get a bigger safe. Those mini PSL rifles are bad ass! I would love to have one. But man I don't know if I should do it. I still have 4 AK kits to build up. |
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