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2/18/2009 8:05:39 PM EDT
Was hunting coyotes yesterday, after taking a shot I noticed that the cycling of the action seemed a bit sluggish. After I got back to the truck, I cycled the action a couple of times and it was definitely more sluggish than normal. Temps were in the high teens by time I left. I've been using Tetra Gun Grease (appears to be a white lithium type) and Breakfree CLP. Got home and let the gun warm up to room temp and action cycled just fine. Any thoughts or advice on a better cold weather lube? I'd hate to have more than one coyote come in and have a malfunction or failure to feed because of the lube being stiff or sticky in cold weather.
2/18/2009 8:44:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Use CLP and leave off with the grease.

If it's really cold get some LAW.

BSW
2/18/2009 8:58:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Use CLP and leave off with the grease.

If it's really cold get some LAW.

BSW


Never heard of LAW, what is it and where can I get it?

2/18/2009 10:31:06 PM EDT
[#3]
slip 2000
2/18/2009 11:05:58 PM EDT
[#4]
clp is good down to at least -20F.  As said above, dump the grease.
2/19/2009 2:31:09 AM EDT
[#5]
I agree with not using Tetra and sticking to CLP.

I tried Tetra in the summer time. Even at those operating temps, when mixed with firing residue, the Tetra turned to a thick grimy paste.

I can see where operating in the temps you were operating at, how the bolt would begin to feel sluggish. Oil will keep residue in suspension during operation.
2/19/2009 6:03:17 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Use CLP and leave off with the grease.

If it's really cold get some LAW.

BSW


Never heard of LAW, what is it and where can I get it?



LAW is the USGI arctic lubricant for small arms. This guy has it : http://www.sprucemtsurplus.com/grease-oil-sealant.html item #29 marked LSA but the picture is of a quart of LAW. Price $4.

Another possibity is to Aeroshell 'Fluid 18' is very close to the specs for the Sov rifle lube. Origiinal thread where we were talking about it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=53&t=104342

As it turns out, googling aeroshell fluid 18 turns up spec sheets that state that Fluid 18 is 'for use in the lubrication and corrosion protection of small arms and automatic weapons...' and also sources to buy this product. The place I found by searching had it at $25 per gallon, which is a sight cheaper than most gun lubes that I've seen.

Spec sheets: http://www.petroleumlogistics.co.nz/productsheets.aspx
Source: http://www.shellaviationstore.com/or... how=asp_menu

Then again, I think if you just lube with CLP you'll be fine.

BSW
2/19/2009 11:12:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Quib and others,

Thanks for your replies. I degreased BCG and upper w/ brake cleaner and lubed with CLP as suggested.

Cold front moving thru the area today, if the wind dies down tonight, I may gives the 'yotes another try tomorrow.

Thanks again guys.

phatjohn
2/19/2009 6:26:39 PM EDT
[#8]
During WWII the Army Air Corps had to deal with Browning fifties exposed to forty-below winds.  If we knew what they used in that alien environment, we might use it on our ARs in   very cold weather.
2/20/2009 11:11:34 AM EDT
[#9]
I would use Slip 2000 Gun Lube or Slip 2000 Extreme Weapons Lubricant they are both good down to roughly -70 degrees farenheit.
2/20/2009 7:26:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I agree with not using Tetra and sticking to CLP.

I tried Tetra in the summer time. Even at those operating temps, when mixed with firing residue, the Tetra turned to a thick grimy paste.

I can see where operating in the temps you were operating at, how the bolt would begin to feel sluggish. Oil will keep residue in suspension during operation.[/quoteI

I also agree on avoiding Tetragun. After some time in the field with it...hot or cold...it gums up. I tested it in 130 degree heat in Las Vegas during the summer it gets into a grimy black paste like goo. I ve heard nothing but good things with Slip 2000 and Weaponshield. Breakfree CLP works ok too hot or cold. In heat you ll need to add more of it as it tends to burn off in extreme heat.
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