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Posted: 5/18/2008 9:42:00 AM EDT
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Who uses this? I just noticed that the local gun shop has recently filled a shelf with it. Is it any good? Is it better than other lubricants? Thanks. |
Probably the most straight to the point,short and solid advice a person could get on the subject. Avoid the Militec and save a few bucks in the process. +1 on the Break Free and TW-25B.Solid performers with a long time proven track record. |
When I tried it on a few different M16s, and a couple of SAWs it didn't seem to make any difference at all. Now the TW-25B I tried was impressive in how much it reduced the amount of carbon fouling that built up on the gas mechanisms of both types of firearms. |
| I've been selectively using Militec for 10 years on my bolt and hand guns with great success. I've had one 4 oz bottle this entire time. Those that don't like it might be using it like CLP. You don't dump it on and IMO it's best used only on higher friction metal surfaces. If you only have an AR, CLP is all you need. It worked fine for me in the desert! |
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I've been using Militec-1 exclusively on my AR15 bolt and bolt carrier since 2006. I've had great luck with it. I don't use the heating method described in the application instructions. I simply clean the bolt and bolt carrier completely. Then I use the Militec on the bolt and bolt carrier. I wipe off the excess and wipe the bolt carrier down with a clean cloth or paper towel which leaves a thin film. That's it. After matches, the bolt + bc still has the film of Militec on it and my bolt is very easy to clean. What I noticed that is significantly different between CLP and Militec is that fouling doesn't mix with the Militec like it does with CLP. Thus, it doesn't get gritty or gummed up in the bolt / bc or in the upper. That's my experience with the stuff and I will continue to use it over CLP in my AR bolts. |
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I find it funny that people like Miltec. Welll actually its not so funny. We get several guns a month that "malfunction" regularly at the shop. Miltec is one of the lubes that simply..................................to put it nicely...........SUCK! The sad part is the Maryland State Police tell its Troopers to use it.  If a troopers gun ever malfunctions in the line of duty I hope the officer/or family sues that snake oil of a company out of business.I say keep using it so we can charge for detail stripping and relubing with proper lube, CLP. It keeps the register moving in the slow enonomy. |
To be fair, that was for corrosion resistence not it's lubing ability. It's not a horrible lube. It just completely fails to live up to it's claims for everything else. |
| I dunno. Maybe my needs just aren't as rigorous as most, but I have a CZ 100 that pretty much has gone wherever I go for the past four years. It lives in a leather holster (Oh, the shame), and when it's not IWB, it's in my briefcase. Some days I leave the whole kit out in my car here in humid South Florida. The only lube I've ever used on it has been Miltec, and it's never shown a hint of rust or corrosion. Unless the Czech's made it our of some new kind of impervium, that pretty much speaks to me about using Miltec as a rust preventative. |
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i got several free bottles of that people were throwing out after reviews here. i have used it for awhile more or less just to use it up since it was free. i have had ZERO problems with it over the last 2 years. lubricates just fine. not so much for rust/corrosion protection but seems to lube every bit as good as clp. |
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Whatever works. I just can't stand the fan boys that come in and rant about how it's a great lube, and wasn't meant to be a rust preventative, and wasn't meant to stop buildup or be used for cleaning. "It's a great lube and nothing more!" Somehow they ignore the tons of bullshit advertising that Militec-1 puts out in their brochures, and on their website. How once you use it you don't need to use a solvent or CLP to clean anymore. That it prevents rust 2 times better than CLP, and that it prevents rust for 2 years. That it prevents carbon fouling from building up. Yet the only test they ever show at all is that stupid one with the spinning rod that Chlorox does great on. That is the only test that I've ever seen Militec-1 give any information on. They don't even state salt cabinet tests to back up their bs claims of rust prevention. |
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I belong to a fairly large club and at least a couple of times a year somebody (sometimes selling,sometimes just a believer) comes through with what they believe is the only oil product a gun owner should be using because of what they have read or tested themselves . The common ground is that for some reason they know "the truth" and the rest of us are stupid uninformed fools. Truth be told the only times in my 30 years of shooting I have ever seen a problem with firearms corrosion , cleaning or lubrication it had nothing to do with the failure of the product being used but was the direct result of the operator of that firearm going against standard usage and common reasoning. Shooting corrosive ammo without reasonable or any cleaning,shooting black powder without proper cleaning and other silly actions such as duck hunting near salt water and not cleaning the shotty. Any time a shooter has taken a course of action remotely resembling normal care with whatever product they had at hand the result has been very satisfactory . What is better? I don't know as anything I have used including sewing machine oil worked ok for me. Since I got into AR's I have on recommendation used BF CLP. The convenience of a clean,lube ,protect product in one bottle works fine for me. I buy it in the 16oz bottle to refill my small bottles and at that size the cost is reasonable enough I don't go looking for some home brew mix to save $16 every three years. I just don't believe this is the huge issue (product brand) lots of people try to make of it. Use whatever works for you |
I had corrosion in the bore of my USP. From condensation. I cleaned it out and left the bore wet with Militec-1. And still had some light rust. I even once had rust on the bottom of the barrel and recoil spring, and that was very wet. And that was after using it exlcusively for months, with lots of rounds to give it the heat and friction needed to bond. I've placed it on M9s, M16A2s, M16A4s, M60E2, and M240Bs. It did nothing to reduce the fouling. Didn't even come close to their claims. Nor did it do a damn thing to actually clean. No better than plain Hoppes #9, or any other oil not meant for cleaning. Nor did it work dry like they claim. Nor did it reduce the number of stoppages like they claim. Every weapons worked pretty much the same as it did with CLP. Either they did, or in the case of about half the SAWs, they didn't. The only real difference was trying to run something dry like they claim can be done. That didn't work out so well. So, yeah based on my personal experiences I will continue to say it's nothing but liquid shit in a bottle. |
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