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Posted: 6/17/2009 1:22:02 PM EDT
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I just bought the otis cleaning kit that comes with a cable system and patches, not a rod.
I'm wondering if I should take it back or if this will be good. I can't remember the exact name of the kit cuz it's in my car and I'm too lazy to go get it. I plan to keep a bore snake in my bag, but for major cleanings I want something a bit better. Is there an advantage to the cable system, or should I have a Dewey rod? Searched Otis, but nothing came up on this topic. So, I hope this isn't too repetetive. Which I have a gut feeling that it is. 
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I just bought the otis cleaning kit that comes with a cable system and patches, not a rod. I'm wondering if I should take it back or if this will be good. I can't remember the exact name of the kit cuz it's in my car and I'm too lazy to go get it. I plan to keep a bore snake in my bag, but for major cleanings I want something a bit better. Is there an advantage to the cable system, or should I have a Dewey rod? Searched Otis, but nothing came up on this topic. So, I hope this isn't too repetetive. Which I have a gut feeling that it is.
I like the Otis kit a lot. I always keep one in my range bag. |
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please do a search on this..between this and the boresnake there are multiple posts...I like my Otis stuff, just watch your patch size...we don't need another thread on either... Um.....I did. I seached "OTIS" and only 3 posts came up, none of them were specific to this. I always try to search before I post. Thanks tho...I knew there had to be some on this. It seemed rather common. |
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Otis is all I use. The advantage is it insures you won't scratch your bore or crown (assuming you use it properly), and that you only clean from breach to muzzle.
ETA: you don't need the circular otis patches either, at least not for smaller diameter bores, I have learned exactly where to poke holes in standard 2 1/2" square patches for calibers ranging from .22 to .40. |
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Otis is all I use. The advantage is it insures you won't scratch your bore or crown (assuming you use it properly), and that you only clean from breach to muzzle. ETA: you don't need the circular otis patches either, at least not for smaller diameter bores, I have learned exactly where to poke holes in standard 2 1/2" square patches for calibers ranging from .22 to .40. I've learned to do the same Captains1911. I have 3x3 patches that I've learned where to poke holes in to clean anything from 22s - 45s. I just keep my Otis in my range bag. When I shoot here at home, I have to admit, I use my Dewey rod and workbench! 
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| Otis is all Ive used for many years..... I cut my own patches. Like already stated If you try to pull to big of a patch you will get it stuck. Simply twist your cable to unsrew it and then go get a cleaning rod and run down the barrel and tap it out. I learned whay size to cut my own. You will to. WarDawg |
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Is there an advantage to the cable system, or should I have a Dewey rod? If you're of the school of thought that the brush must only go from chamber to muzzle, then NO there is no real difference. A rod you would have an option to push the brush/patch through, people have started using their rod to pull brush/patches through (pulling it, it won't bow and possibly scrape the bore). The cable can be rolled up into a neat compact package, and NOT have to have sharp edges that a segmented rod that can do the same thing has. The cable, if a patch pulls free and is left in the bore, you'll need to get a rod or wood dowel to push it out. The otis system does NOT have a chamber brush (I think?), you use a technique with the patches to clean the chamber. Most people think you need to do a brush cleaning on the chamber, at least once in a while, so you may want to get a chamber brush and rod long enough to turn it. |
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Another thing to consider when making the OTIS your sole cleaning system-Case removal in the field.
In the event you're firing and experience a stuck case, the OTIS offers no way to clear the case of the chamber. A GI rod on the other hand, can be assembled and used to tap free the stuck case. |
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Another thing to consider when making the OTIS your sole cleaning system-Case removal in the field. In the event you're firing and experience a stuck case, the OTIS offers no way to clear the case of the chamber. A GI rod on the other hand, can be assembled and used to tap free the stuck case. Never tried it yet but they claim you can remove a stuck case. otis obstruction removal |
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Another thing to consider when making the OTIS your sole cleaning system-Case removal in the field. In the event you're firing and experience a stuck case, the OTIS offers no way to clear the case of the chamber. A GI rod on the other hand, can be assembled and used to tap free the stuck case. Never tried it yet but they claim you can remove a stuck case. otis obstruction removal Yea, I’d like to try that first hand. The stuck cases I’ve experienced did not come out as easy as in that video. You’ll notice what OTIS included in this kit designed for the Army…..sometimes the old ways are the best ways.
http://www.armedforces-int.com/categories/close-quarters-battle-kit/close-quarters-battle-kit.asp |
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I like the Otis multi caliber military kits. I love the fact that I can clean 5.56-.45 even 12 ga shotgun in a single compact kit. It took me a while to to get use to the cable system but now it's fast and easy. The military kits can be had on ebay on the the cheap. I do still carry a GI kit from time to time but unless I encounter a stuck case I will use the Otis.
Otis Kits On the Cheap |
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You’ll notice what OTIS included in this kit designed for the Army…..sometimes the old ways are the best ways. The heat of battle, noise, confusion, fear and then you have a FTE. A simple rod you drop down the barrel and give it a rap, somehow seems to make more sense to me. The account of the broken case (base torn out) in the middle of an ambush, the Delta Force CPT recounting the story, said they would zip tie an already assembled cleaning rod to the side of their M4's for FTE's, sounded like a good idea. Of course it didn't help with a broken case stuck in the chamber. |
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