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7/22/2009 7:57:13 PM EDT
So yes, I stuck a patch and its a true bitch. Got the Otis cable hanging out the barrel..... Its just pathetic looking.

As for a dowel to knock it out, will .25 work? I know the Otis system uses a .25 brush but will a wooden dowel that size fit? Or do I need 1/8in?


Edit: well I tried pounding it out with no success. It is stuck in a major major way. Any ideas? Maybe a way to burn the patch out? It is right in the beginning of the barrel just after the chamber.

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7/22/2009 10:12:00 PM EDT
[#1]
No on the .250 dowel. The .223/5.56 bore diameter is roughly .219 on top of the lands. Try heating a piece of 1/8 wire red hot for an inch or so and burn the patch out with that. It may take a while. Don't beat on it and wedge it in any tighter. Does the Otis cable unscrew from the jag? If so, you could go in from the muzzle and remove it with a one piece cleaning rod. Are you sure the jag is the right size for the .223?
7/23/2009 5:36:36 AM EDT
[#2]
When I shoot muzzle loaders I use a patch to wipe out the bore between shots.  Every once in a while it'll get stuck in the bore.
In a muzzle loader, you have a closed breech.  There is no way to put a rod into the other end unless you are lucky enough to have a gun with a removable breech.  Even so, it's still a PITA.

The solution I use is to wet the patch.

I keep a 20 oz. bottle of water in my range bag for cleaning.  (Black powder is water soluble.)
If a patch gets stuck I simply pour 2 or 3 cafulls of water down the barrel.  In about 30 seconds the patch is soaked right through and it slides right out, slick as snot.

I don't know if this will work for you but it's worth thinking about.

Maybe instead of water you can try some Hoppes or Breakfree.  Not only will that soak the patch but the oil in the solvent will help lubricate the patch and (hopefully) make it slide out easier.

My fingers are crossed for you!  
7/23/2009 7:01:52 AM EDT
[#3]
my first thought would be to soak it with gun oil
7/23/2009 8:22:09 AM EDT
[#4]
Use real cleaning rod with a jag on the end.
7/23/2009 9:25:53 AM EDT
[#5]
The otis system does unscrew, so I'll give that a try... only problem is that would leave me with a stuck patch and nothing to pull on. But I can try jamming it from the muzzle side back out the chamber. We'll see how that goes.



This patch is so soaked with CLP I can't even describe it. It's lubed real well.



I'll try the wire idea. Thanks for the help, any help is still appreciated :D



Oh, and the issue was that the patch I used was apparently for a .50cal muzzle loader. That's what I get for trusting the guy I stayed with when he said "oh yea! I got plenty of patches". I'll definitely check next time :)



Everything besides the patch is designed for the .223/5.56mm, it is all the correct size. I have ran patches with this same system thru multiple times in the past.
7/23/2009 2:56:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Unscrew the Otis.  Insert a one-piece stainless steel rod from the muzzle end.  Tap gently.  The patch should fall out.
7/23/2009 3:49:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I guess firing a blank wouldn't be the safest way?
7/23/2009 3:54:28 PM EDT
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I guess firing a blank wouldn't be the safest way?






Probably not :) the only problem I'm seeing is unscrewing the Otis. Getting enough tourqe is hard cause its a slick nylon cable. Ill try it with pliers when I get a chance.



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EDIT: After taking some pliers to it, the cable is out. I've got to order a regular cleaning rod but that should handle the problem. Thanks for the help guys!


 
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