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Posted: 2/4/2003 10:05:31 PM EDT
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Do you have any information/feed back on the TW25-B High tech oil sold under the Kleen Bore label? Is this the MC-2500 that Mil-comm sells? Or should I be using the TW25-B grease? Any information would be of great help. TIA Raymond |
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Blankwaffe, The Kleenbore stuff is the same as the MC-2500 from what I understand. I have only had dealings direct with Mil-Comm. The oil seems to work just fine,but has the disadvantages of an oil like drawing and holding dust,sand,lint etc. I really Like the grease because I can apply it directly in a slightly heavy film on high pressure areas like the cam pin and Bolt lugs etc. and it stays there instead of running. The Grease can also be reduced to an E.P. using 91% Isopropyl alcohol and sprayed on for large area coverage and allows for penetration of the tightest nooks and crannys. The biggest operational advantage of the grese is that it can be applied to a level that feels almost dry to the touch and it still lubricates and protects better than anything we have tried,and the stuff is tenacious about not coming off. Give the folks at Mil-Comm a holler and ask for their application guide for your weapon system(Directions are Mil-Spec instruction type documents) and try the small syringe. If nothing else pick their brain a bit about your particular application and needs. Gordon Furlong and his staff are really good people. Hope this helps. S-28 P.S. I have no connection to Mil-Comm and gain nothing from babbling about their stuff like this. |
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Thanks for the information S-28. I contacted Mil-comm yesterday and talked with them for a bit. Your right they are nice folks,and the Kleen Bore TW25B high tech oil is the MC-2500. They said the MC-2500 was superior to say BreakFree in lubrication,and to use it on areas that you cant get to with the grease,like trigger pins,springs etc..Also that TW25-B and the MC-2500 are of the basic same formula just one is oil form.So they said to use the grease in the high stress areas and follow up with the MC-2500 in the field if needed. I also ordered a tube and a syringe of the TW25 B.They did not mention an application guide,but they are sending some application brushes. What did you think of the MC-2500 oil as far as corrosion protection and lubrication? Does it do a good job in your corrosion tests? Also what do you use to prep the metal before the initial application or for routine maintenance? Mil-comm recommended the MC-25 cleaner but also said Hoppe's No.9 would work,followed by a rub down with isopropyl alcohol before application of the TW25-B or the MC-2500. Mil-comm also spoke very highly of MPC's FP-10.They said its a great clp oil as we all know. Sorry for all the questions,but I think your opinion as a consumer will be more straight foward than that of the manufacturer of a product. Thanks for the help. Raymond |
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Ray, Call the good folks back and ask for an application guide,and instructions on mixing the E.P. It flows,and penetrates better than the oil. As for protection against corrosion,I can't help you.Yet. If it works the same as the grease,it should be outstanding and heads above the others. Yet I hesitate to say simply because I havn't put the oil to the same test. Spring is coming,and I might just add it to another T&E for my own info concerning "new" vs. "Old" Breakfree. Suffice to say it will involve a naked steel length of mild flat stock,several lubes and whatever happens with our weather here in the swamp. For prep,I strip any and all oils,and lubes leaving only the naked steel and finish before treating with the Mil-Comm using the sonic tank or other degreaser.Alcohol will do. Hope this helps. Gonna be busy for the next couple of days. Keep safe! S-28 |
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Thanks for the information S-28. I got the TW-25B grease today.I Lubed up my M15A2 and Beretta's,will see what happens. By the way,I noticed that when I started to use the grease with the syringe that most of what I was getting was a clear liquid at first.I checked the 1.5oz. tube and it appears that it had seperated as well only giving a clear oil liquid at first.But finally did start to get the white grease after a bit of shaking. Does this stuff need to be shaken before use? Man thats hard to do with a full syringe,shake that is. Raymond |
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