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Posted: 4/1/2009 3:54:10 PM EDT
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USMC regs, once a day for 3 consecutive days after firing the weapon. The idea was the CLP would leach the carbon out of the weapon, so there was still cleaning to be done 24 hrs after re-oiling it the cleaning before.
Many have commented that the Marine Corps units or armories, too often take the white glove inspection mentality a little too far in cleaning the weapons and do more damage trying to get every bit of carbon out of the weapon than a little carbon left in the weapon would do. Honestly, clean it after shooting, until you really get the cleaning down you may want to go back the next day and see what you missed. Up to you if you want to spit shine the weapon, you do NOT have to remove every tiny bit of carbon. Inside the bolt carrier is where the carbon gets really baked on and built up, that has to be cleaned out. BUT, there are sealing surfaces in there, you do NOT want to scrape it out haphazardly, and gouge that area, it can affect the performance of the cycle. They do make scrapers, but use them carefully if you use them, DO NOT use something like a screwdriver to scrape the carbon out. If you don't shoot that often, a quick cleaning and re-lubing every few months will help prevent rust/corrosion. |
| I clean mine thoroughly after every range session. This includes taking the BCG apart, taking the extractor out and cleaning the claw, etc etc. I have found and air compressor to be a huge help, especially in getting the locking lug area behind the chamber clean. |
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"Once is enough, if you do it right" that's why I suggest, if you're NOT familiar with cleaning an AR (which the OP "appears" he is NOT), go back the next day or some later time and do another quick cleaning, you will find spots you missed or spots you didn't clean as well as you thought. After a couple of times and you get some experience, you should be a able to "do it right, the first time". Just a suggestion, but I don't think it can hurt to go back and do some extra to make sure you did it right when you're a beginner.
Wow, I've never seen that cartoon before, but it spot on exactly what I said is the criticism of the Marine Corps cleaning reg, and the Marines MAY have changed their policy as well, its been years since I had to clean an M16. The white glove inspection, really a "WHITE Q-TIP" was ridiculous, armorers would fail your cleaning and send you back to do more cleaning if they could find carbon on the Q-tip. Just forced Marines to attempt dumb things to get every last bit of carbon out, that would do more harm to the weapon than that a little bit of carbon left would ever do. The reasonable test to consider, is the rag or q-tip you clean with, if it has lots of carbon on it, i.e. jet black, you still need to keep cleaning, if the rag or q-tip is coming away wet with CLP a honey brown color and only a little bit of carbon, some specs or just a little darkening, it should be clean enough. More importantly, just view and touch the area, you can tell if its still has dirt and carbon on/in it by appearance and feel, keep cleaning until it appears/feels clean enough to you, as well you should be seeing the rags and q-tips are coming away less and less black and more honey brown clp color. |
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Wow, I've never seen that cartoon before...... If you haven't noticed, I'm a stickler for providing documentation. I wholeheartedly believe the readers of this site deserve the most accurate information possible. And if a person elects to respond to a post, they should be held to that standard. |
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I clean mine thoroughly after every range session. This includes taking the BCG apart, taking the extractor out and cleaning the claw, etc etc. I have found and air compressor to be a huge help, especially in getting the locking lug area behind the chamber clean. QFT |
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Wow, I've never seen that cartoon before...... If you haven't noticed, I'm a stickler for providing documentation. I wholeheartedly believe the readers of this site deserve the most accurate information possible. And if a person elects to respond to a post, they should be held to that standard. Once Again "thank you Quib". When you speak type everyone should take notice. |
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so most of you guys beleive if i send 3 rounds downrange and wind up packing it in for the day.. i need to do a full cleaning?
i guess what im getting at.. how many rounds shot do you guys feel requires a solid cleaning? (not my AR but a different weapon) i just fixed a problem on my Winchester 30/30 and took it out.. send about 15 rounds downrange to really get a good function test and check everything.. and then i oiled it down and put it away.. just curious on your opinions |
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The following comments are the opinions of a minimally-informed shooter who doesn't much like the task of cleaning.
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so most of you guys beleive if i send 3 rounds downrange and wind up packing it in for the day.. i need to do a full cleaning? Am I planning to shoot again in the next 2-3 days? If so, then I'd let it go, unless it's my home defense rifle. In that case, I would at least take it apart, wipe it down, and lubricate. i guess what im getting at.. how many rounds shot do you guys feel requires a solid cleaning?
I have, over the course of a week or so, fired 400 rounds or more, just adding lube occasionally. Again, this was not my home defense rifle. I think those shooting schools go through several hundred rounds a day, without a midday cleaning session. |
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I agree with this post. I usually clean after sending 10 rounds down range.
Personally, I clean regardless of number of rounds fired. Even if it was only ten rounds. That doesn’t mean I do not clean, that only means cleaning will be easier than say, a cleaning after 240 rounds. |
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I agree with this post. I usually clean after sending 10 rounds down range.
Personally, I clean regardless of number of rounds fired. Even if it was only ten rounds. That doesn’t mean I do not clean, that only means cleaning will be easier than say, a cleaning after 240 rounds. I clean if I fire only 1 round.If you go hunting and only fire one round don't you clean after going hunting?I know some people who don't clean at all.They make me sick. 
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I clean if I fire only 1 round.If you go hunting and only fire one round don't you clean after going hunting? I fire 8-10 rounds a week at woodchucks, out of my Savage 243. I clean it once a week, sometimes twice. I know some people who don't clean at all.They make me sick.
There is alot of room between cleaning after every round, and not cleaning at all. Quoted:
As often as you feel is necessary. We all have different standards. Those standards range from guys who never clean, to guys who clean after every session regardless of round count. |
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