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Posted: 11/23/2004 5:47:59 PM EDT
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I tried the degreaser, gun lube, and carbon cutter. The carbon cutter doesn't seem to do anything to my Vepr's gas piston carbon crud, but it does smell like oranges. The degreaser smells like Windex and did a great job degreasing some parts that I cold-blued. The gun lube smells very much like sewing machine oil but seemed to have some EP agents and decent lubrication properties - it made the rails very slippery and slick on the Vepr. As for anti-dust attraction, I didn't see anything of that sort. The rifle attracted dust just like it normally does. I haven't done any corrosion testing but I do have a sample of FP-10 on hand to compare it with.  According to Slip 2000's marketing, their sample of FP-10 didn't seem to protect the metal cylinder and that's pretty much what I saw when I first tested the packet of FP-10 I noticed CLP didn't like being soaked for 5 hours in the salt water bath either... I also have some epsom salt to use (contains MgSO4) and that might spice things up! |
You were using the carbon cutter right? I noticed the same thing... it did absolutely jack to the carbon on my AK's gas piston cup. The carbon is similar to the carbon on the tail end of my AR15's bolt, except the gas piston is chromed steel so any black object is readily visible. It wasn't coming off. Brasso worked a LOT faster and better. but FWIW, I was told not to bother with the carbon because it will break off eventually as needed. Meaning its not going to interfere with the operation of the rifle. I'll try to do the corrosion test comparison between FP-10, Slip2k CLP, and BreakFree CLP (as the reference). |
actually this says "Gas Piston Parts and choke tube cleaner". Yeah i know its not a problem i just figured it was a good test. FWIW i think that carbon is a pretty non-reactive substance so i doubt anything other than elbow grease will affect it. |
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Just thought you might like to see this. Found this and many more like it on another BB called The High Road BB Slip 2000 is a great lubricant but the Carbon Cutter is awesome. I am a skeptical person by nature. When I was "molested" by the Slip 2000 folks at the Infantry Conference and they began extolling the wonders of their product I thought "here we go again." Part of the pitch was how the Carbon Cutter "ate" carbon and they showed me a clean bolt. I had just returned from a fairly intense carbine course the night before and had not had time to clean my rifle before reporting to work. I told them I had a bolt that had about 1200 rounds on it and they could show me the miracles of their product by cleaning it. Much to my surprise, they accepted. After about a 15 minute soak in the Carbon Cutter and a couple of wipes with a paper towel, my bolt looked brand new, as in no sign of carbon. None. Needless to say, I was (and continue to be) sold. Not only did they clean my bolt but they used it for the rest of the week as a demonstration piece. As a testimony to what a great group of people they are, they were kind enough to provide me and some co-workers with a healthy supply of their products. I have no interest in SLip 2000 other than the fact that I believe in the product line. Try their products out. I do not think you will be disappointed. Incidentally, my unit's M-4's are currently "marinading" in Slip 2000 in preparation for our upcoming deployment. I can not give it any better endorsement. Capt. US Army Ft. Benning, GA |
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There's no carbon on the AR-15 bolt that requires scraping. Clean the extractor lip and you're about ready to go. I agree regarding the perfume... anything too strong and it makes me sick. I prefer a neutral but limited odor. Militec-1 has that Moly/EP smell which isn't bad, and BreakFree CLP has no odor. |
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For the AK pistons, Brasso + a towel or napkin + elbow grease will remove all of the carbon. I'd imagine it to be the same for the rear of the AR-15 bolt. Brasso is available at all hardware stores. Make sure you DO NOT use Brasso on aluminum. The ammonia will react with uncoated aluminum surfaces. |
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