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1/23/2011 2:34:47 PM EDT
The skin on my right finger has recently become dry and scaly in spots, and I can't figure out what it is.

Today I started thinking maybe its the solvent from when I clean my guns, since it started about the time I got some bore-tech eliminator.

Anyone else have this problem?
1/23/2011 3:21:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Skin is the least of your problems.  Carbon solvent of any kind goes through unbroken skin and stays at the liver.  Use gloves to protect yourself.
1/23/2011 5:41:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Get a box of disposable rubber gloves

They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents

I get mine from Harbor Freight

1/23/2011 7:00:09 PM EDT
[#3]




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Get a box of disposable rubber gloves



They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents



I get mine from Harbor Freight





Hehe... DO NOT GET LATEX GLOVES.  Even Hoppes will dissolve Latex glove and the crud will end up on your hands and gun parts.



Get a pack of nitrile gloves.  They're stronger, tougher, and last long enough to clean as many rifles as you want in one sitting.  If you shop online, you can get a 100pack of medical grade nitrile gloves for around $8-$12/box from places like ULINE.com and others.

1/24/2011 2:33:37 PM EDT
[#4]
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Get a box of disposable rubber gloves

They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents

I get mine from Harbor Freight


Hehe... DO NOT GET LATEX GLOVES.  Even Hoppes will dissolve Latex glove and the crud will end up on your hands and gun parts.

Get a pack of nitrile gloves.  They're stronger, tougher, and last long enough to clean as many rifles as you want in one sitting.  If you shop online, you can get a 100pack of medical grade nitrile gloves for around $8-$12/box from places like ULINE.com and others.


I was going to say the same about Nitrile instead of Latex.

You can also find them in most Pharmacy and first aid sections in boxes of 50 or 100 for reasonable...

I also use non-toxic lube and cleaner...

1/24/2011 2:54:21 PM EDT
[#5]

Ballistol ... FTW.

1/24/2011 7:15:29 PM EDT
[#6]




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Get a box of disposable rubber gloves

They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents

I get mine from Harbor Freight

Hehe... DO NOT GET LATEX GLOVES. Even Hoppes will dissolve Latex glove and the crud will end up on your hands and gun parts.

Get a pack of nitrile gloves. They're stronger, tougher, and last long enough to clean as many rifles as you want in one sitting. If you shop online, you can get a 100pack of medical grade nitrile gloves for around $8-$12/box from places like ULINE.com and others.

I was going to say the same about Nitrile instead of Latex.

You can also find them in most Pharmacy and first aid sections in boxes of 50 or 100 for reasonable...

I also use non-toxic lube and cleaner...



REALLY????  Man, and I thought nitrile gloves were impervious to all the cleaning stuff out there.  I've used Hoppes, Breakfree CLP, Birchwood-Casey & Winchester "Gun Blast" in a spray can, brake cleaner, and two mroe brands I can't recall... they've all eaten thru the Latex gloves but not the Nitrile ones.  What eats up the Nitrile?

1/24/2011 8:01:40 PM EDT
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Get a box of disposable rubber gloves
They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents
I get mine from Harbor Freight
Hehe... DO NOT GET LATEX GLOVES. Even Hoppes will dissolve Latex glove and the crud will end up on your hands and gun parts.
Get a pack of nitrile gloves. They're stronger, tougher, and last long enough to clean as many rifles as you want in one sitting. If you shop online, you can get a 100pack of medical grade nitrile gloves for around $8-$12/box from places like ULINE.com and others.
I was going to say the same about Nitrile instead of Latex.
You can also find them in most Pharmacy and first aid sections in boxes of 50 or 100 for reasonable...
I also use non-toxic lube and cleaner...

REALLY????  Man, and I thought nitrile gloves were impervious to all the cleaning stuff out there.  I've used Hoppes, Breakfree CLP, Birchwood-Casey & Winchester "Gun Blast" in a spray can, brake cleaner, and two mroe brands I can't recall... they've all eaten thru the Latex gloves but not the Nitrile ones.  What eats up the Nitrile?


I was agreeing with you on using the Nitrile over Latex, not disagreeing...

1/24/2011 8:09:07 PM EDT
[#8]
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Get a box of disposable rubber gloves
They are cheap and effective in keeping your hands clean and more importantly away from dangerous solvents
I get mine from Harbor Freight
Hehe... DO NOT GET LATEX GLOVES. Even Hoppes will dissolve Latex glove and the crud will end up on your hands and gun parts.
Get a pack of nitrile gloves. They're stronger, tougher, and last long enough to clean as many rifles as you want in one sitting. If you shop online, you can get a 100pack of medical grade nitrile gloves for around $8-$12/box from places like ULINE.com and others.
I was going to say the same about Nitrile instead of Latex.
You can also find them in most Pharmacy and first aid sections in boxes of 50 or 100 for reasonable...
I also use non-toxic lube and cleaner...

REALLY????  Man, and I thought nitrile gloves were impervious to all the cleaning stuff out there.  I've used Hoppes, Breakfree CLP, Birchwood-Casey & Winchester "Gun Blast" in a spray can, brake cleaner, and two mroe brands I can't recall... they've all eaten thru the Latex gloves but not the Nitrile ones.  What eats up the Nitrile?


I think he might have meant the same thing as you said about Nitrile rather than saying the Nitrile were not good to use.  In other words he meant to say use the Nitrile instead of the Latex.


Also what Mil(thickness) do others seem to prefer in the nitrile gloves.  Is the 8 mil too thick to handle gun parts/cleaning with?  My only experience using them was cleaning deer this season.  My hunting partner had them so just gave me some a few times when field cleaning but not sure what thickness he used.
1/25/2011 4:59:01 AM EDT
[#9]
I get the thickest blue ones I can get.

to thin and I've had the gloves rip open.

Dawn Soap and hot water is becoming my fav gun solvent.
1/25/2011 12:14:49 PM EDT
[#10]
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The skin on my right finger has recently become dry and scaly in spots, and I can't figure out what it is.

Believe it or not, WD-40 will remedy that; also cure your arthritis too


J/K... get nitrile gloves.
1/26/2011 3:34:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Been using Bore Tech Eliminator for years and never had any problems.  No gloves worn while working with the chemical.  If you need more info on eliminator PM me.
1/26/2011 8:10:52 PM EDT
[#12]
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got a box of the blue Nitrile ones at the auto parts store. 5mil, 100ea, lightly powdered.
many of the mechanics use them too. also good when changing engine oil.....
1/27/2011 3:12:16 AM EDT
[#13]
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Been using Bore Tech Eliminator for years and never had any problems.  No gloves worn while working with the chemical.  If you need more info on eliminator PM me.


the chemicals are well kind of like smoking, years later is when you will see the effects they have had.
1/27/2011 12:58:56 PM EDT
[#14]
bore tech eliminator is supposed to be none toxic and safe, at least that's what i have read.
1/28/2011 8:41:34 AM EDT
[#15]
bore tech eliminator  may be non toxi, but what of the lead compounds left from firing.
1/28/2011 12:09:01 PM EDT
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The skin on my right finger has recently become dry and scaly in spots, and I can't figure out what it is.

Today I started thinking maybe its the solvent from when I clean my guns, since it started about the time I got some bore-tech eliminator.

Anyone else have this problem?


Breakfree CLP has that effect on me.
2/1/2011 9:15:39 AM EDT
[#17]
I use M-Pro7 Gun Cleaner on some of my guns.  It's billed as non-toxic, however it is essentially a highly concentrated soap.  As such, it can dry skin out pretty quickly.  The same goes for solvents like acetone, brake cleaner, and alcohol.  

Wear gloves when you can.

If you cannot or choose not to wear gloves, moisturize your hands afterwards with lotion like Vaseline Intensive Care.  


On a related note, some dish detergents absolutely destroy my hands.  Others, like Palmolive and Dawn, don't affect them.  So, it might not be gun solvents.
2/1/2011 10:33:20 AM EDT
[#18]
How do you know these chemicals stay in the body permenently? I have read that the body does a good job of purging them out. Just like when you quit smoaking with in 7 years your lungs are fully healed and back to normal.
2/2/2011 4:15:41 PM EDT
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How do you know these chemicals stay in the body permenently? I have read that the body does a good job of purging them out. Just like when you quit smoaking with in 7 years your lungs are fully healed and back to normal.


The effects of the chemicals are long term. Skin absorbs whatever is around it, so if its toxic solvent littered with carcinogenic carbon, its going to cause harm to the cells in your body via free radicals and increase your risk for cancer.
2/3/2011 12:26:09 AM EDT
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How do you know these chemicals stay in the body permanently? I have read that the body does a good job of purging them out. Just like when you quit smoking with in 7 years your lungs are fully healed and back to normal.


The effects of the chemicals are long term. Skin absorbs whatever is around it, so if its toxic solvent littered with carcinogenic carbon, its going to cause harm to the cells in your body via free radicals and increase your risk for cancer.


I could see that with long term exposure(using chemicals every day for years without PPE) but with occasional exposure, your body should be able to purge out those toxins and not store them permanently. People are exposed to toxis crap all the time and the body has ways of ridding itself of these toxins. When cancer forms it is because of frequent and consistant exposures and not from cleaning your gun once in a while and getting Shooters Choice on Hoppes on your hands. I could be wrong and I'm not a doctor but I asked this to mine and this is how he explained it to me.
2/3/2011 4:24:52 AM EDT
[#21]
The Liver can only process so much junk. think of it like a oil filter for your car.
eta, I guess it depends on how often you clean, I've been now to go months of doing 3 to 4 cleaning sessions a week.

Yes i will say odds are low, but we all react differently.
2/3/2011 4:30:38 AM EDT
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How do you know these chemicals stay in the body permanently? I have read that the body does a good job of purging them out. Just like when you quit smoking with in 7 years your lungs are fully healed and back to normal.


The effects of the chemicals are long term. Skin absorbs whatever is around it, so if its toxic solvent littered with carcinogenic carbon, its going to cause harm to the cells in your body via free radicals and increase your risk for cancer.


I could see that with long term exposure(using chemicals every day for years without PPE) but with occasional exposure, your body should be able to purge out those toxins and not store them permanently. People are exposed to toxis crap all the time and the body has ways of ridding itself of these toxins. When cancer forms it is because of frequent and consistant exposures and not from cleaning your gun once in a while and getting Shooters Choice on Hoppes on your hands. I could be wrong and I'm not a doctor but I asked this to mine and this is how he explained it to me.


He is correct, you've got far more to worry about smoking or even inhaling the crap that comes out of your firearm than you do handling the byproducts of firearm combustion and toxic solvent. Absorption through the skin is far slower than inhalation or ingestion. Like you said thats assuming the cleanings are once every so often, you washed your hands, and you didn't ingest any of that toxic solvent/lube/lead/carbon.

+1 on Ballistol and gloves

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