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9/29/2005 12:29:19 PM EDT
Anybody have suggestions on how to get the barrel lugs where bolt lockup occurs and especially the area behing the lugs clean??

I've used everything from Q-tips, toothpicks to trying to twist the chamber brush through the area. Still can't get it spotless although I've never has a malfuntion in that area.  The lugs are easy, it's that area behing them that's the problem.

thanks!
9/29/2005 1:26:20 PM EDT
[#1]
I just use a standard AR-15 chamber brush, but some guys like to use these things.

Cleaning Stars
9/29/2005 2:46:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks Triple-D!

Those look they will work!!
9/30/2005 12:46:21 PM EDT
[#3]
I honestly don't know of anyone who has used the "Stars" but they look awfully gimmicky. They result is just one more thing to buy and I figure if you needed them, Uncle Sam would issue them. Not a flame here, just an opinion from someone who's gone down Gimmick Road but now knows better.

CLP and the standard issue chamber brush seem to get the job done.
9/30/2005 1:20:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Standard AR Chamber brush to clean and a worn chamber brush to use with a patch wrapped around it for the final clean, just like my M1A and M-1 Garand.

Everything else is just a way to seperate you cash from your wallet. you want you chamber clean but don't be anal about it.
9/30/2005 11:38:56 PM EDT
[#5]
use a hemostat (paramedics have extras) with a broken off Q-tip. you'll pull unbelievable shit out from behind that extension!
10/2/2005 4:28:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Using the chamber brush gets the job done for me. I then use a dull curved dental pick and two clean patches to kinda mop the lug area till it's clean.
10/2/2005 8:23:42 PM EDT
[#7]
i have used the chamber stars and they work great! i always run the chamber brush and the stars pick up everything else


i got mine here from gandrtactical.com located in the industry forum


link to discussion about the stars
10/3/2005 3:59:53 AM EDT
[#8]
I use the Starst not to clean, but to mop up all the loose crud that the USGI chamber brush makes.  Q-tips do work, but the stars make the job easier.
10/3/2005 4:31:44 AM EDT
[#9]
10/3/2005 7:08:31 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

i got mine here from gandrtactical.com located in the industry forum





Yep.  That's a better place to get them.  Support the site!
10/5/2005 2:29:52 AM EDT
[#11]
the stars are great, but that can get expensive over the life of a rifle. one hemostat: $2, one gazillion cheapo Q-tips: $1.50. it's economics folks! spend the extra on gas!
10/5/2005 8:23:57 AM EDT
[#12]
Get in there with an AR chamber brush.  Then pick up the rest with baby wipes.  Anything left, you can try M PRo 7 Bore gel.  It seems to do well.  Put it on, let it stand then wipe off.  I am not into working up a sweat when it comes to cleaning and maintainence, so the path of least resistance is good for me.
10/8/2005 7:52:12 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
one gazillion cheapo Q-tips: $1.50.



+1 on the q-tips.
10/15/2005 9:52:18 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
i have used the chamber stars and they work great! i always run the chamber brush and the stars pick up everything else


i got mine here from gandrtactical.com located in the industry forum


link to discussion about the stars



+1

Sure they are gimmicky, but dammit they work.
The chamber brush knocks the crap loose, but then you gotta get the crap out. Either the hard, time consuming, tedious way, or with the stars.

If I don't have the stars, I'll use a cotton ball soaked with Hoppes on the end of tweezers in a pinch.
10/15/2005 10:14:01 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Using the chamber brush gets the job done for me. I then use a dull curved dental pick and two clean patches to kinda mop the lug area till it's clean.



The dental pick is a good idea, if you get a metal one you can scrape the gunk out.
10/15/2005 11:34:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Come on, some of you guys blaze hundreds of dollars worth of ammo every time you go to the range and 50 cents for a star is too much to clean one of the most stressed areas of your rifle?  I don't get it.  Yeah, there's a lot of gimmicky stuff marketed to us but I don't mind spending a few cents to keep my guns in good shape.
10/16/2005 6:24:58 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Come on, some of you guys blaze hundreds of dollars worth of ammo every time you go to the range and 50 cents for a star is too much to clean one of the most stressed areas of your rifle?  I don't get it.  Yeah, there's a lot of gimmicky stuff marketed to us but I don't mind spending a few cents to keep my guns in good shape.




Agree, but if I spend 60 seconds longer to clean the chamber area with two 1 cent patches, then thats 50 cents more that I can spend on 5.56 ammo than if I did it in 30 seconds with the chamber star. Not knocking your logic, just giving another point of view.
10/16/2005 8:48:08 AM EDT
[#18]
better yet t, I can realize that the chamber recess doesn't need to be pristine for the rifle to function and just use a chamber brush as is done by thousands of Soldiers, Marines, sailors, and airmen the world round. Ranks up there with the extra long pipe cleaners for gas tube cleaning.
10/16/2005 11:44:01 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
...Ranks up there with the extra long pipe cleaners for gas tube cleaning.



Like the ones I used to issue out of my armory every day?
10/16/2005 11:49:45 AM EDT
[#20]
about 2' long?

police armory or .mil?
10/17/2005 6:29:24 AM EDT
[#21]
How about pointing the upper towards the floor and spraying a little carb and choke cleaner in the lockup chamber? The gunk will rinse out through the barrel and then follow it up with whatever you use to clean your bore.
10/17/2005 11:14:58 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
better yet t, I can realize that the chamber recess doesn't need to be pristine for the rifle to function and just use a chamber brush as is done by thousands of Soldiers, Marines, sailors, and airmen the world round. Ranks up there with the extra long pipe cleaners for gas tube cleaning.



Except everytime I've had to turn my weapon in, it was inspected, often multiple times to make sure that area was spotless.
Sailors with an M16?  When did that start happening.  When I switched to the Guard I've been on ranges where we had to teach people how to shoot an M16 because they were prior Navy and had never touched an M16 before.
10/17/2005 11:38:47 AM EDT
[#23]
. <------ my point





<---unicorn1
10/21/2005 2:58:20 PM EDT
[#24]
I forgot forgot to look back at my post.  Good info for an anal ex medic.  Hemostats were also good as roach clips, but I don't do that anymore.
10/26/2005 1:33:09 PM EDT
[#25]
I got the chamber stars last week and used them the other night but honestly I was not that impressed with their cleaning ability. They were able to get the CLP in there to mop around but they did not clean that effectively because their effective surface area was only on the tips. It honestly takes like 4-5 of them to get your chamber clean versus using a patch and wiping around in there. They are good for getting your cleaner in there effectively, just not REMOVING the cleaner/gunk/dirt. It would be easier if they were perfectly round and able to just be squeezed in there, then rotated. You'd have more surface area that way.

Just speaking from my own experience.

- rem
10/26/2005 2:31:04 PM EDT
[#26]
1.  Dunk 2 to 3 cleaning patches in solvent.
2.  Insert patches behind chamber lugs.
3.  Stir briskly with plastic cleaning pick.
4.  Remove patches.

It doesn't need to be spotless.
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