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9/1/2007 9:53:18 AM EDT
I took a photo of my Glock's bore and the stuff indicated by the green arrow is the same stuff found in my other long gun bores. I cannot get rid of it using normal scrubbing with bronze brushes and BF CLP.

What is this gunk and what is the easiest way to remove it? The brown looking material is just the finish of the Glock barrel. You can see the same wear marks outside of the barrel where the slide rubs against the barrel wall.

9/1/2007 10:09:06 AM EDT
[#1]
Hmmmm..........lead deposits maybe? I’m not sure. But, you could try some BF Bore Cleaning Foam and see how good of a job it does at cleaning up that barrel. BF CLP does nothing for metallic deposits.
9/1/2007 11:05:35 AM EDT
[#2]
There was a lot of carbon deposits on the crown of the Glock barrel which came off with some scrubbing and BF CLP. I too suspect it is metallic fouling but its almost impervious to brushing.

Where can I find the BF Foaming Bore cleaner locally? I found it online but I'll have to buy it along with a bunch of other stuff to justify the shipping.
9/1/2007 12:57:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I buy mine at Sportsmans Warehouse.
9/1/2007 1:11:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Do you suppose it could be from shooting steel jacketed bullets? If so, how would I get rid of steel fouling?
9/1/2007 1:19:50 PM EDT
[#5]
I’m at a loss there. The only ammo I have that’s not copper FMJ is some 1938 Turk 8mm that I use in my 98k. And that is nickel jacketed but cleans up just the same as copper FMJ.
9/1/2007 1:23:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I have shot Brown Bear steel jacketed copper washed 9mm Luger through this bore. That's the only steel jacketed ammo that the Glock has ate. Everything else has been copper jacketed.
9/1/2007 1:32:05 PM EDT
[#7]
I would just try and track down some BF FBC and see how it works. Do you have a Sportsman Warehouse near you? Or any of the larger sporting goods stores?

www.break-free.com/?location=/global/dealer.asp
9/1/2007 1:51:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Oxidized lead is white.

Use some JB bore paste. BTW that looks like an aftermarket barrel.
9/1/2007 1:55:56 PM EDT
[#9]
you could always try the Homemade electronic bore cleaner
9/1/2007 2:08:14 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Oxidized lead is white.

Use some JB bore paste. BTW that looks like an aftermarket barrel.


That is a factory Glock barrel (with matching serial).
9/2/2007 3:25:38 PM EDT
[#11]
I scrubbed it using Barne's CR-10 and I didn't see one speck of blue come out of the bore.
I previously used brake cleaner, BF CLP, and lots of scrubbing with a bronze brush. Carbon shouldn't be this hard to remove, and lead is soft enough to start coming apart when scraped or brushed.

What else could it be?
9/2/2007 3:26:37 PM EDT
[#12]
Krum<borat
9/3/2007 1:28:51 PM EDT
[#13]
I even tried hydrogen peroxide to see if it would react with the lead (no dice).
9/3/2007 5:42:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Try BF Foaming Bore Cleaner before troubling yourself further. Should clean it up.
9/13/2007 2:22:30 AM EDT
[#15]
Any possibility that the discoloration your seeing if either surface wear in the barrel or bronze/brass being deposited from your cleaning brush. As another poster stated CLP does next to nothing for stubborn metal deposits. Honestly (at the risk of being burned at the stake) I am not a big CLP fan. It's great to throw in a range bag or use in the field. But the product was designed to clean, lubricate, and protect. Granted it does all three. But no one particularly well. I would try some Blue Wonder, Hoppe's # 9 or Flitz.

Also the ammo you were refering to was steel cased, not jacketed. Steel cartridge cases would have little to nothing to do with barrel fouling. A steel jacketed bullet would destroy your barrel's rifling. The reason they use lead, copper, and brass almost exclusively is because those materials are softer than your barrel and will not damage it. This is the same reason a brass/bronze brush will deposit itself all over you GLOCK's hard tennifer coated barrel. Same reason that the shell deflector on an AR-15 gets brass colored after a couple hundred rounds.


Hope that helps.
9/13/2007 3:01:42 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
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Also the ammo you were refering to was steel cased, not jacketed. Steel cartridge cases would have little to nothing to do with barrel fouling. A steel jacketed bullet would destroy your barrel's rifling. \


Wrong.
9/13/2007 4:53:37 AM EDT
[#17]
I so hate to be a smartass . . . but, didn't you know Glock has been putting a camo finish INSIDE their barrels, for years?!?


Seriously, tho . . . have you tried scraping it with anything? You know . . . toward the end of the barrel - where you can get to it easily?

I've never seen anything like that. Hmmm . . . curious, indeed.
9/13/2007 8:03:40 AM EDT
[#18]
Looks light the metal is etched..  Use anything harsh in their lately?
9/13/2007 3:08:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Not to sound sloppy or callous, but don't you think you may be turning molehills into moutains about that discoloration? I mean, look at the size of the rifling in that picture and then look how far the discoloration protrudes in relation to it (it doesn't, that's my point). How much effect can that possibly have?

Somebody once said to never look at your own bore with a bore light, because you'll lose faith in that weapon. Just clean it, shoot it, and donna' worry about it.$0.02
9/13/2007 4:44:17 PM EDT
[#20]
It looks to me like you stil have a lot of copper on the lands, at least from the way the color appears in your image.

The lighter colored areas to where the arrows point look like either scratches, etching, or lead.  Hard to tell.

But, I agree with what has been said.  Try a foaming bore cleaner--they work!
9/17/2007 10:22:34 AM EDT
[#21]
metroplex, which caliber is the pistol chambered in and what ammunition have you been using?
9/17/2007 11:19:10 AM EDT
[#22]
It's a 9mm Luger Glock 17 with the original factory barrel.
So far it has shot:
Winchester 115 gr FMJ
Winchester 115 gr JHP
Winchester 124 gr JHP
Winchester 147 gr JHP
Brown Bear 115 gr FMJ (Steel cased AND steel jacketed)
Wolf 115 gr FMJ (Steel cased, copper jacketed)

9/17/2007 5:39:52 PM EDT
[#23]
+1
On the JB Bore Compound and Kroil.
Used it on some surplus rifles with black and rusted bores, it worked great. They came out clean and shiny. You can get it from Brownells.
9/18/2007 8:59:48 AM EDT
[#24]
metroplex, I would try the JB bore cleaner and see if it works. If not, it almost looks like the steel jacketed ammo may have etched the inside of the barrel. If that is the case, you may have to replace the barrel. Hope it works out for you.
10/2/2007 6:28:47 AM EDT
[#25]
I ordered some Break Free Bore Cleaning Foam and the Break Free bore paste. I think it might be hardened carbon deposits, but we'll see.
10/2/2007 8:11:57 AM EDT
[#26]
Carbon should of just came off.

If you think it is Carbon, soak barrel in a closed jar full of hopes no. 9 for a week.
10/2/2007 9:07:34 AM EDT
[#27]
I have seen the same stuff in my other barrels (16" or longer) so it'd be hard to soak in a jar of Hoppes. I did a LOT of rapid firing with this Glock barrel and I've read that it might be remotely possible that its hardened carbon. I agree that regular carbon would have just brushed right off.
10/2/2007 11:35:48 AM EDT
[#28]
For carbon I've had great results using Butches Bore Shine and a new bronze brush on my M1a.

Soaking helps lift some of the stuff.

If you have JB bore paste or Rem Clean, both will remove hard carbon thru mechincal action in short order.
10/5/2007 1:41:11 PM EDT
[#29]
I scrubbed the Glock barrel with Break Free bore paste and a lot of the gunk did come off (appeared dark/greenish). The Break Free foaming bore cleaner did nothing, just like Brake Kleen, Kroil, and serious brushing and scrubbing.
10/7/2007 4:44:56 PM EDT
[#30]
got an after pic?
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